The BBC Interview: Jane Asher
Despite claiming that her acting career has
been 'patchy', Jane Asher has been prominent on stage and screen
since playing Lewis Carroll's Alice as a child. Later she starred
alongside Michael Caine in Alfie, and Jeremy Irons in Brideshead
Revisited among many other roles. She is associated with the
'swinging' 60s, which is more to do with her relationship with the
young Paul McCartney than anything else. She now says, 'I was never
the dolly-bird type. I didn't particularly like going to discotheques
and sitting up till 4am in a haze of cigarette smoke.' More recently,
Jane has written cookery books, presented television programmes and
worked on behalf of many charities including Children In Need and The
National Autistic Society. Jane, who is married to cartoonist Gerald
Scarfe and has three children, presents her new series Good Living on
BBC-1, in which she 'promises to take the stress out of Christmas.'
Q:I saw a photo of you in a chocolate dress.
Was it uncomfortable and could you only stay in it for a short time
for fear of melting? Alison, Plymouth
Jane Asher:That was for a picture advertising
chocolate digestives - and it's probably got more coverage than any
other picture I've done. It's not that the picture was overtly sexy,
it wasn't chocolate draped over my body, it was done over a skirt.
But it was uncomfortable. Holding one position for a long time is
always tough, I got very cramped and under the hot lights the
chocolate did melt. It had to be topped up and eventually the smell
was awful. I remember that I had to go to some smart do that evening
and all they had in the studio was one basin with cold water so I had
to try to rinse it all off. For the rest of the evening I could smell
the chocolate. But the photograph looked amazingly good and
sophisticated!
Q:Where did your interest and outstanding skill
with cakes originate from? Joanne Powell, New Zealand
JA: It was a childhood hobby. I learned basic
cookery from my mom, taught myself cake techniques and then got fed
up with my own cakes not looking as good as the ones in the shops. I
think my showbiz side must have come out, the enjoyment of
entertaining, because the cakes got increasingly wild and funny until
many years later when a friend suggested I put them all into a book.
That became a bestseller and eventually cake-making stopped being a
hobby and became a business. That was helpful when my children were
young and I didn't want to be acting onstage away from home. But
having cakes as a business certainly changes things for me - I don't
now sit at home doing a cake for the fun of it anymore. But it's an
extremely happy and pleasureable business to run because people are
generally buying cakes for celebrations. We made Prince Charles'
birthday cake, for instance - we're always very tactful about our VIP
clients but I'm sure he won't mind now it's over. It was the cake for
the party at Highgrove, so it was a large one.
Q: What is the strangest cake your company has
made?
JA: We've made so many at the shop it's difficult
to say. We once created a birthday cake for a lady's party which was
a model of her in the form of a naked marble statue. We make a lot of
saucy cakes but I try to ensure that it's tastefully, humourously
saucy rather than anything else.
Q: How did you get into presenting and what has
been the highlight of your TV career? Anam, London
JA: I suppose I got into it via the books, really.
Having done lifestyle books - horrible word - and being an actress, I
suppose it made sense to bring the two together. I think that's what
happened. The highlight is difficult. I enjoy Good Living, which is
coming up soon - though that's not why I'm saying that! The Christmas
one is always good, always busy with food and decorations and that's
the most fun to do. I enjoy the crafts on the show enormously, too,
when we have experts in showing how to make things. You watch them
thinking you'll go home and do the things yourself, which is fun.
Some I have done myself later on, though I don't think one should
ever expect that anyone would do everything.
What do you want the audience of Good Living to
gain from watching?
JA: The show is really designed to give people new
ideas for the home, particularly during this festive season. It's
just about sharing some tips for having fun.
You are very involved in charity work. What do
you bring to charities and do you feel that it's the responsibility
of people in the public eye to participate in social
issues?
JA: No, famous people shouldn't be obliged to take
part in charity. Personally, I feel I can contribute - I can give
time and help gain publicity for the causes I'm associated
with.
Your cake shop has a website but do you
personally use the Internet much?
Oh yes, you bet. I use email now all the time -I'm
a complete convert. I've always been one for leaping into technology
because I love it but I wasn't sure about email, I couldn't see the
advantage over fax and phone at first, apart from the cost. But it's
so handy, it's wonderful for keeping in touch and for business it's
essential. We get a lot of overseas people wanting to order cakes and
we can now direct them to the site so that they can have a better
look.
You're writing novels now which so far have all
had an unexpectedly dark side. Do you enjoy writing them as a kind of
release?
I must do! I think it's partly contrast, my image
for people is a fluffy, biscuity kind of woman and the books aren't.
But I can't judge it, I don't think they're that dark myself and I
don't set out to write them that way. Certainly the first two books
turned dark but perhaps it's that I like reading that kind of
material. I'm at the outline stage now of a third novel and I'm
trying to keep it brighter.
Does it annoy you when you are constantly
linked with Paul McCartney rather than being the individual that you
are and were in the Sixties? (Dave Thursby, High Leigh, Cheshire)
JA: No, not at all. I've never spoken about that
time because it was private and I took a decision not to. The problem
is that it then becomes a challenge and journalists do try sidling up
to the topic. It's been 30 years now, so I don't expect they'll
succeed in getting it out of me. Plus, after years of semi-fame,
never really being famous but not being obscure, you get used to
seeing yourself written about in so many ways. There used to be a bit
of truth in everything, but not really truth in any. I look at myself
objectively and in a way I see myself as a commodity. When they first
produced my cakes in the factories they introduced a new conveyor
belt and it became known as the 'Jane Asher'. As in 'Jane Asher's
broken down again'! Your name becomes somehow outside yourself. Now,
when I'm at home being Mrs Scarfe, that's when I'm most myself.