on-reflection-digest    Wednesday, October 6 1999    Volume 01 : Number 1899



gg: Re: Dropping some NYC
Re: gg: RE: Re: Carpet crawlers
no gg: Gorgg site last update (from my hand)
RE: gg: re: Dropping some NYC
gg: Awaken; OOTF; Sinks; numbers; Fleck; Purple 30th Anniv; country gig; Yes; my old bands; knife fight
gg: Re: on-reflection-digest V1 #1898
gg: TMB
Re: gg: "If it moves, smash it!" (or "If it doesn't move, smash it!")
Re: gg: Two Weird Comments...
Re: gg: the, excuse me, what? of music
gg: No GG: Superman Can Fly; Music of My Youth
Re: gg: No GG: Superman Can Fly; Music of My Youth
gg: RE: on-reflection-digest V1 #1896
gg: Re: no-gg, knife fight
gg: Woody Woodbury, Frisell, DP, Digi Mania
gg: Fugazi talks
gg: No GG: Superman Can Fly
gg: Question
Re: gg: RE: Re: Carpet crawlers
Re: gg: re: Dropping some NYC
gg: Smash it! (or not)
gg: Breuker Really Big Shoe (Breuker 19?)
gg: The Lamb LIVE!!!
Re: gg: re: Dropping some NYC
gg: The tension builds....

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:02:26 EDT
From: SPBrader@aol.com
Subject: gg: Re: Dropping some NYC

David Eric writes:

<< Although I must admit that NYC has really gotten cleaned
 up in the midtown area since The Lamb Lies Down....   It's clean, there are
 few visible drunks, porno shops are more discreet, and there are no filthy
 smelly wino's attempting to clean your automobile windshield for a
 buck...... >>

Seems like a niche marketing opportunity. Get roaring drunk and clean 
windshields with a porn mag.

Hey...I need the money!

Si

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 06:42:45 PDT
From: "Brad Oldham" 
Subject: Re: gg: RE: Re: Carpet crawlers

Hail,

Daniel Potvin wrote:
>
>Speaking of the musical box  anyone out there ever saw them live...Daniel

I saw them once.  My wife and I made the trip from Texas to Montreal for 
their final performance (or at least the last performance of SEBTP) last 
November.  It was an incredible performace.  I never got to see Genesis in 
the Gabriel days, so the TMB concert was like going back in time to see a 
concert I missed during my childhood.

Supposedly, TMB is still investigating several factors, including obtaining 
legal releases, in regards to performing the Lamb.

Brad

np:  Squeeze - East Side Story

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:45:16 +0100
From: "Jorunn Nome & Bert Vijn" 
Subject: no gg: Gorgg site last update (from my hand)

Hi all y'all,

Just made the last adjustments to the Gorgg website.

New entries must be announced on O-R now. Had no time to make arrangements with
anybody. I hope somebody will assume responsibility for taking them into the
mailing list. Following, entry is now only open to O-R readers. Hard, but
necessary. I tell ya, guys, this saves a lot of time these last hectic days.

The bus fare IS now $2.55  :^)  Sorry guys -- my mistake totally. Just found my
notes. It clearly said $2.55.

From now on it's up to the guys with my passwords to make to the Gorgg site.
(Thanks for keeping the html that simple, Jer. It works great.)


I'll be travelling in less than 12 hours. NYC-ya soon!
v-bert
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http://home.sol.no/~vijn/h-gorgg.htm   Gorgg
http://home.sol.no/~vijn/h-gorgg-noflash.htm Gorgg w/o Macromedia Flash
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 08:53:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus" 
Subject: RE: gg: re: Dropping some NYC

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Mark L. Potts wrote:

> >  Roll one for me! >>
> >
> > Roll what?
> >
> > A snowball?
> > A Swiss?
> > A Jelly?
> > A Bank?
> > A Stone?
> >
> > What can he mean?
> 
> Si,
> 
> Neil Cassady said it best: No left turn unstoned.
> 
> A puff of Kief in the morning makes a man as strong as a thousand 
> camels in the courtyard,


Interesting that Cassady should pop up here today.  Last night I downed 
three pints with a 70-year-old man who used to hang out with the Beats, 
especially the San Fran-Ferlinghetti crowd, but he said he had met 
Kerouac, Ginsberg, Burroughs and the rest.  (He was drinking iced tea 
and water.)  He said Cassady was a real asshole, and the published 
letters were a total crock with their frequent references to Proust, he 
said.  Someone else had put those in there.  He had met several of the 
women who had typed up Cassady's letters and they told him they had put 
in stuff themselves.  What a night!


