on-reflection-digest     Tuesday, August 3 1999     Volume 01 : Number 1801



Re: nongg: Renaissance
gg: Morris Pert & Percy Jones
gg: Fwd: Artist Shop Newsletter Part 3  AMBROSIA INFO
gg: ELP on VH1 this week!
Re: gg: TfTO, It Bites, Violinists...
Re: gg: Zn; Union; Loftus' will; cheezy patches; 3am; Pagani; Tom Benson; Ragsdale; Ozone Qt; A Benjamin
Re: gg: some GG content, I promise!
gg: GORGG T-shirt design
gg: GG at Hard Rock Cafe?
no gg: More Digital Ambrosia
gg: several things
gg: RE:me
Re: gg: Tales ... the final vibration?
Re: gg: Shite and sound
gg: Random Play / Track Presentience
gg: a little ELP from my friends

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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:08:31 EDT
From: Claudio666@aol.com
Subject: Re: nongg: Renaissance

In a message dated 8/2/99 9:57:59 AM Mountain Daylight Time, 
dgreen2@earthlink.net writes:

<< this brings up a pet peeve of mine. Seems to me if we're calling music
 PROGRESSIVE, it's counterproductive to be narrow in our definition of what 
does
 and doesn't fit into the term. To me, anoyne who's trying something fresh 
with
 blending musical forms is by definition a progressive musician. >>

Blending musical forms is fine, but ripping the classics note for note and 
passing it off as your own (arrangements by...) is something else.  Granted, 
what Renaissance did was novel, and the base material undoubtedly wonderful, 
I still don't call it prog.  Prog, for me, demands something original, not 
just a new take on an old theme, or a new rendition of an old tune.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy Renaissance, okay?

Claudio
n.d. Red Seal Ale
n.p. Duval vs. Woods

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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 18:32:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: JohnEric 
Subject: gg: Morris Pert & Percy Jones

Sorry All ... it occurs to me that I meant to ask Scott how he felt about
Percy Jones, after thinking of Jaco Pastorius.  Morris IS wonderful, it
just wasn't the same vein.  Bass.  Oh, well.

JEE

- --- "David J. Loftus"  wrote:
> 
> 
> I think JohnEric wrote:
> 
> > > >Hey, you mentioned Jaco P., how do you feel about Morris Pert?
> 
> 
> and Scott Steele obviously replied:
> 
> > > He's divine.  An underrated Brand X album is Masques, and Morris
> wrote a
> > > lot of the coolest tunes on that one.  - S.
> 
> 
> which prompted JohnEric to say:
> 
> > I liked Masques!  Yes, let's compare calendars when you get back.
> 
> 
> Masques is my favorite.  I saw Brand X on tour for that one, at the 
> Paradise in Boston.  Pretty cool to watch Pert racing around all his odd
> 
> percussion instruments.
> 
> I vaguely remember a double album of "world percussion" or something he 
> masterminded -- did it have a blue lion on the cover? -- that I listened
> 
> to once or twice, but it didn't grab my attention.
> 
> Has Morris Pert ever encountered Neil Peart...?
> 
> 
> David Loftus
> 


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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 21:31:15 EDT
From: Claudio666@aol.com
Subject: gg: Fwd: Artist Shop Newsletter Part 3  AMBROSIA INFO

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In a message dated 8/2/99 7:33:27 AM Mountain Daylight Time, MHB1212GG writes:

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 'Nice, Nice, Very Nice'. 
 
 AMBROSIA-LIFE BEYOND L.A. J  $24.95 
 Japanese reissue of the soft rocker's top 20 1978 album for Warner Brothers
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Hi, folks!

Here's Part 3 of The Artist Shop Newsletter continuing on with newly
released imports .

New Import Full Length CDs

AMBROSIA-AMBROSIA J  $24.95 
1999 reissue and CD debut of this classic 1975 album, originally released on
20th Century.  Features 8 tracks, including 'Holdin' On To Yesterday' and
'Nice, Nice, Very Nice'. 

AMBROSIA-LIFE BEYOND L.A. J  $24.95 
Japanese reissue of the soft rocker's top 20 1978 album for Warner Brothers
featuring the top five smash 'How Much I Feel' and the rockin' title cut. 10
tracks total. 

ATOMIC ROOSTER-DEVIL HITS BACK  $18.95 
15 of the finest by this cult prog rock group, 12 classic tracks & three
rare bonus tracks from a German radio broadcast. All cuts are digitally
remastered. The booklet includes previously unpublished photos and a
discography. Contains 'Devil's Answer' and broadcast versions of 'Save Me',
'Tomorrow Night' and 'Breakthrough' (with Chris Farlowe guesting). The last
three listed are the bonus tracks. 

