on-reflection-digest Friday, September 10 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1859 Re: gg: "Green Haze" nogg: re: First 45; books gg: YES setlist: UH-OH, we're all wrong. Re: gg: Oh what a silly nun am I. gg: Montreux Detroit Jazz Festival/ELVIN JONES/Max Roach/SM's "4" Re: gg: first 45 gg: Re: Re: No GG: Stand Up; Snipped Tubes no gg: Renaissance no gg: Renaissance Re: gg: noGG: Kronos Re: gg: re: First 45; books Re: gg: "Green Haze" gg: GG in Sweden Re: no gg: Renaissance gg: MontRe: ux und Jazz (or He ain't no chipmunk!) gg: Boox (or Buchs?) gg: Yes set list In Brazil Re: gg: re: First 45; books gg: L Shankar; 3 Dog Night; Hot Rats for kids; 7 Fusebros; Capt Beyond!; Summers/Baked Potato; books gg: Incense RE: gg: re: First 45; books gg: noGG re: books gg: RE: Re: For the head count... Re: gg: Fabio Katz at Chapters Southkeys, Ottawa, Canada, Fri Sep 10 gg: books Re: gg: Renaissance following gg: No GG: Stand Up; Snipped Tubes gg: opening for Renaissance gg: Pop, Books gg: Terrapin CD's gg: We B Sit E (under construction) Re: gg: re: First 45; books Re: gg: opening for Renaissance ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:57:15 -0400 From: Bob Angilly Subject: Re: gg: "Green Haze" There's a local Boston band who used to do Stairway to Heaven with the lyrics from Gilligan's Isle. JohnEric wrote: > Speaking of "Purple Haze", I once purchased a release by Elvis Hitler > strictly for their rendition of Purple Haze, but with the lyrics from the > Green Acres TV show. They were (are?) a rockabilly/grunge band, and the > CD is entitled "Disgraceland". The song is called "Green Haze". They > stuck to the actual lyrics (every word, inflection, and melody line) and > were equally true to the underlying instrumental from "Purple Haze". > You'd be surprised at how those two themes harmonize together when sung - > crooned - screamed - and played over the top of one another. Astonishing > and hilarious! > > JohnEric > > --- Claudio666@aol.com wrote: > > > but features works by Reich, Riley, Crumb, Glass as well as Barber's > > "Adagio" > > and Hendrix' "Purple Haze". It's on Nonesuch, # 79394. > > > === > http://www.mindspring.com/~jjellison/nightsky.htm > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com - -- Tickle me! :-) Elmo __ __ .' '.' `. _.-| o | o |-._ .~ `.__.'.__.'^ ~. .~ ^ / \ ^ ~. \-._^ ^| | ^_.-/ `\ `-._ \___/ ^_.-' /' `\_ `--...--' /' `-.._______..-' /\ /\ __/ \__ | |/ /_ .'^ ^ `. .' `__\ .' ^ ^ `.__.'^ .\ \ .' ^ . ^ . ^ .' \/ / / ^ \'.__.' | ^ /| ^ | ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:02:10 EDT From: Biffyshrew@aol.com Subject: nogg: re: First 45; books Mark L. Potts wrote: >What book are you reading at the moment? Harold Bloom: _Shakespeare: The Invention Of The Human_. Also have been halfway through Michael R. Beschloss' _Taking Charge: The Johnson White House Tapes_ for months...every time I pick it up I only seem to get through a couple of pages. On top of the "to read" stack is _An American Band: The Story Of Grand Funk Railroad_ by Billy James. I actually have zero interest in GFR, but my name's in the credits because I supplied the author with a bunch of Xeroxes when he was doing his research. Your pal, Biffy the Elephant Shrew ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:16:03 -0400 From: "him, her and the dog" Subject: gg: YES setlist: UH-OH, we're all wrong. At 10:54 PM 09/09/1999 -0400, Si wrote: ><> And I agreed whole heartedly to my terrible mix up of " Heart of the Sunrise " and " South..."..understandable, both great tunes. But uh oh..we both err'd Si! They did play "South Side of the Sky" as an encore on rare occasions during both the Fragile and the Relayer tours. ( according to sources) Never say never..it's such a nasty word. ;) BTW, do i get my OR list points back? I was saving up to buy mammie a christmas present with them. As always: osMOOSEis n.p. Zappa: ThingFish... the whole damn thing ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:24:45 -0400 From: "him, her and the dog" Subject: Re: gg: Oh what a silly nun am I. Mammie, You silly silly nun! Why must you tell us that which we know so well already? ;) All in all, I love reading your mammie-posts. BTW, dont go ticket-troning your YES tickets like you did Tull untill you talk to me cause you know I'll drive and they will hit Syracuse for a show. If you do, i'll come over to your house and...oh wait, this is hitting the list huh? Oooops! Bandwidth waste! So now it's what.... Silly Moose too? Silly osMOOSEis ~never the cause, just the problem... ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:26:03 EDT From: "Reginald Dunlop" Subject: gg: Montreux Detroit Jazz Festival/ELVIN JONES/Max Roach/SM's "4" Hello Giants! Hack(Reg) here. I'm hackin' on as usual. :) Anyway...I went to the Detroit Montreux Jazz Festival this past Sunday. Many of you told me to go see Brubeck on the Monday, but my craving for percussive grenades was too tempting, so I decided to go on the Sunday for some Elvin Jones Jazz Machine instead. Am I ever glad I went! I have never seen anyone drum like that in my life. Elvin Jones puts all Prog. weenies to shame. :) The young black piano player from Detroit in Elvin's band was just unbelievable. He sounded like a cross between Oscar Peterson, Keith Tippett and Cecil Taylor(...and maybe some Herbie Nichols and Bud Powell). The first 2 tunes, Elvin Jones was blowing me away with his *warm-up* tunes. I call them *warm-up* tunes because what proceeded them was nutty. All of a sudden, Elvin Jones just started dropping percussive bombs everywhere...just lettin' loose all over those skins bruthaz and sistaz. He sounded like 4 drummers in one(and I thought Bruford was amazing!!!) At 72 years old, Elvin even looks about 20 years younger than he actually should. If Elvin Jones ever hits your city, be sure to attend. You won't be denied your adrenaline rush. My wife was even shaking her booty...and she's a pedestrian(ha! ha! ha!) :) My next concert I will attend will be in Detroit. Check out this line-up: Max Roach - DRUMS Geri Allen - PIANO, KEYBOARDS Vernon Reid - GUITAR Oh my goodness! Are you drooling Fuse-bros? It's cooler to be a jazz-cat than it is to be a Fuse-bro. ;) Later, JAZZ-CAT REG(Hack) np: Max Roach Trio - "Featuring The Legendary Hassan"(this CD kicks the door down on Brubeck's "Time Out". This is my favourite *drum and piano* album of all time!!! Think of Soft Machine's "Fourth" unplugged. Speaking of SM's "Fourth", this is my favourite *rock drumming* album of all time. Robert Wyatt's cymbal work on "Virtually" is too much for me to handle. Remarkable stuff! Simply sublime I say. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:35:10 +0200 From: "Jorunn Nome & Bert Vijn" Subject: Re: gg: first 45 Ant wrought: > Did you slow them down to 33 to get the reverse effect? Anybody but me had a player with 16 2/3 speed as well? Playing LPs at half speed (one octave below real frequencies) was great for writing the stuff down, for analyzing it and for practicing to play the stuff. 45? 33? OK, I'm on. First record ever: a 45 by a local singer who called himseld DC Lewis if memory serves. "Mijn gebed" (My prayer) featured a church organ, but I still had to talk long hours with my parents in order to be allowed to buy it. My mother had sensed there was sth in the lyrics about him having no regrets, and going to church only to hear the organ music. Perfectly logical to me, but kinda threatening to my mother, presumably. First LP: Ekseption "Beggar Julia's Time Trip", a present. First LP I was allowed to buy off my parent's money: most probably some Focus or "The Yes Album". First LP bought of my first official salary: "Fragile". A landmark in the history of Bert Vijn. I had made an appointment with the record shop that they would keep open somewhat longer that day, so I could first finish my job, then get my salary and then run to the record shop. When I came home, dinner was served and I asked to be allowed to play the stuff for them, on the player right next to the dinner table, speakers at ears height when you sat down. Perfec! After some discussion, I was allowed 1 song, 1 song only. Despite their looking on their watches and protesting several times (they had expected a 3 minute thing, right?), Roundabout WAS finished before I had to stop the player. Asked for a comment (I expected enthusiasm, mind you!), my father said like from the grave: "I hope I'll never have to hear this again!" Hm. Weird, eh? He likes Focus and Jethro Tull though. c-ya, v-b ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:38:24 +0200 From: "Jorunn Nome & Bert Vijn" Subject: gg: Re: Re: No GG: Stand Up; Snipped Tubes > You used to be ablr to join the vasectomy club over here and you got a tie > with a big V on it. This was supposed to signal that you were safe for no > risk sex. Those were the days eh! Those days? I'm _still_ sought after! V-Bert ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:51:18 -0400 From: "Jerry McCarthy" Subject: no gg: Renaissance > no gg: Renaissance following better opening bands Yeah, as if. Claudio wrote: > << We all already know that I disagree completely with Claudio on this > opinion (snore, snore). >> > > I'd respond to this post but I'm too busy napping. You're right, it's a > snoozer. Can we agree to disagree on this? I'll never bring it up again. OK, Claudio, it's a deal. But I ain't finished with that Biffy guy yet! ;-) Apropos of the whole Renaissance-in-the-80s thread, I dug through some folders last night and pulled out the Goldmine interview with Annie Haslam from Dec. 22, 1995 to see what she may have said on the subject. It's a long article and I didn't have time to re-read the whole thing, but I found this