David Loftus

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:10:45 -0700
From: "Scott Steele" 
Subject: gg: Awaken; OOTF; Sinks; numbers; Fleck; Purple 30th Anniv; country gig; Yes; my old bands; knife fight

>I think the best song of the concert was "awaken".

You have many Yes-friends on this list who agree with you about that song.

>On Saturday I bought "Out of the fire":  is excellent!

I agree - this is as good as anything they have ever released.

>Well, my old friend John Sinks

takes wonderful pictures of ProjeKCt 4 (among his other well-dispatched duties) on the new KCCC release, "The Roar of P4".

>I'd like to see anyone play Zappa without "numbers".  Just "feel" 
it.....start with "The Black Page".  Then switch to GG and play "As Old As You're Young" and "So Sincere" for an encore......then over to "Dance of the Maya" by Mahavishnu......

Those are some of my favorite numbers.  They are prime numbers, even.  THX 1138.

>>Does anyone have Tales from the Acoustic Planet Vol 2?

>Yup.

Smarty.  Is it any good?  The lineup of bluegrass fusion stars looks quite excellent.

>Thor here just wanting to post a little review of the Purps RAH bash.

Thanks dude!  I am so jealous.

>Steve Morse, ably assisted by the superbly talented Dave LaRue and Van Romaine treated us to Night meets Light and a truly stunning (and most unexpected) Take it off the Top.

And - you recorded this and can share it with us all.  Right?  Or - they did, spared no expense, and it's coming out in about three weeks?

Please?

>Now I'm not one for displays of emotion of that type

C'mon, all that god-of-thunder stuff is a big front - you're just a big softy.

>but I have to admit to a very warm fuzzy feeling and undeniable pride at being present at what was a truly historic event.

I'm jealous.

>Ian Paice and Van Romaine on drums, Rog and Dave LaRue on basses, RJD and IG on vocals, Steve Morse and Steve Morris on lead guitars, Jon Lord on Organ, Mickey Lee Soule and Pete Brown (yes that Pete Brown!) on Pianos and every one else I've already mentioned. And, yes you guessed it another standing ovation as it took a hell of a long time for everyone to get off the stage!!

I am glad that Morse's organization is becoming interwoven with the Deep Purple umbrella - what a powerful alliance.

>All in all it lasted three hours. It took me 4.5 hours to get there and three hours to get home again. God, am I glad I went though.

A full day's work!

>Friday sees me in London for Colosseum at the Astoria and Saturday Jeff Beck at the Shepherds Bush Empire.

That will also be an in-your-face weekend.

>After playing country/rock throughout the summer with a band leader with whom life is happier without, you can't believe how relieved I am to be able to kick back, relax, use the computer and get _paid_ for a change.

I think it is a young man's rite of passage to play country music with a bad band leader.  ;)

>np: Yes - The Ladder

Is this any good?  ;)

>(D)Perhaps that's a thread...what kinds of bands were you in when you were (O)younger...

Popular rock and roll re-creations.  A country band with a bad bandleader, this was as my son was born 18 years ago.  Lots of fusion bands that broke up quick because it took too long to learn that music and we couldn't make any money doing it.  I have never been in a prog-rock band, so I don't know what it's like to cover Siberian Khatru.  Bummer.  Right now I'm in a free music band, a marching band that plays James Brown and Horace Silver and the like, a Caribbean/Latin jazz band, an acoustic guitar singer songwriter duo, and a four piece rock band playing old faves.

>how did that influence who you are musically (listening and performing) today...

dunno!  I guess I'm not objective enough to address that.

>do you wish you would have done anything differently...

I would have gotten a gig mentor.  I would have practiced harder.  I would have gotten a teacher who really understood and encouraged what I liked and what I wanted to do.  I would be a better treble-clef reader.  I would have spent a lot more money on equipment.