AUGER,BRIAN-MOD YEARS:
(U.K COVER ART)  $20.95
(U.S. COVER ART)  $20.95 
Cult rock hero Auger's complete singles, B-sides & rare tracks from 1965-69,
with and without his group The Trinity and Julie Driscoll. 21 tracks, all
digitally remastered using 24 bit technology. The first six tracks listed on
the disc are all on CD for the first time ever! 

AUGER,BRIAN & JULIE TIPPETS-ENCORE $25.95
Japanese-only CD reissue of 1978 collaboration album recorded for Warner
Brothers. Nine tracks.

AYERS,KEVIN-WHATEVERSHEBRINGSWESING  $19.95 
Reissue of the third solo album by the early guitarist/ bassist/ vocalist
for artsy prog rock outfit Soft Machine, one of the most prominent bands of
the Canterbury scene in the late '60s/ early '70s. Guests on the album
include Mike Oldfield, David Bedford & Ayers' Soft Machine mate Robert
Wyatt. Contains all eight cuts from when the Harvest label originally
released the record in 1973, including the near hit 'Stranger In Blue Suede
Shoes'. 

BE BOP DELUXE-MODERN MUSIC + 3 $19.95
Limited edition, mid-priced 1990 reissue on Harvest of theirfourth album,
originally released in 1976 for the label. Features the original cover art &
18 tracks, the original 15and three bonus cuts, 'Futurist Manifesto', 'Quest
For The Harvest Of The Stars' & 'Autosexual'.

BLUE OYSTER CULT-AGENTS OF FORTUNE  $19.95 
Limited edition reissue, in a digipak, of B.O.C.'s top 30 & platinum 1976
album featuring the classic '(Don't Fear) The Reaper'. 

BUCKLEY,TIM-ONCE I WAS  $18.95 
Updated 1999 version of the late singer/ songwriter's long-unavailable BBC
sessions collection with a unique & previously unissued 20 minute live
version of 'I Don't Need It To Rain' recorded in 1968 in Copenhagen, Denmark
added as a bonus track. Nine tracks total. 

CLARKE,STANLEY-HOT FUN - BEST OF  $29.95
Digitally remastered collection, part of Sony Germany's Zounds series,
featuring the finest recordings for the Epic label by one of the greatest
post-bop & fusion bassists in jazz. Over 78 minutes long, it contains 16
tracks, including 'School Days', 'Rock'n'Roll Jelly' and 'Hello Jeff'.  

DEEP FOREST-MADE IN JAPAN + 2   $28.95 
Japanese edition of the group's 1999 concert album with two bonus tracks
added, 'Tres Marias' and 'White Whisper'. 14 tracks total.  

DEWAR,JAMES-STUMBLEDOWN  $18.95 
Solo album by Robin Trower's bassist/ vocalist.

ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA-BBC SESSIONS   $17.95 
10 tracks recorded at three sessions with Bob Harris in 1972, 1973 & 1974.
Includes versions of 'Roll Over Beethoven', 'In The Hall Of The Mountain
King' and 'Ma Ma Ma Belle'. 

ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA-FRIENDS & RELATIVES (2CD)  $31.95 
'Family tree' album featuring 29 tracks by E.L.O. and related artists,
including The Move, Tony Curtis, Wizzard, Bev Bevan, Roy Wood, Earthrise,
Carl Wayne and Rick Wakeman featuring Roy Wood. 

ENIGMA-MCMXC A.D. + 6 (2CD)  $26.95 
Reissue of Enigma's double platinum & top 10 debut from 1990 with a six
track bonus CD shrinkwrapped on top of the CD album and featuring three
mixes apiece of 'Sadeness - Part I' (Meditation Mix, Extended Trance Mix and
Violent US Remix) and 'Mea Culpa - Part II' (Fading Shades Mix, Orthodox
Version and Catholic Version). A combined total of 13 tracks. 

FAIRPORT CONVENTION-SHINES LIKE GOLD  $14.95 
13 of the finest recordings by England's premier electric folk group.
Includes 'Claudy Banks', 'Open The Door Richard' and 'Home Is Where The
Heart Is'. 

EROC & URS FUCHS-EUROSONIC EXPERIENCES  $17.95 
Collaborative full length by Urs Fuchs with Eroc, a member of krautrock
group Grobschnitt. Guests include Der Schwede, Ulla Van Daelen and Tobias
Becker. Nine tracks. 

GOLDEN EARRING-LOVE SWEAT  $14.95
Holland's top rock export performing cover versions of 13 classic songs,
including 'Turn The Page', 'This Wheel's On Fire', 'Who Do You Love', 'Sail
On Sailor' and 'When I Was Young'. 

GONG-OTHER SIDE OF THE SKY (2CD)  $15.95 
Two CD compilation of the finest recordings by Daevid Allen with his space/
prog outfit Gong. Includes 'The Pot Head Pixies', 'Squeezing Sponges Over
Policemans Heads' and 'Sold To The Highest Buddha'. 22 tracks total. 

