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on-reflection-digest Friday, October 8 1999 Volume 01 : Number 1901
gg: Gladiator, GORGG wishes
no gg: The Musical Box
Re: no gg: The Musical Box
gg: Kevin Gilbert news!
gg: NO-IT'S NOT OK!
Re: gg: NO-IT'S NOT OK!
gg: Re: nogg New prog...Phreeworld
RE: gg: NO-IT'S NOT OK!
gg: Here's a story....
gg: NoGG: Art Farmer, R.I.P.
gg: JB's FF/GW's WS/GORGG
gg: Yes in 2000
gg: NoGG: Cosmos, indeed
gg: RE: NoGG: Cosmos, indeed
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 09:43:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daniel Barrett
Subject: gg: Gladiator, GORGG wishes
On October 5, 1999, Diana Green wrote:
>[Superman was] based loosely on doc Savage and Philip wylie's novel
>Gladiator...
Wow, "Gladiator!" Memories of a fun book. Hard to find, but very
enjoyable for anyone who appreciates a good drama that happens to be about
a (tragic) superhero.
Best wishes to everyone attending GORGG this weekend! Wish I could be
there. Hope you all have a gargantuan time.
Dan
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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 11:05:50 -0400
From: "Jerry McCarthy"
Subject: no gg: The Musical Box
David Eric wrote:
> I tried going into The Musical Box website, but my browser informed me the
> page was removed. I guess they are defunct.
This is not necessarily so. But they certainly are on a "hiatus," at the
very least. There are 2 camps, one that is sure it's over, and another
that thinks that one day they will return majestically to perform The
Lamb. There have even been efforts to organize funds to subsidize a Lamb
show (this type of endeavor may sound eerily familiar to anyone who's
been on O-R for more than 4 years).
The TMB show in Montreal last Fall was never billed as "the last TMB
show," it was "the last time TMB will perform their Selling England By
The Pound show." That was clearly stated on all promotional materials
that I ever saw.
There _has_ been some groundwork-type stuff done by TMB with regard to
The Lamb, including trying to secure the required permissions and rights
to do so. The band has also rehearsed at least some, if not all, of The
Lamb music in the past. But there has been so much rumor, innuendo, and
controversy about their future (even within the band and its crew
themselves) that it's extremely difficult to know what is truth and what
is fiction and/or wishful thinking. I'm just waiting to see how it all
shakes out eventually, myself.
> Thank goodness I got to see
> them do The Selling England By the Pound show in March 1998. It was
> wonderful.
Somebody within the past few days posted something about seeing the Club
Bene show and calling TMB "pretty good." I laughed for a long while
about that one! If TMB is "pretty good," I'd like to see how high the
bar is set for "excellent" -- you'd need the friggin' Keck telescopes in
Mauna Kea to see it! TMB is absolutely & phenomenally wonderful, IF you
are into Gabriel-era Genesis. Short of a time machine, you could not do
better.
Regenesis was also mentioned as another Genesis tribute band. I've heard
them live on record but I've never seen them. To me, while they do a
very creditable job of performing cover versions of Genesis songs, I
never for one second thought I was listening to the actual Genesis.
Regenesis are not even in the same league as TMB *when it comes to the
mimicry aspects*. Understand, this is NOT meant as a putdown, because
mimicry may not be Regenesis' intent, whereas it is the sole mission of
TMB. So it might be an apples/oranges situation.
But close your eyes at a TMB show and it's 1973 again. It's amazing.
> Here is the link- maybe someone else can try.
> www.atreide.net/cshow/musicalbox.com
This site has been down for a while. But there is an eGroups mailing
list dedicated to TMB that has been in operation for the past year or so
which you can check out to stay abreast of developments (if any). It's
located at http://www.eGroups.com/group/the-musical-box/.
But, be forewarned, IMO it's 95% noise and 5% signal. Best part of the
list is when David Myers, TMB's fine keyboardist and resident
web-presence, posts some info straight from the horse's (i.e., band's)
mouth. But that's rather infrequent. Much of it degenerates into the
same crap that destroyed Paperlate years ago, the endless "Phil's a
better singer/no, Pete's a better singer plus Phil's ugly, too" threads
that accomplish nothing but generating hard feelings and ill will.
(Paperlate's saving grace is that it makes me realize how GREAT this
damn list is!)
Gettin' ready to GORGG myself...can't wait!!!!