>Someone mentioned Coryell & Mouzon? One of the worst shows I ever saw was one they did. A knife fight broke out several rows in front of me during the show and they didn't even stop. Utter garbage.

There is a school of thought among bar-band musicians that the worst thing you can do is to stop playing while there is a fight going on.

>Someone else mentioned Jeff Beck. He's got a sister named "Bada," no?

Yes.  She's way into prayer.  - S.

np:  Bruford Live 1980 (they really rearranged the songs from Gradually Going Tornado, and the vocal performances are quite good!)

scottst@ohsu.edu

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:47:29 -0700
From: "Scott Steele" 
Subject: gg: Re: on-reflection-digest V1 #1898

>Phish already seem(s) to have broken some rules and assumed barriers by playing music that is challenging and different, but, at the same time, popular (to this youth culture, particularly).

Bravo - a band whose popularity might be partially due to not underestimating its audience.  They should be popular with GG fans then.

>- -Mike Hampton, Houston Astros' winningest pitcher for a single season (22 wins in 1999), as well as club record holder for hits by a pitcher (23 hits in 1999)

Didn't he hit about .280 this year?  There was one year where Don Drysdale was often used as a pinch hitter by the Dodgers, partly because Drysdale was an OK hitter, partly because the Dodgers were not a good hitting team that year.  At all.

>Roll what?

>A snowball?
>A Swiss?
>A Jelly?
>A Bank?
>A Stone?

>What can he mean?

A curious custom, unique to New York.  Jerry will show you.  - S.

np:  Earthworks, All Heaven Broke Loose

scottst@ohsu.edu

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 14:24:26 -0400
From: dastley 
Subject: gg: TMB

Hi all,

>Speaking of the musical box  anyone out there ever saw them live...Daniel

Yes,I've seen them live 7 times,they dont come any other way...

Dave Sr.mature student

:got to go pick up the Ant now at the airport..

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 20:58:12 +0100
From: manso@ozet.de (Ansorge)
Subject: Re: gg: "If it moves, smash it!" (or "If it doesn't move, smash it!")

DE Johnson wrote:
> 
> "Dan Weese"  wrote:
> >...A great mathematician, Bertrand Russell, said that music was
> >counting without numbers...
> 
> (D)Must not have experienced the music of Ferneyhough, Carter, etc.
> (E)(I have no idea when Russell was alive, so I'm not assuming he
> (J)had the chance to hear any of this music.)

You mean that in their case it's counting *with* numbers? 

Sorry, only reheating those chips on some shoulders...
 

Matthias

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 20:58:42 +0100
From: manso@ozet.de (Ansorge)
Subject: Re: gg: Two Weird Comments...

Jonathan Roberts wrote:
> 
> 
> Someone else mentioned Jeff Beck. He's got a sister named "Bada," no?

Flueta.
 
> Best,
> 
>                  -- Jon

Second best...

Matthias

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 20:58:26 +0100
From: manso@ozet.de (Ansorge)
Subject: Re: gg: the, excuse me, what? of music

Toby Trott wrote:
> 
> Wacky racontuers
> 
> Rich H. responded to Dan Weese about the technology and physics of
> sound:
> >>The highest audible frequency, 20 kHz, is actually beyond the range
> >>of most humans
> >
> >There is a lot of discussion about human perception exceeding the
> >theoretical 20k limit.  I think you know this.....there are many
> >tests that have been done with the filters in digital systems that
> >lend credence to the idea that people do perceive above 20k.
> >
> >>In short, though there might be some benefit in capturing the
> >>non-hearable parts, you can't hear it.
> 
> Well, sounds are made up of not only primary wave forms but many
> secondary waveforms or "harmonics" (except the pure tones produce
> by electronics), and some of these harmonics may actually exceed
> the 20kHz range of human hearing, but at least some theories suggest
> that we still "sense" these harmonic frequencies to the extent that
> we can tell when they are missing, therefore, the lack of "brightness"
> or some similar thing with some instruments on some CD recordings.
> I am certainly no expert,    but I did stay at Holiday Inn once :-)
> This does suggest some value in maintaining ALL frequencies, even
> the ones that "only dogs can hear" supposedly.