HACKETT,STEVE-DARKTOWN + 2   $29.95 
Japanese edition of the 1999 solo album by Genesis' original guitarist with
two bonus tracks added, including 'Comin' Home To The Blues' and 'The Well
At The World's End'. 13 tracks total. Comes packaged in a standard jewelcase
within a colorful slipcase cover. 

HAM,PETE-GOLDERS GREEN + 2   $29.95 
Japanese edition of compilation of solo recordings by the late singer/
songwriter/ guitarist for Badfinger with two bonus tracks added, 'Piano Red'
& 'Evening Sky'. 22 tracks total. 

HASLAM,ANNIE-LIVE UNDER BRAZILIAN SKIES + 1   $27.95 
The former Renaissance vocalist captured live during her 1997 tour of Rio de
Janeiro and Petropolis in Brazil. Contains over 70 minutes of the best
performances from it, including many favorite Haslam solo tracks, some
classic Renaissance tunes and three brand new songs. The Japanese edition
adds 'Ocean Gypsy' as a bonus track, for a total of 16 selections. 

HAWKWIND-BACK CATALOG:
IT IS THE BUSINESS OF THE FUTURE TO BE DANGEROUS  $14.95 
LEVITATION  $14.95 
LIVE IN 1979  $14.95 
PALACE SPRINGS  $14.95 
SPACE BANDITS  $14.95 
XENON CODEX  $14.95 
Reissues of select albums from the '80s & '90s by the legendary English
prog/ space rock group.

HOOKER,JOHN LEE-THIS IS HIP - BEST OF... (2CD)  $15.95 
40 of the absolute greatest by one of the greatest blues guitarist's ever.
Features 'Boom Boom', 'Boogie Chillun', 'Big Legs, Tight Skirt' and 'I See
You When You're Weak'. 

JODY GRIND-FAR CANAL + 1   $19.95 
Reissue of the amazing British prog rock group's second album, complete with
the original artwork from when it was first issued on the Transatlantic
Records label in 1970 and all eight of the album's original tracks with the
single version of 'Rock 'n' Roll Man' added as a bonus track for a total of
nine cuts. Digipack. 1999 release. 

KAK-KAK-OLA  $20.95 
20 track compilation for the '60s West coast psychedelic group that evolved
from The Oxford Circle. Contains their entire sole album, 1969's 'Kak', plus
six previously unissued recordings, 'Everything's Changing' (Acoustic Demo),
'I've Got Time' (Acoustic Demo), 'Medley - Bye Bye/ Easy Jack', 'Bryte 'N'
Clear Day' (Acoustic Live Version), 'Medley - Mirage/ Rain' (Acoustic Live
Version) and 'When Love Comes In'. 

KANSAS-DUST IN THE WIND   $11.95 
Budget-priced collection featuring 14 rock classics, from both the '70s when
Steve Walsh served as Kansas' vocalist & from the '80s when John Elefante
took over. Includes 'Fight Fire With Fire', 'Dust In The Wind', 'Carry On
Wayward Son', 'Magnum Opus' and 'Paradox'. 1997 release. 

KING CRIMSON-DGM COLLECTORS KING CRIMSON... (3CD)  $73.95 
Japanese-only three CD collection of rare live shows previously only
available through the DGM Collectors Club. Disc onecontains tracks from two
different shows in '69, disc two has material from a Jacksonville show in
'71 and disc three features tracks from a German show in '72. 18 tracks total. 

LE ORME-L'AURORA DELLA ORME   $19.95 
Compilation of unreleased rarities by the original line-up from the late
'60s by this veteran Italian prog rock group. Includes 'Summer's Coming'
(English Version), a Dave Brubeck  cover and a remake of one of Johann
Sebastian Bach's works.12 tracks total. Digipack. 1999 release. 

LOCANDA DELLE FATE-HOMO HOMINI LUPUS   $20.95
1999 & second album by Italian prog rock group, their first  in 22 years!
The band spent nearly 500 hours in a recording studio over a two year period
putting it together. The result is monumental progressive music with
overtones of worldbeat & jazz. Lyrically, the themes range from love to war
to human wickedness, including one song apiece about the Yugoslavian war &
the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. The 12 page booklet contains
full lyrics in Italian, English and Latin. 11 tracks total. 

MAGNA CARTA-MIDNIGHT BLUE  $19.95
Reissue of the folky British prog rock veterans 1982 album.

MASTER'S APPRENTICES-BACK CATALOG:
MASTERPIECE  $18.95
CHOICE CUTS  $18.95 
NICKELODEON $18.95 
TOAST TO PANARAMA RED  $18.95 
Digitally remastered reissues of the first four albums by Australia's top
rock/ psych group of the early '70s that greatly influenced an entire
generation of Aussie independent rock bands. Each contains the original
cover art & all of the tracks from when first issued. The albums were
respectively released in 1970, 1971, 1971 and 1972. 