blurb regarding the Camera Camera (81) and Time-Line (83) albums interesting: Goldmine: "What is your opinion of the last two albums? ... You weren't happy with them?" Annie: "No, except for Okichi-San [from Camera Camera]. No, I wasn't really happy with them. They're all good songs, but they just weren't me ... What can you do? It was two against one [referring to Jon Camp & Mick Dunford]. I was so upset. This is the beginning of the end, I think. It didn't sell. If anything, we should have gone back to the original concept of the music and tried to bring that into the '80s rather than trying to do something totally different. We should have done what we were good at, which was progressive classical-style stuff." Ginny wrote: > Sort of like what happened to me in 1985. The lineup was Fairport > Convention, then Steeleye Span, then Renaissance. [snip] > And Renaissance? > I can't even remember who was in the band, except a young Russian > keyboardist who gave off the air of a classical musician manqué. Sorry for your bad experience. Believe me, Ginny, if you saw 'em in 1985, you didn't really see Renaissance. As Annie is fond of saying (several times in the above article), Renaissance was 5 people ... John Tout, Terry Sullivan, Mick Dunford, Jon Camp, and Annie Haslam. Oh, for wont of a time machine.... Was this an all-acoustic set by any chance? They hit a period where money was so tight that they decided to tour acoustically both to save money and to see if they could put a new spin on older material that way. I'm not sure if that was the 85 tour (which I didn't see) or not. Their 80s tours were generally disasters. On one, Jon Camp left the band with no bass player 10 days before the tour started. And the farewell 87 tour was a painful affair all-around, for the band *and* the fans. I'm not sure who you may have seen on keyboards. For much of the 80s, they toured with Raphael Rudd ("The Awakening") on piano/synths (but I didn't think he was Russian). They also used Peter Gosling on 80s recordings but I'm not sure whether he ever toured with them. Probably did. > Annie Haslam seemed stuck-up I've met and chatted with Annie and that's not been my impression at all. > and at one point she said, after some incident I > can't remember, "Isn't it always a laugh when you come to see us?" I felt > like saying, "I didn't travel all the way from Princeton to Philadelphia > just to see *you*." Annie laughs a lot, always has. She's always good for several bouts of uncontrolled laughter during any show. From personal experience, I doubt very much that she meant this in the pompous/arrogant way you took it. But you're entitled. BTW, isn't Princeton to Philly only about 45 miles? I guess it's whatever you get used to. I do more than that to-fro work every day, so I'd think nothing of going that far for a concert. > I haven't been much interested in Renaissance since then, either, come > to think of it. It's too bad when a bad experience (or the perception of) turns someone against a band. I've had that happen to me as well and it's unfortunate. It's very hard to get past it most of the time. Ginny, I was listening to your tape in the car while driving to work this morning and I have to say that an hour of traditional Thai music followed by 8 hours of publishing Physics is quite a bracing juxtaposition! Thanks again for the tape, I'm enjoying it. But, what, no Wreck Unplugged? on vol. 2, maybe?! :-) - --Jerry (NP: Return to Forever - Where Have I Known You Before?) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:04:29 -0400 From: "Jerry McCarthy" Subject: no gg: Renaissance Frank Carvalho wrote: > This seems like a trend. Maybe the dream gig is as an opener for > Renaissance. All the bands mentioned; Fairport, Caravan, GG seemed > to get new fans from being Renaissance openers. You want fame? > Open for Renaissance. Not necessarily! :-) Although many of the openers for them that I saw did either go on to, or already had, pretty respectable careers, there are also a few who went into the Where-Are-They-Now? file: June 7, 1975, Calderone Concert Hall, Hempstead, NY Opening Act: Mike Quatro November 29, 1975, Felt Forum, New York City, NY Opening Act: Al Stewart April 30, 1976, St. John's University Alumni Hall, Jamaica, NY Opening Act: Stanky Brown Group December 16, 1976, C.W. Post Dome, Brookville, NY Opening Act: Mike Greene Band February 18, 1977, Radio City Music Hall, New York City, NY Opening Band: Sea Level July 19, 1977, Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY Opening Act: Jean-Luc Ponty October 28, 1977, Hofstra University Physical Fitness Center, Hempstead, NY Opening Act: Dean Friedman March 23, 1978, City Center, New York City, NY Opening Act: Bill Lamb March 28, 1979, Adelphi Calderone, (either Garden City, NY or Hempstead, NY) Opening Act: Robin Batteau & David Buskin May 29, 1987, My