Subj: on-reflection-digest V1 #1882
Date: 9/26/99 6:02:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time
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on-reflection-digest Sunday, September 26 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1882
Re: gg: Re: "The Fragile"
gg: obscure mellotronics
gg: No GG: Is that a Gap poncho?
gg: King Crimson in Concert?
gg: Re: King Crimson: Live in Mexico City
Re: gg: Re: King Crimson: Live in Mexico City
gg: RE: Parental music
Re: nogg: Chock full o' nits and other stuff
gg: Parental music
Re: gg: Parental music
gg: T-Dream
gg: Spocks Beard or a goatee?
gg: King Crimson: Live in Mexico
gg: bawdy album covers
Re: gg: King Crimson in Concert?
gg: keneally - GG reference
gg: Beard bits and Tick talk
RE: gg: Oldest Instrument Found in China
gg: I...can't....stop...myself...
gg: Re: an old post
At 6:00 AM -0700 9/25/99,
owner-on-reflection-digest@lists.uoregon.edu (on-reflection-di wrote:
>Pinder did some definitive work on the 'Tron (makes sense since he worked
>for the company!), but there is so much orchestration (real & synthesised)
>on those Moodies album that (imo) it might be more difficult for someone who
>has "never heard a 'tron" to pick it out from everything else that's going
>on
This is my problem with "Watcher of the Skies" as well.....on that
intro, Tony is playing organ with his left hand and mellotron with
his right. It's not as easy to discern the sound of the mellotron by
itself with this as it is on the KC stuff.
Anyway, I think "Strawberry Fields Forever" is the easiest and
quickest way to get familiar with the mellotron.
Best,
Rich
PS - Strawbs albums, Blue Weaver period, are another good place to
get a feel for the sound of the 'tron.
Richard Hilton/Boppybop Toons Inc.
http://members.aol.com/hiltonius/BTI_page.html
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:20:41 -0500
From: Jim Klocek
Subject: gg: No GG: Is that a Gap poncho?
<
there.
P-Frank>>
"I'm the slime oozin' out from your TV set".
Course, I always thought the slogan "Fall into the Gap" was bawdy, myself.
Jim
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:51:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: dashthecat@webtv.net
Subject: gg: King Crimson in Concert?
I have heard that King Crimson is supposedly going to perform in
Nashville in November. Does anyone have any further details on this,
the location, and ticket availablity?
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 12:54:41 -0400
From: Jim Mercer
Subject: gg: Re: King Crimson: Live in Mexico City
The King Crimson Live in Mexico City file is EXCELLENT!!! It's a MUST HAVE!
I was able to download it from http://drm.goestoeleven.com/wm/dgm/
You will also need the LATEST VERSION of Windows Media Player to listen to it.
In addition, you must go into Media Player and make sure it's the default
application for listening to the file types '.wma'. (My computer was defaulting
to Winamp)
Then, to add insult to injury, the first time you try to open the file, your
computer will contact the web site that you downloaded from to verify licensing.
After that, it should play fine.
It's kind of a bummer that the file isn't broken down into separate tracks. It's
just the whole concert, but it's King Crimson at their absolute finest.
I guess it's time to crack Microsoft's watermark on these file types so we can
finish the production of files like these.
I recommend this file HIGHLY. Even if you're on a modem, spend the 2 hours to
download it. It's well worth the effort.
Jim Mercer
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 20:51:12 +0100
From: "Fred Rosenkamp"
Subject: Re: gg: Re: King Crimson: Live in Mexico City
>The King Crimson Live in Mexico City file is EXCELLENT!!! It's a MUST HAVE!
>
>I was able to download it from http://drm.goestoeleven.com/wm/dgm/
>
>You will also need the LATEST VERSION of Windows Media Player to listen to it.
Yeah, great.
But I'm out here staring at my Mac :-(
My parents didn't play all that much recorded music when I was growing up,
probably because the turntable on their old stereo was shaky and it would
skip when my sister or I ran boisterously down the hall. If a record were
playing, we were always told to walk quietly, so as not to make it skip.
Needless to say, I much preferred it when my mother would play live piano
music (Mozart's "Turkish Rondo" and Bach's "Italian Concerto" were two
favorites, and in the early 70's she went through a Scott Joplin phase)
because I could (and did!) dance wildly around the room. My father liked to
listen to the Metropolitan Opera on Saturday afternoons, which wasn't to my
taste as a young child -- too many upset-sounding voices -- so I tried to be
outside when that was on, which made it a surprise to me a few years later
when I was taken to see Mozart's _The Magic Flute_ and loved it! He had
played saxophone in high school but didn't have one, so my live music
memories from him when growing up are primarily of his booming bass voice
singing in church. He loved to put in extra grace notes on some of the hymn
tunes -- "O Quanta Qualia" is a 17th-century French tune that lends itself
to that treatment -- and so I came to enjoy vocal grace notes long before I
ever heard the middle part of "On-Reflection."