MAYALL,JOHN-BLUES POWER (2CD)  $15.95 
Two discs crammed full of gems from the first name in British blues,
including 'Life In The Jungle', 'All Your Love' and 'Ridin' On The L&N'. The
first disc is his 1988 'Chicago Line' album under a different title; the
second disc is comprised of eight live recordings from Germany in April,
1987 with Walter Trout guesting on the last four! 18 tracks in all.   

MCDONALD,COUNTRY JOE & FROND-EAT FLOWERS & KISS BABIES  $22.95
Unique collaboration between '60s folk/protest singer McDonald and current
psychedelic artist The Bevis Frond recorded the in the UK in 1998. 

MOVE-CALIFORNIA MAN  $19.95 
Reissue of 1974 album for the Harvest label by the influential British rock
group that featured pre-E.L.O. members Jeff Lynne, Bev Bevan and Roy Wood.
11 tracks, including 'Do Ya'. 

MOVE-SOMETHING ELSE... +  $14.95 
CD debut of long lost 1968 five track concert EP 'Live At The Marquee', plus
four bonus tracks the same show. Includes the original cover art. Tracks
include covers of tunes by the Byrds, Love, Spooky Tooth, Erma Franklin and
Jackie Wilson.

NELSON,BILL'S RED NOISE-SOUND ON SOUND  $19.95 
Reissue of the former Be Bop Deluxe guitarist's 1979 solo album for the
Harvest label. 

O.S.T.-PILLOW BOOK  $20.95
Soundtrack to the 1996 erotic drama written and d irected by Peter Greenaway
and starring Ewan McGregor. 12 tracks. 

OSIBISA-BLACK MAGIC NIGHT (2CD)  $15.95 
Reissue of this 1977 live set by this African world music/ funk act. 

OSIBISA-SUNSHINE DAY (2CD)  $15.95
Subtitled 'The Bronze/ Pye Anthology', this two disc set spans the years
1976-1980 & includes three complete albums ('Ojah Awake', 'Welcome Home' and
'Mystic Energy'), plus non-album tracks and a color foldout inlay with band
interviews. 

PARSONS,ALAN-TIME MACHINE + 1   $29.95 
Japanese edition of his 1999 album featuring the bonus track 'Beginnings',
for a total of 13 selections. 

PHILLIPS,SIMON-OUT OF BLUE + 1   $29.95 
Japanese edition of the rock drummer's 1999 solo album with 'Freudian Slip'
added as a bonus track. 11 cuts total. 

READ,DARRYL & RAY MANZAREK-FRESHLY DUG  $21.95 
1999 collaboration album recorded in Los Angeles by English poet/ vocalist
Darryl Read and The Doors' keyboardist Ray Manzarek.

RONSON,MICK-LIVE + 5 (2CD)  $25.95 
Compilation with 14 live recordings from the reputed guitarist. Included
with & limited to the first 5,000 copies is a bonus CD single with five more
live recordings. The main disc includes performances of 'Slaughter On 10th
Avenue' & an amazing cover of 'White Light/ White Heat', plus seven tracks
from a performance in Buffalo, NY in 1975 & five others. 

RUNDGREN,TODD-LIVE IN CHICAGO '91 (2CD)  $29.99 
Japanese-only release in a gatefold miniaturized LP sleeve limited to the
initial pressing only. Features 23 of Todd's best recorded in concert at the
Riviera Theatre on the North Side of the Windy City on August 26th of that
year. Includes 'Real Man', 'Love Of The Common Man', 'Hello It's Me' and a
three song Marvin Gaye medley.  

SAKAMOTO,RYUICHI-B2 UNIT  $22.95 
Japanese reissue of the former YMO leader's second solo album, first
released in 1980 and featuring XTC's Andy Part-ridge and British reggae
musician/ producer Dennis Bovell.   Eight tracks.  

SANTANA-FRIED NECKBONES & HOME FRIES (2CD)  $19.95
19 early recordings by Santana & his band, including live versions of
'Waiting', 'Jingo', 'Evil Ways' & 'Soul Sacrifice'. 

SANTANA-S.F. MISSION DISTRICT...   $19.95
Collection of live recordings from 1969 by Carlos & his band, including
'Evil Ways', 'Soul Sacrifice', 'Jingo' & 'Persuasion'. The CD format also
contains the 10 minutes of unreleased material that appear on the vinyl
configuration as a bonus 7 inch! Nine tracks total. Fold out digipack. 1999
release. 