Father's Place, Roslyn, NY No Opening Act - --Jerry (NP: Billy Cobham - Spectrum) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:10:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "David J. Loftus" Subject: Re: gg: noGG: Kronos On Thu, 9 Sep 1999 Biffyshrew@aol.com wrote: > David J. Loftus wrote: > > >Incidentally, cellist Joan Jeannerud (sp?) is a sleek blonde babe > >who is very easy on the eyes. > > It's Jeanrenaud, and she has recently split from Kronos. Oh NO! Is the quartet auditioning new babes for the cello position? David Loftus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:24:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "David J. Loftus" Subject: Re: gg: re: First 45; books On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Mark L. Potts wrote: > I have a question for you peeps out in cyberspace... > > What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right now > but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag, > whatever? Right now I'm reading _Collected Short Stories_ of Gabriel Garcia Marquez and a story collection by Julio Cortazar (because I'm looking for something suitable for a live reading of "magic realists" at a couple of local Borders Books at the end of the month), and for myself I'm reading the second volume of Richardson's bio of Picasso, a manual on bonsai cultivation, and probably a few others I've forgotten. > And what was the book you read before that? Gah! Ummm ... recently finished Richard Powers' _Galatea 2.2_ (he's my big discovery of this year; _The Gold Bug Variations_ is an awesomely good novel), and Gore Vidal's autobiography, _Palimpsest_. > I have just finished reading a light-hearted little book called Plague, > Pestilence and Pox (Yes, it is about exactly what it says in the > title!) You might enjoy _Honey, Mud, Maggots, and Other Medical Marvels : The Science Behind Folk Remedies and Old Wives' Tales_ by Robert Root-Bernstein and Michele Root-Bernstein. Delightful and fascinating little book. > and am on with Caleb Carr's sequel to The Alienist, Angel of Darkness > (a good old crime novel set in 1897 NYC). A copy of _The Alienist_ has been sitting in our stack for months. David Loftus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 08:27:29 -0700 (PDT) From: "David J. Loftus" Subject: Re: gg: "Green Haze" On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Bob Angilly wrote: > There's a local Boston band who used to do Stairway to Heaven with the > lyrics from Gilligan's Isle. It's not a perfect fit because of the "But it's all right..." portion of the chorus, but large chunks of the Stones' "Jumping Jack Flash" and Joni Mitchell's "Woodstock" (in the rocking mode that Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young did it) may be sung over each other, so of course I do that. David Loftus ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:40:55 +0200 From: "Jerry Bartlett" Subject: gg: GG in Sweden Been away for awhile, and I haven't caught up with all the digests, so sorry in advance for missing anything. Well, I managed to pick up Int-erview in Concert (or Consert, if you prefer), much to my delight. I agree that the sound is a bit ropey, but it is a great performance, and even thought most of it is well known, I think it's interesting to hear the slightly different 'mixes' in all these recordings, giving the pieces a different slant. Timing is a cracker. In Mellotronen, in Stockholm, I managed to pick up an original UK AtT, you know, with no bend, original Vertigo label. I've bought this album 5 times now! I was trying to explain to my wife why I needed this particular one... Lots of great stuff in that shop. Did I spy a new Sammla Mammas Manna (kaka) or was I misled? Got to hear some Wigwam. I have had Nuclear Nightclub for ages, which I wasn't too impressed with. This one was MUCH more to my liking. /Jerry, until this morning, Firmly in Sweden ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:04:21 -0500 From: DE Johnson Subject: Re: no gg: Renaissance "Jerry McCarthy" wrote: >Annie:..."If anything, we should have gone back to the original concept >of the music and tried to bring that into the '80s rather than trying >to do something totally different. We should have done what we were good >at, which was progressive classical-style stuff." (DJ)I could have had a V-8! DJ/CiViLiAN/le Uncroyable M. Personne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:04:42 -0500 From: DE Johnson Subject: gg: MontRe: ux und Jazz (or He ain't no chipmunk!) "Reginald Dunlop" wrote: >Hello Giants! Hail yeah! >Hack(Reg) here. I'm hackin' on as usual. :) Furball anyone? >Anyway...I went to the Detroit Montreux Jazz Festival this past Sunday... >...Elvin Jones puts all Prog. weenies to shame. :) (C)Loox like Reg/Julian has discovered live jazz (heh)? There are several (i)amazing jazz players. Elvin is certainly up there at the top. Your comments (V)remind me of the time I saw/heard Ed Thigpen here in town. I recorded his (i)combo (on my cheap four-track Fostex (only thing I had at the time)) and (L)he asked me for a copy. The next day he flattered me with compliments and (i)such, asking, "...how did you get that sound out of that little box?" (A)I think it was Metamucil (sorry...)