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 18:12:01 +0000
From: Toby Trott
Subject: Re: nogg: Chock full o' nits and other stuff
Wacky Racontuers
Amienunmay etortedray:
> Et tu Brutus. The Romans and their numerals and the Latins and their
> pigs. I was making a funny...you don't think I'm that ignit...does ya?
> Damn double dippers..worse than the lurkers...and sneakier, too. q;^()>
Even worse: double dipper lurkers.
Then there's double dipper lurker newbies.
Obytay
@omehay I'm tjtrott@mindspring.com and orkway I'm trott@sas.com
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 20:34:07 -0400
From: "David and Stacey Shur"
Subject: gg: Parental music
My father was a cantor, so there was a lot of music. As soon as I could
play piano, I was accompanying my father with various classical music. He
regularly played WQXR-FM, a New York City classical music station on the
weekends. Our first record player was an RCA Victor Golden Throat Victrola,
a unit which was a TV set. Under the tube was a drawer with the record
player inside, which you would pull out, and load with records. After a few
years, my brother and sister would also be playing. We all played piano, my
brother and I practiced our woodwinds, and my sister her flute. In 1965 we
got our first stereo. My mother would play her Here Come Barbara!
(Streisand) record during the day. She only listened to that one
record. Those were the days..... -David Eric
>Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 18:35:20 -0400
>From: "David and Stacey Shur"
>Subject: gg: Tangerine Dream
>
>Jonathan Roberts wrote:
>> I walked straight to a record
>> shop and bought .
>
>I remember that album. The vinyl was so scratchy, that it ruined the quiet
>mellotron parts. I liked the drawings on the cover better. T Dream got
>better in the mid to late 80's, but then I got bored with them. Should I
>revisit???? -David Eric
Hey Dave and O-R,
I'd try "Rockoon"...someone stole my tape a coupla years ago...gotta
replace it with a CD...60% of it was EXCELLENT the rest was sorta "snoozy"!
Edgar's kid plays on it, a woman plays sax, and a pretty good guitarist
helps out on the rockin tracks!
Best Regards,
Dr. Skull
Albert "Skip" Rizzo, Ph.D.
Research Assistant Professor
Integrated Media Systems Center
and School of Gerontology
University of Southern California
3715 McClintock Ave. MC-0191
Los Angeles, CA. 90089-0191
IMSC: A National Science Foundation Engineering Research Center at USC
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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 99 21:10:14 -0400
From: kiirja
Subject: gg: Spocks Beard or a goatee?
This info was sent to me by Dave Bradley (db65@mdc.net) to pass on to you
Reflectioners and other interested facial hair fans. ;-)
- -------
Spock's Beard/Live at the Whiskey and Nearfest - Recorded at the Whiskey
in
Los Angeles, May 11, 1999 and Nearfest, Moravian College, Bethlehem, PA,
June 27, 1999. "Well, here it is....the real deal. These recordings were
made straight off the board with no mixing or overdubs after the fact (we
would have fixed 'em but the multi-track tapes were screwed up!) So
we're
stuck with what we acutally did! Oh My God!!! The only changes that were
made were a few edits and some EQ, other than that, these are the
unadulterated performances by Spock's Beard and soundman."
Spock's Beard/Live at the Whiskey ....VHS-NTSC and PAL - Spock's Beard
from
a live performance videotaped at the Whiskey in Los Angeles, May 11, 1999
Neal Morse/Neal Morse - Neal says of his new album: "It was a lot of fun
doing it, but, scary.....you know? It was weird not having anyone to
bounce
any ideas off of. But it was a gas playing all the parts. I love to
play....I'll admit it! You can expect to hear a wide variety of styles.
There's piano oriented pop songs, guitar heavy ones like Tom Petty or
something, some Spock's sounding stuff....all in all there's 7 regular
songs
and one 23:00 long progressive thing called "A Whole Nother Trip."
Actually
I just said that for people who are listening to the album and haven't
heard
Spock's Beard....for Spock's Beard fans it won't be a surprise! It's a
really cool album, if I do say so myself, and I hope people dig it."