SCHULZE,KLAUS-DREAMS/ EN=TRANCE (2CD)  $29.95
Two of the Tangerine Dream co-founder's 1987 records packaged together,
'Dreams', originally cut for the Brain label & 'En=trance', originally
released on the Thunderbolt label. A combined total of eight tracks. Each
disc in a separate standard jewelcase with the original artwork intact &
together they come inside of a full color slipcase. 

SUMMERS,ANDY-GREEN CHIMNEYS - THE MUSIC OF THELONIOUS MONK + 2   $29.95 
Japanese edition of the latest solo outing by the ex-Police guitarist with
two bonus tracks added, 'Off Minor' & 'Ruby My Dear' (Alternate Version). 15
selections in all, each a unique homage to the late great jazz pianist
Thelonious Monk. 

TWINK-THINK PINK   $19.95 
Reissue of the 1970 solo debut by the drummer for English psych/ prog rock
act the Pink Fairies. Twink recorded the album with Paul Rudolph and T.
Rex's Steve Peregrin Took. 10 tracks. Digipack. 1999 release. 

UFO-WEREWOLVES OF LONDON (2CD)  $20.95 
30th anniversary release featuring 15 of the British hard rock icons'
absolute best recorded in concert during their 1998 European tour, which saw
the reunion of the classic Mogg/ Schenker line-up for the first time in many
years. Tracks include 'Rock Bottom', 'Doctor, Doctor', 'Lights Out', 'Only
You Can Rock Me' and 'Too Hot To Handle'. Also features an eight page
booklet with sleeve notes by Paul Raymond. 

ULTRAVOX-ORIGINAL GOLD (2CD)  $15.95 
Budget-priced two disc set focusing on their Chrysalis/ EMI years in the
'80s with Midge Ure.

V/A-100 HEAVY HORSES  $11.95 
Budget-priced sampler for the A New Day label. Features tracks by Mick
Abrahams, Ian Anderson, Blodwyn Pig, Jackie Lynton, Vikki Clayton, Clive
Bunker, Solstice and others. 

WHITE,SNOWY-PURE GOLD: SOLO YEARS 1984-89   $17.95 
Collection of solo recordings by the legendary guitarist who has worked with
Thin Lizzy, Pink Floyd, Peter Green, Steve Harley, etc. 15 tracks, including
the hit 'Birds Of Paradise' and four previously unreleased tracks. 

WILLIAMSON,ROBIN & CLIVE PALMER-AT THE PURE FOUNTAIN  $20.95 
Former Incredible String Band members Robin Williamson and Clive Palmer
together again with a mixture of old and new material. 16 tracks in all. 

WIZZARD-WIZZARD BREW  $19.95 
Reissue of 1973 solo debut for the United Artists label by the eccentric
English multi-instrumentalist/ co-founder of both The Move and Electric
Light Orchestra. 

WOOD,ROY-EXOTIC MIXTURE - BEST OF SINGLES A'S & B'S (2CD)  $25.95 
39 of the noted '70s rocker's singles, both A-sides & B-sides, all digitally
remastered. Includes 'When Gran'ma Plays The Banjo', 'Jubilee', 'I Never
Believed In Love' and 'Green Glass Windows'. 

YARDBIRDS-YARDBIRDS (2CD)  $14.95 
Budget-priced two disc set with 32 of the greatest from this seminal British
Invasion rock group. Includes 'I Ain't Got You', 'For Your Love', 'Heart
Full of Soul', 'Evil Hearted You' and 'Shapes Of Things'. 


New Import Publications

BOWIE,DAVID-WE CAN BE HEROES  $17.95 
160 pages written by Sean Mayes, who played and toured with Bowie from the
early '70s up to 1978. Also features eight pages of previously unseen black
& white photos, plus an introduction by Bowie himself. 5" x 8" paperback. 

DYLAN,BOB-TOUCHED BY THE HAND OF BOB  $25.95 
196 page book featuring interviews with stars who have covered or been
influenced by Dylan's songs including Sheryl Crow, Bono, Billy Bragg, Paul
McCartney and Jerry Garcia. 

GABRIEL,PETER-AUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY  $29.95 
Updated version of this popular bio first published in 1989. Now includes
info on the 'Us' album, Womad, the 'Secret World' tour and more. 524 pages
of text and 16 pages of black & white photos. 6" x 9.5" hardback. 


New Domestic CDs

MAGNUM-PROGRESSIVE CLASSICS  $17.95 
1999 limited edition pressing on a gold disc of this 16 track collection by
this progressive hard rock band who've been making music for over 20 years.
Features 'Kingdom Of Madnes s', 'Without Your Love', 'Changes' and 'Start
Talking Love'. All tracks are digitally remastered. 

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Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1999 22:45:03 -0400
From: Daniel Potvin 
Subject: gg: ELP on VH1 this week!