... >My next concert I will attend will be in Detroit. Check out this line-up: > >Max Roach - DRUMS >Geri Allen - PIANO, KEYBOARDS >Vernon Reid - GUITAR (N)Dig it... >Oh my goodness! Are you drooling Fuse-bros? It's cooler to be a jazz-cat >than it is to be a Fuse-bro. ;) (DJ)...all a matter of open yawn... DJ/CiViLiAN/le Uncroyable M. Personne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 11:18:55 -0500 From: DE Johnson Subject: gg: Boox (or Buchs?) "Mark L. Potts" wrote: >Hey Y'all, Hail yes? >...What book are you reading at the moment? (D)I'm usually reading three or more boox for various reasons, plus all (E)the other crap that I _have_ to read. Currently, the boox 'on my plate' (J)are: Herman Melville's "The Ambiguities" (wonderful stuff!) Gloria Farley's "In Plain Sight" (I dig the rebus, man...) J.H. Kwabena Nketia's "The Music of Africa" (highly rec'd!) Roger Bowers' "English Church Polyphony" ...and a few scores including: Bach's "Inventions" and Z's "Die Soldaten" (I can't speak highly enough of both!!) >And what was the book you read before that? Karl H. Worner's "Stockhausen" (interesting read) Joan Peyser's "The New Music" (a bit old, but decent) ...and other stuff, mainly score-reading (timp pieces and 20thc. worx) >I have just finished reading a light-hearted little book called Plague, >Pestilence and Pox (Yes, it is about exactly what it says in the title!) and >am on with Caleb Carr's sequel to The Alienist, Angel of Darkness (a good >old crime novel set in 1897 NYC). (D)Thanx for asking and starting this thread! I think these sorts of things (E)are excellent thread material. I enjoy seeing what others on the list are (J)reading. DJ/CiViLiAN/le Uncroyable M. Personne ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:43:27 -0300 From: "Daniel V.Gomes" Subject: gg: Yes set list In Brazil Hello I went to see Yes last September 8 and set list was (not necessarily in this order): Old songs: - - Yours is No Disgrace - - America - - Perpetual Burn - - I've Seen All Good People - - Owner Of A Lonely Heart - - Hearts - - Awaken - - Roundabout New Songs: I only got to hear the title of two: "Lightning Strikes" and "Homework".They played another 3, one of them I recall Jon was singing something like "Pain Of Salvation". The other two were an acoustic piece (howe on mandolin and Squire playing bass pedals) and another one on the encore. Ahh Between the music, while Anderson was talking to the audience they played some little seconds of Close to The Edge, Tales From Topographic Oceans, Time And A Word. And every time they announced a new song (from the new album The Ladder, Jon always asked the audience to excuse them because they were testing the new songs alive and it was actually one of the first times they were playing them). I think these new songs were amazing. At least Homework and that one I said Jon was singing "pain of salvation". Awaken and Roundabout were the high points of the night. Awaken was like a dream that came true to me. seeya Daniel - -- [[Daniel V.Gomes (aka Aragorn)]] [[ email : jcg@laser.com.br]] " There is a darkness greater than the one we fight. It is the darkness of the soul that has lost its way. Greater than the death of flesh is the death of hope, the death of dreams. Against this foe we can never surrender.... " (J. Michael Straczynski) [[ http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Corridor/8551 ]]Personal Page ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:48:18 EDT From: SPBrader@aol.com Subject: Re: gg: re: First 45; books Pottsie-boy asks da questions: << What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right now but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag, whatever? And what was the book you read before that? >> Right now, 'A Small Town in Germany' by John Le Carre. Before that 'Sunset Limited' by James Lee Burke. Si n.p. Jon Anderson : Chagall ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:15:23 -0700 From: "Scott Steele" Subject: gg: L Shankar; 3 Dog Night; Hot Rats for kids; 7 Fusebros; Capt Beyond!; Summers/Baked Potato; books >On another topic entirely, a few weeks ago I found a used lp by L Shankar. It was produced by FZ himself. He co-wrote 2 of the songs (No more Mr. Nice Girl and I forgot the second title), Dead Girls of London >and FZ wrote most of the lyrics. No so interesting except for the 2 FZ contributions. Obviously. He should have played on it though because the guitar player (don't recall his name at the