- --Jerry
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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 20:23:28 +0100
From: "Fred Rosenkamp"
Subject: Re: no gg: The Musical Box
Jerry wrote:
>
>Regenesis was also mentioned as another Genesis tribute band. I've heard
>them live on record but I've never seen them. To me, while they do a
>very creditable job of performing cover versions of Genesis songs, I
>never for one second thought I was listening to the actual Genesis.
>Regenesis are not even in the same league as TMB *when it comes to the
>mimicry aspects*. Understand, this is NOT meant as a putdown, because
>mimicry may not be Regenesis' intent, whereas it is the sole mission of
>TMB. So it might be an apples/oranges situation.
Maybe, I don't know. I haven't heard TMB at all (would be interesting
though), and ReGenesis on 'live' on record only. I will hear them live at
the ProgFarm'99 Festival. If they're anything special I'll let you know.
Cheers,
Fred
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FWIW, this is from ReGenesis' own press release:
'What we do...
We play the music of Genesis, performing material from 'Trespass' to 'The
Lamb Lies Down on Broadway'.
We try to get the music as close as humanly possible to the originals, and
also feature some of the props and costumes from the original show. We
don't, however, try and look like Genesis. Playing the music is hard enough,
without the wigs!
Why we do it...
- - Because we like Genesis
- - Because we're mad
- - Because the music is a challenge to any musician, both technically and in
terms of getting all the right sounds
- -Because Genesis don't play it anymore - not that we have anything against
what they do now, but some of us like to hear 'Supper's Ready' or 'Return of
the Giant Hogweed' live once in awhile!
- - Because a lot of people keep turning up to our gigs!
- -------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 14:26:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Daniel Barrett
Subject: gg: Kevin Gilbert news!
Forwarded from rec.music.progressive:
:The "Giraffe Giraffe" compilation CD and "Kevin Gilbert & Thud Live At
:The Troubadour" will be available for purchase this Saturday at HIGH
:NOON Pacific Time at http://www.kevingilbert.com when the Official Site
:opens.
:
:The Shaming of the True is scheduled to be available for purchase on the
:official site November 1st.
:
:Break out the champagne, guys and gals!
:
:SPECIAL REQUEST FROM JON RUBEN:
:Will those of you who belong to that "other" Kevin Gilbert List, as well
:as any of the other bootleg lists, please cut and paste the above
:announcements and post them on the lists, along with a request to please
:not buy the bootlegs because the REAL THING is available on Saturday,
:and Shaming will be available in early November?
:We sincerely thank you for your loyalty and patience in waiting for
:these CD releases.
I have no further information on this.
Dan
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:43:56 +0100
From: "Mark L. Potts"
Subject: gg: NO-IT'S NOT OK!
...........The Partridge Family?
I'm almost afraid to ask how this started......
Turn off The Waltons!
Thorlina
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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 16:53:06 -0400
From: Tomas
Subject: Re: gg: NO-IT'S NOT OK!
At 07:43 PM 10/7/1999 +0100, Mark L. Potts wrote:
>...........The Partridge Family?
>
>I'm almost afraid to ask how this started......
I've always preferred the Archies.
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 17:07:03 EDT
From: CMich7272@aol.com
Subject: gg: Re: nogg New prog...Phreeworld
OR'ers:
For those of us who are always on the lookout for the latest and best in
progressive rock...I found these guys while cruising thru mp3. The group is
Phreeworld, a prog rock band out of the Pacific NW. You can sample their
stuff (and order it as well) at
http://www.mp3.com/phreeworld
I don't think you'll be disappointed. Love to see these guys play the east
coast. If you like what you hear, let them (and me) know!
Thanks,
Chuck
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 22:22:58 +0100
From: "Mark L. Potts"
Subject: RE: gg: NO-IT'S NOT OK!
>
>
> At 07:43 PM 10/7/1999 +0100, Mark L. Potts wrote:
>
> >...........The Partridge Family?
> >
> >I'm almost afraid to ask how this started......
>
> I've always preferred the Archies.
>
Next you'll be telling me you like the Brady Bunch ;)
Thorlina
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 18:20:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: mammienun@webtv.net
Subject: gg: Here's a story....
of a lovely lady who was bringing up 3 very lovely girls. All of them
had hair of gold like their mother, the youngest one in curls. It's the
story of a man named Brady who was bringing up 3 boys of his own. They
were 4 men living all together, yet they were all alone. Til the one day
when the lady met this fellow, and they knew that it was much more than
a hunch that this group must somehow form a family. That's the way they
all became the Brady Bunch. This is pitiful....don't I have something
else I could be doing? Oh...that's right! I should be getting ready to
go to NYC. Later, mammiebradynun.