ELP will be featured on VH1's "Where Are They Now?"  program in the USA. This
is the Classic Rock Episode No #21 and will debut at 10pm Tuesday August 3rd.
Check your time zone! It will repeat later that night at 1:30am (followed by
another episode featuring Kansas & Jethro Tull).

It will also be repeated on Friday the 6th at 1pm & Saturday at 3pm. Again,
please check your local listings for your time zone. If you miss it, don't
worry... They repeat these things about 100 times over the course of the year.

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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:23:16 +0200
From: casglatze@t-online.de (casglatze)
Subject: Re: gg: TfTO, It Bites, Violinists...

After all the talk about It Bites I pulled out my copy and gave it a spin.  
> Very pleasantly surprised!  It's been 10 years and it's aged quite well!  
> These guys could rock and still slip some sublime arrangements in.....
>
Great call, but...you must tell the guy who can't keep his pee-pee in!
Carsten, the unrelenting Krautmeister (no hard feelings, Julius?)

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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:23:14 +0200
From: casglatze@t-online.de (casglatze)
Subject: Re: gg: Zn; Union; Loftus' will; cheezy patches; 3am; Pagani; Tom Benson; Ragsdale; Ozone Qt; A Benjamin

>
> >np: Dregs - NYC '81
>
> 'at's my lad!

Yeah, but what crap sound! (Sorry for being a bit of a spoilsport, but when I 
listen to music, I just LURVE a good sound!)

(Now that digital guitar effects boxes are so popular, guitarists are
>  suffering from the same disease, flying through dozens of cheezy patches
>  instead of exploring the subtleties and variations of a single sound setup. 
>  I think it's a very bad thing because the listener loses all context of the
>  instrument, and without context it becomes just a collection of funny
>  noises.)

It was about time someone put it that bluntly. Since joining O-R, I don't feel 
like a boring old (39) fart anymore about still loving a nice-sounding guitar 
with little effects...mmh, what do we have? A wah-wah, fuzz and flanger - and 
all that through a nice old tube amp! C-ER-UNCHY!!! Ah, the benefits of growing 
up when you actually had to play and not just be able to use nifty little 
gadgets...

> JLP will go to heaven based on JLP Live (1978) alone.

Yessiree! I contacted him via his website and was told that obviously he can now 
shop the masters for this one around - so far Warners (I think) refused to let 
him do that. Now he seems to have control. So let's just pray that this thing 
comes out on CD SOOONNNN-ish. Check out his site on www.ponty.com

Carsten the Krautmeister
n.p.: Deep Purple: Total Abandon - Australia '99 (has JUST come out; was put out 
by the Deep Purple Appreciation Society). Before anyone gives me flack here, let 
me tell you that this is one HELLUVA show! It's complete, untampered with, great 
sound, great arrangements (with a lot of new ideas to not warrant the reproach 
"Oh, same old shit again!") - and EVERYONE is in peak form...including good ol' 
Steve Morse. Check it out!

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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 06:23:17 +0200
From: casglatze@t-online.de (casglatze)
Subject: Re: gg: some GG content, I promise!

James Warren schrieb:

I like Triumvirat

At last, someone admits it. I LOVE 'em, especially Illusions on a Double Dimple 
and Spartacuse!

I'd be interested to read a convincing defense of Uriah Heep (feel free to
> email).  Perhaps it might help me reassess them enough to avoid leaving
> the radio station's broadcast room every time they are played :-)

I won't try to convince you, as that will probably be near to impossible. I 
happen to love them, especially Salisbury, Demons & Wizards, Sweet Freedom, 
Live and Wonderworld. BUT...give Ken Hensley's "Proud Words on a Dusty Shelf" a 
listen. It's so much more laid-back, features a heap of Heeps (sorry for the 
pun) - a classic!

Carsten the Krautmeister

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 02:24:26 -0700
From: Nicholas Haus 
Subject: gg: GORGG T-shirt design

Hails to everybody,

What will all the hippest Dudes & Babes be wearing this fall over their sweaters, coats & jackets?...

I've designed a t-shirt to commemorate the up-coming Global On-Reflection Giant Gathering that has been planned for October 8-11 in NYC.  The shirts will be black Haines Beefy Ts with white ink.  If you'd like a sneek peek, email me &
I'll send you a jpeg & purchasing info.

Pretty swanky lookin'...maybe too swanky!  ;-)

Cheers,
Nick in Fresno

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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 09:32:14 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daniel Barrett 
Subject: gg: GG at Hard Rock Cafe?

I have a report that the Hard Rock Cafe in Baltimore, MD, has a bass drum
on display that formerly belonged to GG.  In fact, it has "Gentle Giant"
painted on it.

Can any "Bawlmer" natives confirm?