moment) did not really succeed in is Zappaism. I like Little Stinker, where Simon Phillips does his Simon Phillips thing. >>the best 3 Dog album is Captured Live at the Forum. >Now you're talking! I actually prefer the live 2LP Around The World With... to their abbreviated Forum set, but in either flavor Three Dog Night were a *kicking* live band. The organ player was el-supremo. Chest Fever was very good on that record. >Hot Rats is also a fairly good album for youngsters No words though! Except Willie the Pimp which is not good for 9 year olds. >>There are six Fusebros now: P-Frank, Lindsey, Bill T, Jeff, me, and ClaudioDan. >Waaahhh! I wanna be a Fusebro too!! Didn't I mention Vertu in my very first O-R posting??? Oh my gosh - what a terrible omission. There are now seven Fusebros: P-Frank, Lindsey, Dok, Bill T, Jeff, ClaudioDan, and Steele-y Non-Dan. >I was randomly searching the net for old bands last night and checked out "Captain Beyond". Lo and Behold, I found two large websites and news that they have somewhat reformed and played gigs in Florida and a Festival in Sweden this summer. I sure hope they are good. I think the world is ready for them this time!! ;) Thanks Der Skull. >I'm seeing Andy Summers at the Baked Potato (Studio City) on Friday the 10th Please write and tell us about the new Baked Potato and whether you can turn around in there. The old Baked Potato was so gosh darned small. Interesting that Andy is playing at the tiny little BP and Sting plays in soccer stadiums. >and McCoy Tyner at the Jazz Bakery on Saturday... McCoy will play enough notes to last you for several months. We saw him last fall and all three members of the trio were amazing. >Now it's your turn...come out of the closet... Yes. Lurkers come out come out whoever you are. Tell us what you're listening to right now. Right now I am listening to the first CD in the PFM box set. Fusebro 6Dan6 writes: >Methinks we should start our own digest and leave these poor folks alone! No, we need to be Fusion Evangelists. Now everyone go home, listen to Vertu, and burn a stick of incense until the lost Mahavishnu record comes out. >Fabio Katz been playin' since they's babies . . . >What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right now but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag, whatever? A Confederacy of Dunces. I forget the author's name though. It's hilarious. >And what was the book you read before that? Jazz Rock: A History by Stuart Nicholson. Worth what I paid for it but had a lot of wrong things in it too. - S. np: Jesters (McMenamin's Marching Band) recorded live on KMHD 89.1 Portland OR scottst@ohsu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:30:27 -0400 From: "Yurchison, Gerry" Subject: gg: Incense > until the lost Mahavishnu record comes out. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:32:55 -0700 From: William Tindall Subject: RE: gg: re: First 45; books Thunderthor Sr. asked: << What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right now but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag, whatever?>> Do magazines count? Just got the latest issues of Private Eye (Blair Flies In) and The Cricketer (Nasser Hussain's New England Dynasty), both of which are open... Bookwise, I may not be alone in this, but I usually have anywhere from 3 to 10 or 11 books open at any given time. At this very moment, I'm in the middles of the following: Jack Vance: Night Lamp Gerald Astor: The Mighty Eighth P.G. Wodehouse: The Uncollected Wodehouse Harold Bloom, David Rosenberg (translators from the Hebrew): Book of J Cordwainer Smith: The Best of Cordwainer Smith Jack Vance: Ports of Call Richard Usborne: After Hours with P.G. Wodehouse Funny blend of war and peace, eh? My first 45 that I bought with my allowance was The Doors - Hello, I Love You, followed shortly by Lady Madonna/ The Inner Light. Boy, was that a million years ago. Bill T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 19:23:09 +0100 From: "Gifford" Subject: gg: noGG re: books 'evening all, >On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Mark L. Potts wrote: > >> I have a question for you peeps out in cyberspace... >> >> What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right now >> but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag, >> whatever? Good one!.......I'm currently on M. Scott Peck: "The Road Less Travelled and Beyond", Irvine Welsh: "The Acid House", Michael Moorcock: "Wizardry and Wild Romance", Anthony Burgess: "A Clockwork Orange" (again), Vonda N. McIntyre: "The Search for Spock", Sogyal Rinpoche: "The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying" and I'm about to start my third attempt (in 15 years) at Isaac Asimov's "Foundation Trilogy". >> And what was the book you read before that? P.G. Wodehouse: "Jeeves and Wooster anthology" volumes 1 & 2, Stephen