- ----------------
kiirja
nw: just my extra-large GORGG T!
np: Michael Manring: Thonk
nd: Lindeman Southeastern Australian Chardonnay
currently re-learning: The flute parts from the ItCotCK album,
and the guitar parts from Blind Faith.
recently restored: my website: http://www.mindspring.com/~kiirja
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 01:26:24 +0200
From: casglatze@t-online.de (casglatze)
Subject: gg: King Crimson: Live in Mexico
Hi, fellow O-Rers,
thanks for pointing me to the right website to download the KC Mexico show.
However, another problem occured - maybe you encountered it, too.
After downloading the show, I wanted to play it - however, I got an error
message that there was some problem with the licensing. No idea what that was
all about.
Any ideas? Any help?
I'm starting to get pissed off with that show before having heard one note.
We must include Ween "Chocolate and Cheese" on the list of bawdy
covers.
bert
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 00:01:40 EDT
From: PKANE69@aol.com
Subject: Re: gg: King Crimson in Concert?
The King Crimson debut will commence in May of 2000 according to Fripp's
latest diary entry @ DGM. Adrian Belew & Trey Gunn feel its too soon this
November.
As we all know, Mike Keneally is a GG fan as evidenced by his participation
in Giant Tracks.
I was surfing his web site, specifically checking out his diary from the
1988 Zappa Tour when I came upon this entry talking about a post-concert
night/morning at the hotel:
"We talked about Gentle Giant and I played a bunch of Gentle Giant songs on
guitar while Scott (Martin) dug on it"
Not incredibly noteworthy, but it's always fun to see GG mentioned in a
casual conversation taking for granted that the reader will know who the
hell GG is.
Brad
nd: Shiner Bock (many!)
np: JT - Roots to Branches
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 03:45:55 -0500
From: Steve and Terry Lottich
Subject: gg: Beard bits and Tick talk
kiirja:
>
>This info was sent to me by Dave Bradley (db65@mdc.net) to pass on to you
>Reflectioners and other interested facial hair fans. ;-)
>-------
>
>Spock's Beard/Live at the Whiskey and Nearfest - Recorded at the Whiskey
>in
>Los Angeles, May 11, 1999 and Nearfest, Moravian College, Bethlehem, PA,
>June 27, 1999. "Well, here it is....the real deal. These recordings were
>made straight off the board with no mixing or overdubs after the fact (we
>would have fixed 'em but the multi-track tapes were screwed up!) So
>we're
>stuck with what we acutally did! Oh My God!!! The only changes that were
>made were a few edits and some EQ, other than that, these are the
>unadulterated performances by Spock's Beard and soundman."
Being a facial hair afficionado, I don't wish to detract from any CD sales,
but for the curious, the NEARfest gig from which part of this CD is culled
can be heard at http://www.studiomlive.com. They also have a show very
close (May 17) to the other one here.
Speaking of facial hair, I trimmed my goatee a couple of weeks ago, and
ashamedly I forgot to notify you good people of the momentous occasion.
Very sorry for the belated Facial Hair Update, and I'll try to keep future
FHUs timely! Especially the upcoming (only 2 months away!) traditional
autumnal transition to full beard...
_ _ _
Tick fans:
Comedy Central still runs these, but only 2wice a week: Saturday
night/Sunday morning at 2:30 AM US Central Time, and Sunday night at 11:30
PM, also USCT.
Spoon!
Steve LotTick
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 02:23:36 PDT
From: "Dan Weese"
Subject: RE: gg: Oldest Instrument Found in China
>And if you'd been listening to NPR's morning edition yesterday morning, you
>would actually have heard it being played! It has 7 or 8 holes [can't
> >remember now] but more than the experts expected, and the intervals
>suggest that the pentatonic scale used in most Eastern music dates back a
>Loooooooong way!
The thing that blew me away was the tune the flautist was playing: the
first two measure or two sounded just like one of the themes from Dvorak's
New World Symphony. The tone sounded just like a human whistling.
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Sorry. This is obligatory: New reissues of Davey Graham just received
from Mod Lang in Berkeley: Godington Boundary on See For Miles and All That
Moody on Rollercoaster. Both are terrific. The former includes A lot of
Davey playing electric in a small combo doing some fairly straight and some
not-so-straight jazz :-)....and I thought I'd heard it all from him!
I feel better now. ;-)
Drew
np-np- Davey Graham-Godington Boundary
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 08:57:26 -0400
From: "Drew W. Eaton"
Subject: gg: Re: an old post
Going through old posts I hadn't gotten to while I was on holiday and found
this one from Lindsey Spratt:
>
>I'm on this list because the other folks are so peculiar.
Hey! We wear that one like a badge of honor! Come to GORGG and check out
how peculiar we can be in person!
Drew
still playing- Davey Graham
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