                                                        Dan

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:22:00 -0400
From: "Jerry McCarthy" 
Subject: no gg: More Digital Ambrosia

Kiirja wrote:

> >domestically, I can't say, but the first
> >> and third are currently showing up on pre-order lists around the Web as
> >> Japanese imports. Thoughtscape Sounds, for one, has them listed...
>
> YAHOO! Sounds like there will be relief soon for the Ambrosia drought!

I noticed after I sent my original post yesterday that Gary Davis of The
Artist Shop also has these Japanese reissues of Ambrosia & Life Beyond
L.A. listed as available:
http://www.artist-shop.com/catalog/imports/new.htm


- --Jerry  (NP: The Band - Music From Big Pink)

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 07:31:09 PDT
From: "Alan Benjamin" 
Subject: gg: several things

Greetings,

Ack! So many things on my mind. Will probably forget something, but here 
goes....

In regard to whether Renaissance is "progressive" or not, Diana wrote:

>this brings up a pet peeve of mine. Seems to me if we're calling
>music PROGRESSIVE, it's counterproductive to be narrow in our
>definition of what does and doesn't fit into the term. To me, anoyne
>who's trying something fresh with blending musical forms is by
>definition a progressive musician. I now we've been down this road
>before, but it always bugs me.

I'm on the fence with this one. However, being "progressive" doesn't equate 
to being good. Or vice versa. In the '70s we (my close friends and I) used 
to gravitate toward music that we considered to be "cool"--regardless of 
categorization. Over time, I came to realize that a significant portion of 
this music could be called progressive. It was also handy to use the term 
when asked about the style of music I favor, as "cool" would not be very 
informative.

From what I've seen, most O-R readers enjoy quite a bit of music that does 
not fit squarely into the progressive banner. From a personal standpoint, a 
random sampling of these which I enjoy (excluding jazz and fusion): Kate 
Bush, Chicago, Congreso, Flairck, Freeway Philharmonic, Kevin Gilbert, 
Egberto Gismonti, (early) Heart, Michael Hedges, Horslips, It Bites, Japan, 
Scott Johnson, Julverne, Die Knödel, (early) Lake, Max Webster, Mark 
O'Connor, Astor Piazzolla, Queen, Rush, Saga, Slapp Happy, Sparks, 
Television, Henry Threadgill, The Tubes, Valensia, and (early) Van Halen. 
It's not surprising to me that many (of not most) of these artists have been 
mentioned here at one time or another. I guess the point I'm trying to make 
is that the quality of the music is much more important than how progressive 
it is (if that makes any sense).

As to Renaissance, I would say that some of their work more than borders on 
progressive, although a significant part of this is in the arrangements. 
More importantly, their work often featured interesting and inspired 
songwriting, along with wonderful performances--and often superior 
production (the live album was a killer in this regard).

In regard to the availability of Ambrosia albums on CD, Jerry recent 
mentioned:

>Alan (and Kiirja and Marc) ... domestically, I can't say, but the
>first and third are currently showing up on pre-order lists around
>the Web as Japanese imports.

Thanks for the update Jerry. The one I'm really jonesing for is the second 
one (_Somewhere I've Never Travelled_), though. Will probably have to wait 
for the domestic Warner Bros./Rhino release. The third one was released in 
Japan a long time ago, but probably went out of print for a while.

Doug Johnson recently stated:

>(DJ)Anything worth listening to requires some serious listening time to
>(DJ)really appreciate it. This applies across the board to all art that
>(DJ)has any depth whatsoever.

Nicely stated!

Before departing, I must take one extra moment to defend It Bites. While 
they are more proggish pop than prog, there's a lot of substance there--as 
well as impressive attention to detail, and great guitar playing from 
Francis Dunnery. Be sure to check out _Once Around the World_ before writing 
these guys off.

Take it easy,


Alan

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 10:48:07 +0000
From: Diana Green 
Subject: gg: RE:me

hail all;
    If you've been wondering why I've been uncharacteristically quite on
list (s) for the last few weeks, it's because I've been working on a
print for the newly reformed Gnidrolog. Now that it's done and all
official like, I can let the cat out of the sack, as it were!
Go to:
http://stewartelliott.org/gnidrolog/sales.html
to see the work. and check out the rest of the site while you're there!
this is a very exciting time for the Gnids, and please join me in
wishing them well as they prepare for their first public gig in years!
or as Shawn put it:
WE will sing you a song
we will do you no wrong
we will brighten up your day
we will make you a king with an eloquent ring
we will serenade your queen!
still,
diana
np: Mary Hopkin: Post Card

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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:56:38 -0600
From: Jeff Smith 
Subject: Re: gg: Tales ... the final vibration?

>Yes was my favorite band for several years in high school (until I went
>to see them live on the Relayer tour and a band called Gentle Giant
>opened for them.