Fry: "The Liar", Hank Harrison: "The Grateful Dead". >> I have just finished reading a light-hearted little book called Plague, >> Pestilence and Pox (Yes, it is about exactly what it says in the >> title!) I saw a Guardian review of that one. I quite fancy it. Pete. **************************************************************************** **************** Check out the PGRS website: http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~gifford/pages/ **************************************************************************** **************** You can hear Pete's music now!: http://www.mp3.com/PeteGifford **************************************************************************** **** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:04:15 -0700 From: William Tindall Subject: gg: RE: Re: For the head count... Chuck asks: << What I'd like to know (if anyone cares to respond) are what you listers are listening to in the way of pop, rather than prog. There's some awfully good music out there that most of us might not have heard of, ie: Yazbek or Jellyfish. Any suggestions?>> Besides Dave Yazbek (Tock) & Jellyfish (Bellybutton), I can vouch heartily for the following, some of which may be obvious, but hey, you asked for it! ;^) Elliott Smith: XO (A few converts to this one!) XTC: Apple Venus volume anything Owsley: Self-titled. Franks to P-Thanks for this; it's a killer! Nik Kershaw: 15 Minutes. Thanks to Rich H and Si B. "Somebody Loves You" is worth the price of the cd. That's all I can think of at the moment. Ever heard OK Computer by Radiohead? Buy stuff now! (and give me a cut), Bill "Popster" T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:29:23 PDT From: "Dan Weese" Subject: Re: gg: Fabio Katz at Chapters Southkeys, Ottawa, Canada, Fri Sep 10 > >I'll be doing originals and covers (Piazzolla, Bach, Schubert, Telemann, >Gentle Giant, Lennon-McCartney, Santana) arranged for solo Stick np: DiMeola plays Piazzolla. [though not widely heard, and often reviled by old-style tango aficionados, Astor Piazzolla wrote some of the loveliest melodies ever heard. On a personal note, his song Vuelvo al Sur, (I go south), is helping me through a recent grief ] ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:36:42 -0400 From: "David and Stacey Shur" Subject: gg: books > >On Fri, 10 Sep 1999, Mark L. Potts wrote: > >> What book are you reading at the moment? The Magicians of Majipoor by Robert Silverberg. He has been a favorite author of mine since 1965. Excellent science fiction and fantasy. -David Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:39:49 -0400 From: Bob Angilly Subject: Re: gg: Renaissance following - --------------F9FC8D37BACF5A96F8BED4A5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit By the time Renaissance had become big enough to be the main act their music had become very polished and predictable and a warm up act with a little rough enthusiasm would be more likely to impress. I saw National Health under similar circumstances towards the end of their run and they were very competent but fairly predictable jazz/rock. The warm-up act Etron Fou le Loublon blew them away. "Frank B. Carvalho" wrote: > > > >I saw Caravan open for Renaissance back in 1973. I had never heard > >Caravan's music, and they blew me away. Renaissance was not in good form > >that night- Annie had a cold, and something went awry with the keyboards, > >and the show was stopped for a while. I eventually lost interest with > >Renaissance after Novella. Caravan remains a perennial favorite, never too > >far from the CD or record player. -David Eric > > This seems like a trend. Maybe the dream gig is as an opener for Renaissance. > All the bands mentioned; Fairport, Caravan, GG seemed to get new fans from being > Renaissance openers. You want fame? Open for Renaissance. > > Cheers > > Frank Carvalho - --------------F9FC8D37BACF5A96F8BED4A5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit By the time Renaissance had become big enough to be the main act their music had become very polished and predictable and a warm up act with a little rough enthusiasm would be more likely to impress.

I saw National Health under similar circumstances towards the end of their run and they were very competent but fairly predictable jazz/rock.  The warm-up act Etron Fou le Loublon blew them away.

"Frank B. Carvalho" wrote:

 

>I saw Caravan open for Renaissance back in 1973.  I had never heard
>Caravan's music, and they blew me away.  Renaissance was not in good form
>that night- Annie had a cold, and something went awry with the keyboards,
>and the show was stopped for a while.  I eventually lost interest with
>Renaissance after Novella.  Caravan remains a perennial favorite, never too
>far from the CD or record player.  -David Eric

This seems like a trend. Maybe the dream gig is as an opener for Renaissance.
