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on-reflection-digest Thursday, September 23 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1877
gg: Re: GORGG T-shirt design
Re: nogg: MIM
Re: nogg: MIM
Fwd: Gorgg: T-shirt (by the Hauster)
gg: Git it out.
Re: gg: Bawdy album covers
Re: nogg: KC in Mexico file format
Re: nongg: Passport
gg: Albums Dad Had
gg: Re: Kottke
gg: Re: Bawdy album covers
gg: bawdy bawdy bawdy
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:04:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: mammienun@webtv.net
Subject: gg: Re: GORGG T-shirt design
The shirt is most excellent. I can't thank you enough Nick. You have
done a wonderful job here. Many thanks again, mammbo.
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Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:08:14 -0500
From: Steve and Terry Lottich
Subject: Re: nogg: MIM
DC666:
>In a message dated 9/22/99 3:56:42 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
>trott@wnt.sas.com writes:
>
><< And how come the year 1999 is MCMXCIX instead of MIM? >>
>
>For all you Roman Numeral fans, it's my understanding that you can use the
>"I" in front of the X, V, L or C but not the D or the M.
There's some implied rule about the subtractive positioning only being
applied up to the next power of ten. So I is only subtracted from V and X
and nothing higher, X is only subtracted from L and C and nothing higher, etc.
Besides, I don't wanna be reminded of the Disney villain Mad Madame Mim.
Yikes!
>Dan VI
Steve 50
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:26:58 EDT
From: WhytePunk@aol.com
Subject: Re: nogg: MIM
In a message dated 09/22/1999 11:14:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,
spoon@avalon.net writes:
><< And how come the year 1999 is MCMXCIX instead of MIM? >>
<< >For all you Roman Numeral fans, it's my understanding that you can use
the
>"I" in front of the X, V, L or C but not the D or the M. >>
Hmmmmmm, I'm not even sure you can use it before the L or C, can you?
..If so, the above year (1999) would be MCMIC 99 is "XCIX" , not "IC" in
the Roman Numeral 1999 (MCMXCIX) I'm thinking also that 49 is XLIX, but I
could be wrong.
Neil
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 00:32:50 EDT
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Just got my GORGGeous T-shirts today. Very cool indeedy. Thanx Nicky!
In case you haven't seen this marvelous creation, check it out at
http://home.sol.no/~vijn/h-gorgg-noflash.htm
Lookin' fwd to seeing y'all in New Yawk for the first
Global On Reflection Giant Gathering,
dave
nw - The official GORGG t-shirt, by Nick (in Fresno) Haus
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:08:14 +0100
From: "Ant"
Subject: gg: Git it out.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Toby Trott
>-My first non-orchestral concert: at age 12, my mother took me to see Herb
Alpert
>at Royal Albert Hall (before they knew how many holes it took to fill it).
She
Were you aver here on a visit or did you live here then?
- ---
>How come nobody here ever raves about Leo Kotke? Doesn't he rate as a
talented
>guitar player as much as a lot of folks that get raved about here? Not that
I'm a
>really big Kotke fan, but I have enjoyed his music, and he seems to have
the chops.
>---
I don't have enough of his music. Love it though. The original "where is the
other guitarist?" guitarist.
Jimi Hendrix is hardly mentioned here either apart from recent arguments
about Fat Mattress.
Ant
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:32:17 +0100
From: "Ant"
Subject: Re: gg: Bawdy album covers
- -----Original Message-----
From: mammienun@webtv.net
>Alan White's solo lp had a really nice piece of artwork on the
.sleeve..not the jacket. It's a picture of an old man...a profile bust if
.you will. His head is made up of nude women. Not really bawdy...more
.artsy. My jap import cd (which BTW is autographed by AW) has the picture
.on a separate insert. The artist was Henry Hodgson. Wish I could give
.you a better descript...mammiedon'tknownun.
Haven't seen this but it sounds like the poster I've seen in monochrome line
art which at the bottom says something like, 'Sigmund Freud - What's on a
man's mind?'
It is clearly a drawing of Freud but also a reclining nude with her pubic
hair as his moustache.
Ant
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:18:13 +0100
From: "Ant"
Subject: Re: nogg: KC in Mexico file format
- -----Original Message-----
From: Toby Trott
>So, I finally managed to download the King Crimson Mexico file
>to my PC here at work, and I somehow figured it was MP3, but it
>says it is a special format that can only be played with that
>Windows Media Player which is NOT available for Macs
>So, does anybody have a clue how this concert might be converted
>to an MP3? Short of that, I suppose I'll have to hook up a my
>cassette recorder to my work computer just to have a portable
>version of this concert to enjoy
Yeah! I downloaded it at work where we have a fast connection (it took 18
minutes). I also can't really crank it up at work (ooer!) so I took the
output of my soundcard into the input of the guy on the next desk's PC while
he was away and recorded it to a WAV file. I then cut it to a CD on his CDR
but once in WAV you could convert it to mp3 with an encoder programme if
your coworker doesn't have a CDR and your company policy doesn't prevent you
loading unauthorised software. Levels are a bit low on this recording
though.
I have listened to this a few times and it is the best giveaway I've ever
had. I would have bought it at full price I reckon, if I'd heard it a few
times before.
Ant
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:08:21 +0100
From: "Fred Rosenkamp"
Subject: Re: nongg: Passport
Aldo wrote:
>I think Fred had the "Doldinger Jubilee Concert" from 1974 (ATL 50 070).
Actually it wasn't me who said I owned "Doldinger Jubilee Concert" (don't
remember who did, though...)