You are correct about the cutting of higher partials, BUT: There is no
harmonic timbre with fundamentals in the range above 10 kHz. In fact,
human hearing can not distinguish pitches in that range: ears lose their
precision in recognizing pitch at c. 1kHz. That's why piccolos always
sound a bit off in their higher range (c. 500Hz to 4kHz) and why it
takes a lot of skill to tune a piano correctly up there--either harmonic
octaves (played simultaneously) don't meet (ie., you have beats) or
melodic octaves (successively) seem to be too small. So those really
high orchestral instruments are usually reserved for special effects
(pied piping, ghostly harmonics, shower stabbings etc.)--or else, they
are used to play partials, often higher octaves of a melody in a more
comfortable range.

Btw, those high-register percussion instruments do *not* have harmonic
spectra. That's obvious for cymbals, crotales, chimes and the like,
which produce more or less bands of noise, but it applies to triangle
and glockenspiel as well. And even high-pitched string instruments tend
to have their partials distorted. Much of the specific timbres of high
notes depends on quite different qualities of tone: dynamic envelopes
and peripheral noise from fingers, frets, keys, mallets. To sum up and
mangle an old guitar player joke: very high pitches don't have timbres,
they are the timbre.


Matthias

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:44:34 -0500
From: Jim Klocek 
Subject: gg: No GG: Superman Can Fly; Music of My Youth

<< Therefore, according to him, bees (and Superman, were he real) CAN fly!>>

We know what gave Superman lift (less gravity on Earth than on Krypton) but
how about his forward propulsion?  Beans, perhaps?

<<(D)Perhaps that's a thread...what kinds of bands were you in when you were
(O)younger...what are you doing now...how did that influence who you are
(U)musically (listening and performing) today...do you wish you would have
(G)done anything differently...what one thing would that be...am I asking
(J)too many questions? Perhaps that's plaid instead.>>

I was never in any band...but my brother was and I was included in many of
his practice sessions not because of my ability to play an instrument but
because I was blessed with a fairly decent singing voice. I could do all of
the Graham Nash parts in any CSNY record you name, and was usually featured
in many a choral presentation in grade and high school.  Now I do all of my
singing in the car on the way to work, or to my wife.  Over the years my
contralto has given way to a wider range (probably too many cigarettes) and
can still do a passable Nash but better in the Stills parts but its the Brad
Roberts
(Crash Test Dummies) lows that make my wife all squishy.

Jim

np:  Mixes 67 "Knockin' on Heavens Door", track "Whipping Post"

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 16:16:55 +0000
From: Diana Green 
Subject: Re: gg: No GG: Superman Can Fly; Music of My Youth

hail;
re:


Jim Klocek wrote:

> << Therefore, according to him, bees (and Superman, were he real) CAN fly!>>
>
> We know what gave Superman lift (less gravity on Earth than on Krypton) but
> how about his forward propulsion?  Beans, perhaps?

According to Mr. Byrne, there were two possibilities. One was momentum from
takeoff, which would not have the sustain for flights of extreme duration- he'd
just float after a while. The other possibility was that he actually generated
an anti-gravity field of kind which he could control, similar to flexing a
muscle.
    You can't question the science of him too much. He was invented by a couple
adolescents in the '30s, based loosely on doc Savage and Philip wylie's novel
Gladiator, and written rather quickly. they spent the last 60+ years trying to
get it to make scientific sense.
still,
dg
np: KC: Islands

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 17:57:03 -0400 
From: Toby Trott 
Subject: gg: RE: on-reflection-digest V1 #1896

Wacky Racontuers,

In response to my remark, DJ responded with:
>Toby Trott  wrote:
>>Basically, though, it boils down to: White boys can't dance. 
>
>Rubbish.

Yep. Sure is. I might add "preposterous balderdash" as well.

I apologize for using such subtle sarcasm. 