All the bands mentioned; Fairport, Caravan, GG seemed to get new fans from being
Renaissance openers. You want fame? Open for Renaissance.

Cheers

Frank Carvalho

- --------------F9FC8D37BACF5A96F8BED4A5-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:01:13 -0500 From: Jim Klocek Subject: gg: No GG: Stand Up; Snipped Tubes > Those days? I'm _still_ sought after! > V-Bert Me, too, but I only take my pants off for one. Jim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:08:34 -0400 From: "David and Stacey Shur" Subject: gg: opening for Renaissance From: Jerry McCarthy > Although many of the openers for them that I saw did either go on to, or > already had, pretty respectable careers, there are also a few who went > into the Where-Are-They-Now? file: > Mike Quatro > Stanky Brown Group MIke Quatro is still a favorite of mine, although I can't find any of his albums on CD yet. I remember the Stanky Brown Group- they were a New Jersey based band. I was working with a singer/guitarist at the time and we did a couple of colleges with them. Thanks for the memories...... -David Eric ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:15:20 EDT From: Dokwebb@aol.com Subject: gg: Pop, Books >What I'd like to know (if anyone cares to respond) are what you listers are >listening to in the way of pop, rather than prog. Wondermints second album Bali due out next Tuesday the 14th on Big Deal! and have also been ingesting Robyn Hitchcock's new one Jewels for Sophia.. >What book are you reading at the moment? I mean not literally, right now >but, you know, is on the coffee table, bedside table, in your bag, whatever? >And what was the book you read before that? The Progressive Rock Files by Jerry Lucky.... and the one just finished...Lost!, A Ranger's Journal of Search and Rescue by Dwight McCarter set in my own neck of the woods - the Smokies! dok ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:29:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Muller Subject: gg: Terrapin CD's Anyone interested in the Terrapin CD's contact: sherij@musicforasong.com All the titles have been shipped back from Spin City to the warehouse. Sheri has access to the entire stock. In some cases quantities are VERY limited. 1st Vertigo Repertoire Octopus Vertigo Civilian TRUCKCD008 Freehand TRUCKCD004 and RGOFCD1004 GFAD TRUCKCD007 and RGOFCD1007 ATT __________________________________________________ FREE Email for ALL! Sign up at http://www.mail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 17:26:47 -0500 From: DE Johnson Subject: gg: We B Sit E (under construction) Hail! My web site is up now, but without soundfiles, some links are broken, and the edits I made today didn't upload. I did, however, tell you all that it would be available today, so...please try: http://216.147.98.217/index.htm ...and please visit: www.raconteurprod.com ...sometime after next Monday to see the site complete. That's when I unveil it to the public! Thanx for giving me your time...more later. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 15:31:52 PDT From: "Dan Weese" Subject: Re: gg: re: First 45; books >What book are you reading at the moment? William Vollmann: The Atlas >And what was the book you read before that? Robertson Davies: Deptford Trilogy np: David Bowie: Earthling ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 18:27:40 -0400 From: Bob Angilly Subject: Re: gg: opening for Renaissance Have a couple of Mike Quatro albums from the seventies and have seen a new (within the last couple of years) one in used stores (been waiting for the price to go down but somebody must have scarfed it during the transition from $1.99 to the Dollar Bin). My favorite one was one for UA where he's in a paisley shirt in front of matching paisley wallpaper and has one of those long titles like: In the Region of the Summer Stars (no, ain't that) In the Court of the Crimson Key (no, ain't that either) On the Way to the Peak of Normal (getting cold) On the Threshold of a Dream (nah) A Nod is Just as Good as a Wink to a Blind Horse (lost the track completely) I'll remember at some point (or cheat and pull out the record, at least I know where I've filed it, Next to the Bonzo Dog and Amon Duul albums). David and Stacey Shur wrote: > From: Jerry McCarthy > > Although many of the openers for them that I saw did either go on to, or > > already had, pretty respectable careers, there are also a few who went > > into the Where-Are-They-Now? file: > > Mike Quatro > > Stanky Brown Group > > MIke Quatro is still a favorite of mine, although I can't find any of his > albums on CD yet. I remember the Stanky Brown Group- they were a New Jersey > based band. I was working with a singer/guitarist at the time and we did a > couple of colleges with them. Thanks for the memories...... -David Eric ------------------------------ End of on-reflection-digest V1 #1859 ************************************