If I remember well, this is the one with the 'Doldinger-as-a-clown' painting
on the cover, isn't it?
The albums I own are:
Passport: Iquaçu (1977), Ataraxia (1978, released in the US as 'Sky Blue'),
Oceanliner (1980), Blue Tattoo (1981).
Klaus Doldinger + Passport: Lifelike (1980, contains live material from '77
and '80).
It has an allstar line up w/Average White Band, Herbie Mann, Jeff Berlin,
Steve Ferrone, Richard Tee, Hamish Stuart, Morrissey/Mullen and the - then -
core Passport line-up: Doldinger, Kevin Mulligan (gtr), Hendrik Schaper
(keys), Dieter Petereit (b), David Crigger (d).
I do not play them very often, maybe once a year, but it's always very
enjoyable stuff to hear again.
Cheers,
Fred
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 07:48:01 -0400 (EDT)
From: dashthecat@webtv.net
Subject: gg: Albums Dad Had
David Loftus wrote that he listened to Blinded by Turds... I just HAD to
wonder about the artwork on that one!
My dad listened to Jo Stafford, Hank Williams, Lefty Frizzell, the
Ventures and Bobby Vinton and the Coasters.. But he also brought home
Rogers and Hammerstein musicals, stories narrated by Basil Rathbone
(what a voice!) and my personal favorite, "21 Years in a Tennessee
Jailhouse" I think by Paul Evans. It was a complilation of prison and
jail folk tunes, some of which were on the gory side. Of course, all 6
of us children had to learn every word to every song and to our mothers
mortification, when we sang, instead a Disney tune we would break into
"I Got Stripes". This could possibly explain why none of us took up a
life of crime!
~Kathy~
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:00:00 -0400
From: "Drew W. Eaton"
Subject: gg: Re: Kottke
- -->From: Toby Trott
>>How come nobody here ever raves about Leo Kotke? Doesn't he rate as a
>talented
>>guitar player as much as a lot of folks that get raved about here? Not
that
>I'm a
>>really big Kotke fan, but I have enjoyed his music, and he seems to have
>the chops.
>>---
Getting the pedantics out of the way first, the spelling is Kottke. We've
got a few Kottke fans on this list. I occassionally see the 6 &12 String
album (sometimes called the Armadillo record) mentioned in the "np"
department but it's the only one. Fans of his music (or fingerstyle
generally) will want to check out a few essentials from his substantial
catalog: Mudlark, Greenhouse, Dreams and All That Stuff, Ice Water, all
originally on Columbia, in addition to the above (orig. released as one of
the earlier Takoma recordings). He was signed to Chrysalis in the mid 70's
and did several fine recordings there but IMO not up to the standards of his
earlier landmark work. There is a compilation of those recordings out now
called "The Essential Leo Kottke" and it is very worth having. He suffered
an almost career ending bout with what I believe ended up being carpal
tunnel syndrome (this about 1979 or thereabouts) but came back with a less
aggressive style that explored the nuances of tone and melody more (no
longer able to produce the highly uptempo style that became his hallmark).
His later career has been quiet, although steady. He has produced a stream
of recordings for the Private Music label. Several of them are quite
pleasant. The first of those IMO is the best of that lot-A Shout Toward
Noon....a recording that was less than well received by critics unfamiliar
with what he had suffered through. His most recent recording for Private is
called something like "Guitar, No Vocals" , a reference to 6 & 12 String
which included no singing (on the back of that album cover Leo described his
voice in the now famous phrase as sounding like "geese farts on a muggy
day".) I played through an advance copy of this and it starts off well
enough before reverting to more of the Private Music doldrums that
characterize many of these recordings (and it doesn't have any lyrical
content to help it out). My advice to people wanting to experience Kottke
at this stage of his career would be to catch him live. He is still an
outstanding entertainer, very humorous and self-effacing. He mixes his
material well and will still ratchet up the tempo for a song or two
(although he'll never play like he did in the old days). A class act
through and through.
Anton added:
>
>I don't have enough of his music. Love it though. The original "where is
the
>other guitarist?" guitarist.
Fingerstylists will elicit that response from you. It's because they're
playing an independent alternating bass line with their thumb anchoring what
can be rather dense chords (they do have four fingers-usually-although
typically only three are used). When the tempo starts kicking in there's a
lot going on. Then we can get into the "tappers" like Tuck Andress,
Michael Hedges, and others and that's another thing...."that's ONE
guitarist???"
>Jimi Hendrix is hardly mentioned here either apart from recent arguments
>about Fat Mattress.
A shame too. I just saw the video of him at Woodstock. Fabulous
performance. His performance there of Isabella is one of my faves by him.
Drew
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 07:58:32 -0400 (EDT)
From: mammienun@webtv.net
Subject: gg: Re: Bawdy album covers
The AW sleeve isn't the Freud pic Ant described. No pubic mustache. No
one else has this album? Danno? It's really not all that bad once you
get to know it...though I was thoroughly disappointed when I 1st heard
it. Mammbo.
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 08:56:25 -0400
From: Richard Hilton
Subject: gg: bawdy bawdy bawdy
At 8:47 PM -0700 9/22/99, DE Shur wrote:
>So, are we going to do a thread on "wicked covers?" I've got a picture disc
>single from 1979 by 2 English girls called Blonde on Blonde, who posed
>topless.
If you show up with this at GORGG, I'm buying your first drink.
Best,
Rich
Richard Hilton/Boppybop Toons Inc.
http://members.aol.com/hiltonius/BTI_page.html
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