I saw the second phase Relayer tour in Cincinnati in '76 when they used all
the Roger Dean designed props.  I had always assumed this was THE Relayer
tour but I checked the Forgotten Yesterdays web site
http://www.nfte.org/fy/index.htm and they list the Relayer tour as 74/75 and
call this the Solo tour as all the band members had put out solo albums by
then, although all the music they played was Yes music, including the
Relayer tunes, Sound Chaser and Gates of Delirium.  The opening act was the
forgettable Pousette Dart Band.  I did get to see Gentle Giant open for Rick
Wakeman in Cincinnati the previous year, which is why I went to that show
anyway.

np: Ozric Tentacles - Waterfall Cities

Jeff Smith

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Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 07:06:28 PDT
From: "Henrik Johansson" 
Subject: Re: gg: Shite and sound

> >So many little things the camera operators could have done to help out us
> >poor fans, though.  There's far too much footage of Derek alone,
> >especially in the 1977 BBC Sight and Sound concert.  Nothing against
> >Derek, but there are virtually no closeups of any of the other band
> >members' faces, and only the slightest attention to Kerry's and Gary's
> >hands -- nothing at all of Ray's.
>
>Tell me about it David. When those Sight and Sound programmes were being 
>put
>out in the 70's and early 80's you could hear me yelling at the BBC
>cameraman from infront of my telly, up the street. "NO YOU IDIOT! WHY ARE
>YOU DOING A CLOSE UP OF THE BASS PLAYERs FINGERS WHEN THIS IS A GUITAR
>SOLO?" This kind of thing happened all too often. There was always too many
>shots of the vocalist. I guess none of the Beeb cameramen knew much about
>rock music.

I had similar thoughts when watching the ZDF video from 1975. There are far 
too many shots at band members' faces when the ca,era should have zoomed out 
a bit to catch what he's actually playing. And it's a shame that both verses 
of "Runaway" contains NOT ONE SINGLE CLIP of either Ray, Gary or Kerry, who 
are doing the playing!!! I was nearly screaming at the cam-men too, although 
24 years too late I guess...

Henrik J


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Date: Tue, 03 Aug 1999 13:48:06 -0400
From: Bert Rubini 
Subject: gg: Random Play / Track Presentience

David L wrote:


> I don't have a random player -- I've only seen and heard other people's.
> But I can appreciate what you're saying.  Every once in a while, random
> play must come up with a dynamite segue in terms of mood, or very
> different tunes in the same key....
>
This has come up before in this forum, I think everyone
knows I'm a major fan of "random play".  I can't say enough
about how it has changed my way of listening to music.  I've
noticed that for "older" music (ie, music that I'm already
familiar with), I listen to the CDs straight through, but
for music that is new to me, I always put it on "random".
There's nothing better than putting 5 new CDs in the player
and waiting to see what comes out.


> This seems as good a time as any to ask if other people "hear" cuts
> before they arrive.  In other words, you know an album so well that when
> a cut ends, maybe even BEFORE it does -- you can hear the next one in
> your mind.
>
I'm like this with all the Beatles albums, which is why I
was SEVERELY bummed out when the older albums came out on CD
as "British versions", with different track orders.  This
really detracted from my enjoyment of some of the discs,
esp. "Rubber Soul", which I always like to  listen to
straight thru, no interruptions.  I still haven't gotten
used to the new line-up!

bert

np: Coldcut "Let Us Play"
ne:  a crappy preservative-filled brownie from the vending
machine at my office.

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Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 12:56:40 -0500 
From: "Lottich, Steve" 
Subject: gg: a little ELP from my friends

Ant:
> >>Gentle Giant? I thought this was the Ricky Martin/Yes list.
> >
> >Don't be absurd, this is the TFTO list isn't it?
> 
> Hey Bob, wait till we start on ELP.

OK, I'll start.  After Keith Emerson wrote "The Barbarian" in 1971, he
invented a time machine and went back in time to 1911 where he met a
struggling composer named Bela Bartok.  Keith played his composition for
Bela, who was jealous because he couldn't write anything that cool, so he
stole it and called it "Allegro Barbaro".  During the return to his own
time, Keith stopped over in 1926, where he met Leos Janacek.  Not learning
the Bartok lesson, Keith played Leos another piece he was working on called
"Knife-Edge".  Again jealousy reared its ugly plagiaristic head, and Leos
stole the song and used it as the basis for his "Sinfonietta".  Never one to
stop trusting his fellow composers, Keith has visited many over the years,
always with the same results.  These frequent excursions forward and
backward through time have taken their toll, giving his face the rubbery
consistency it has today.  History tells us that in 2007, Keith will make
his last trip back in time, to 1803, where he has a son named Ralph Waldo.
Unfortunately, Keith dies during childbirth.

SteveL

ps:  Emerson and Lake wrote Jeremy Bender, but he never wrote back.
HAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

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