Toby 

@work, trott@sas.com, but when unleashed from the bonds of the 
workplace, I become tjtrott@mindspring.com.
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:22:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: "David J. Loftus" 
Subject: gg: Re: no-gg, knife fight

On Tue, 5 Oct 1999, Scott Steele wrote:

> >Someone mentioned Coryell & Mouzon? One of the worst shows I ever saw 
> >was one they did. A knife fight broke out several rows in front of me 
> >during the show and they didn't even stop. Utter garbage.
> 
> There is a school of thought among bar-band musicians that the worst 
> thing you can do is to stop playing while there is a fight going on.

To be sure.  There's not telling what the combatants will do if they lose 
their soundtrack.


David Loftus

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:42:46 EDT
From: Dokwebb@aol.com
Subject: gg: Woody Woodbury, Frisell, DP, Digi Mania

>I just have found the perfect girl.
>I cannot ask for more.
>She's deaf and dumb and oversexed
>And runs a liquor store.  - Woody Woodbury.

Scott, you never cease to amaze me!  I haven't heard that name in years!  My 
parents had an album of his with him looking through a keyhole at a barely 
robed female...  can't recall the title though.  Oh how those early 
titillating memories remain in storage until called forth from obscurity to 
delight and please once again! 

Please give us a review of Frisell if you are going...  I saw him perform a 
couple of years ago with his quartet in an old church with about 200 people 
in attendance and couldn't believe my ears!  Telepathic interplay doesn't do 
justice to what I witnessed.  He has two recent releases out now...  a cover 
album of Bacharach and Costellos' Painted from Memory that he arranged and 
recorded before ever hearing their finished product.... and Good Dog, Happy 
Man which is more acoustic in nature but does have Wayne Horvitz on 
keys...and Ry Cooder guests on one track...  a cover of Shenandoah....

Thanks to the ThunderGod for the DP review... you are a lucky Dog i mean God 
indeed!  I have really enjoyed the new version of Purple with Morse but have 
not been able to see them perform live.

Got a couple of responses to the copies of the digital talk from here I sent 
to some recording engineer friends...  One said he already knew most of what 
was being said but that it was a good review!  And the other said quote.... 
"Stay away from audio geeks Dok.  They'll corrupt your mind" ..... Unquote.  
Of course he was only joking.... I think.  The more bits the merrier I'd say!

Richard Thompson in concert this Thursday!

np:  John Cowan

all around,
dok

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:21:41 -0400
From: Daniel Potvin 
Subject: gg: Fugazi talks

> I like Fugazi for the same reasons.  Anyone interested should listen to
> their recent release and their first.  "End Hits" and "13 Songs" and/or
> "Repeater+3 Songs".


I  never heard of them before can someone tell me a little more about this band

Thanks
Daniel

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 20:07:43 -0500
From: Jim Klocek 
Subject: gg: No GG: Superman Can Fly

>>According to Mr. Byrne, there were two possibilities. One was momentum
from
takeoff, which would not have the sustain for flights of extreme duration-
he'd just float after a while.>>

Hmmm...Thinking about this, maybe his momentum did carry him for a while,
after which the curvature of the earth would continuously make him fall.

But then again, maybe not. :)

Jim

np: Edvard Grieg "Morning Mood" from Peer Gynt

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:27:49 -0400
From: Daniel Potvin 
Subject: gg: Question

Hey everyone

 Back in 89 i saw an interview with Jon Anderson and Bill Bruford . Bill 
talked about  hisYESYEARS.

 He said that YES was a progressive-rock band. We all know that of course 
but he also mentioned that        he always hated the word 
progressive-rock.

 Does anyone knows why?          Thanks

 Daniel

 

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:51:50 EDT
From: PKANE69@aol.com
Subject: Re: gg: RE: Re: Carpet crawlers

I saw the Musical Box at club Bene (spelling)? In New Jersey 2 years ago. 
They were pretty good & I enjoyed the lead singers costume changes ala Peter 
Gabriel in his heyday. There is another tribute band called REGENESIS that I 
was told are very good as well.

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 21:59:06 EDT
From: PKANE69@aol.com
Subject: Re: gg: re: Dropping some NYC

Perhaps he meant a joint?

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 21:57:02 -0500
From: DE Johnson 
Subject: gg: Smash it! (or not)

manso@ozet.de (Ansorge) wrote:
>> (D)Must not have experienced the music of Ferneyhough, Carter, etc.
>> (E)(I have no idea when Russell was alive, so I'm not assuming he
>> (J)had the chance to hear any of this music.)
>
>You mean that in their case it's counting *with* numbers? 
>
>Sorry, only reheating those chips on some shoulders...

Hail and huh? 

Apologies if I 'sounded' like I had a chip on my shoulder. My comment was 
directed to what some consider to be an extreme overuse of numbers in the 
music of Ferneyhough, etc. I'm not really sure what I think about it. I 
enjoy some of the music, but I don't pretend to fully understand it.

Douglas E. Johnson, Composer/Interdisciplinary Artist

Please visit my website and check out some of the 
music services I offer as well as my scores, bio, 
soundfiles, etc. at: 

		http://www.raconteurprod.com/

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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 22:38:20 -0500
From: DE Johnson 
Subject: gg: Breuker Really Big Shoe (Breuker 19?)

"Drew W. Eaton"  wrote:
>Hey all... 

Hail yes! 

>...Friday night I was fortunate to have the opportunity to see the 
>Willem Breuker Kollectief.'The secret to great music lies in appeal
>to the intuitive as well as the intellectual listener' he says, 'If 
>my music has such appeal then I consider myself to be a successful 
>composer.  As I've said before, I do take music seriously.  However, 
>I strongly feel that earnestness should be tempered with humor and 
>modesty.  If people think I'm being irreverent, *u** 'em."

Attaboy, Luther!

DJ 

Douglas E. Johnson, Composer/Interdisciplinary Artist

Please visit my website and check out some of the 
music services I offer as well as my scores, bio, 
soundfiles, etc. at: 

		http://www.raconteurprod.com/

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 20:45:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: JohnEric 
Subject: gg: The Lamb LIVE!!!

In response to Daniel's request to here from those that saw The Lamb live
...
I saw Genesis on the Lamb tour.  I managed to get in the third row back,
center, tickets.  I finagled them by going to a large shopping mall ticket
office in Phoenix, AZ where I lived, ten minutes before the box office
officially opened.  They told me that I could not come in until they
opened,
but I genuinely looked as though I needed to use the restroom (someone
give
me an Oscar for this one, please), so they let me in on that premise.  The
box office was directly across the room from the men's room. [Big grin]
<"Mammienun" ... I guess this proves my feck.>    Now, about the concert. 
At
first, I didn't think the singer on stage could possibly BE Peter Gabriel.
His Rael persona was not what I was used to seeing on him.  The music was
tight, quite rightly, but the roadies screwed up on one of the mics, so
about
halfway into Slippermen he Gabriel silent.  Gabe is slick though ... he
grabbed a mic off a stand and shoved it under the costume to finish out
the
song.  Whew.  When Rael sees himself at the end of  The Lamb, you could
have
sworn it was the real Rael ... real Rael :-0 ...  and not a the dummy they
used for this final illusion.  In short, it sounded as good as the studio
release, yet better because I WAS THERE, MAN! ... I WAS FRIGGIN THERE!  I
SAW
...  ...  ... Gabe the man himself, Hackett
(Still sitting on a stool, and wearing long hair and black frame glasses),
Phil's awe inspiring drumset and ability to compete with Neil Peart, Tony
Banks at work, and of course the other guy ... what's his name.  Just
kidding.   I was walking on cloud nine for a year after that concert!

JohnEric

Daniel Potvin wrote:

> Pablo [SMTP:pabloalv@inti.gov.ar] writes:
>  << I heard the new 99 version of carpet crawlers in a broadcast called
> "the musical box" >>
>
> Speaking of the musical box  anyone out there ever saw them
live...Daniel


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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 03:36:21 EDT
From: SPBrader@aol.com
Subject: Re: gg: re: Dropping some NYC

<< Perhaps he meant a joint? >>

A bar?
A knee?
An elbow?

He wants us to roll an elbow for him?

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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 04:16:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: mammienun@webtv.net
Subject: gg: The tension builds....

the excitement mounts! I should be sleeping but I just can't. I'm going
to GorGG! Wow Wee Woo Hoo! Dr....where's my meds? Later, mammie

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