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 1999 19:07:39 -0700
From: "Francisco Lauria"
Subject: gg: NoGG: Art Farmer, R.I.P.
Versatile Jazzman Art Farmer Dies at 71
By Adam Bernstein
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, October 7, 1999; Page B7
Art Farmer, 71, a protean brassman who played sprightly bebop but preferred
to render mellow ballads on fluegelhorn, died Oct. 4 at his home in New York
of cardiac arrest. He had homes in New York and Austria.
Although Mr. Farmer played fluegelhorn almost exclusively for decades after
the early 1960s, he used a hybrid of the fluegelhorn and the trumpet, the
flumpet, in the 1990s.
The instrument, designed specifically for him but now sold worldwide,
brought Mr. Farmer a fuller range of sound than the fluegelhorn and also was
lighter and easier to hold.
His output of more than 100 recordings – most recently the album "Silk Road"
in 1997 – included dates with Lionel Hampton, Charles Mingus, Horace Silver,
Gerry Mulligan and Milt Jackson. Perhaps his most significant work was with
a sextet he called the Jazztet, which he first worked with in the late 1950s
and early 1960s and later revived in the 1980s.
The original group included tenor saxophonist Bennie Golson and produced
such standards as "Killer Joe" and "I Remember Clifford."
The songs, undergirded by swing rhythm, usually featured a trumpet, sax and
trombone lead, with Mr. Farmer sometimes using a mute to execute the driving
yet soulful and lyrical themes composed by Golson.
"The Jazztet is among the top five jazz groups of the '50s," said Rob
Gibson, the executive producer and director of Jazz at Lincoln Center in New
York, which programmed several concerts this decade that featured Mr.
Farmer. "It was the definitive hard bop group."
In Washington, Mr. Farmer performed at Blues Alley, the Hirschhorn Museum
and the Museum of Natural History in the 1970s and 1980s.
Mr. Farmer was born in Council Bluffs, Iowa, and raised in Phoenix, where he
played cornet in a dance band with his twin brother, the late bassist
Addison Farmer.
Wowed by fast and brassy big bands such as Stan Kenton's in the mid-1940s,
he switched to trumpet, and the brothers moved to Los Angeles before their
senior year of high school to take lessons and play in regional outfits.
Within a few years, Mr. Farmer made his first recordings, including the tune
"Farmer's Market," with a group led by bebop saxophonist Wardell Gray. Wider
recognition came in the 1950s, when he joined Hampton's big band and also
played with saxophonist Gigi Gryce and pianist-composer Silver.
Additionally, Mr. Farmer performed with sax greats of the previous
generation, including Lester Young and Coleman Hawkins, as well of some of
his progressive contemporaries, such as pianist Thelonious Monk and drummer
Art Blakey. Mr. Farmer also contributed his sound to the piano-less small
groups led by guitarist Jim Hall and saxophonist Gerry Mulligan.
The bassist Keter Betts, who played at times with Mr. Farmer since the
1960s, said he was struck by Mr. Farmer's unflashy, carefully crafted
rendition of notes. "He was a gentleman's trumpet player, not a rebel
trumpet player," Betts said.
Mr. Farmer spent his remaining years touring Europe and the United States,
where he received tributes and awards.
He is survived by a companion, a son and a sister.
© 1999 The Washington Post Company
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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 23:39:02 -0500
From: Steve and Terry Lottich
Subject: gg: JB's FF/GW's WS/GORGG
Diana:
> This was mentioned in an essay on the mechanics of Superman flying by
comic
>writer and artist John Byrne...
Byrne is my comic god. When he took a turn with my favorite comic, the
Fantastic Four, in the early 80's, he really made them come alive for me.
They had the most cosmic adventures imaginable, yet they were like my old
friends. When Sue lost her baby, I cried.
_ _ _
Glen/Barney:
>PS: Did whoever who had a copy of the Guess Who's "Wheatfield Soul" ever
listen to it again?
That was me, and ya know, after your recommendation, I *never* found the
album again! Gaaaahh!! I thought I'd lent it to a friend, but he doesn't
think he has it. I may have misfiled it or lost it somewhere in the depths
of my closet.
_ _ _
Let me take this opportunity to convey my best wishes to everyone going to
New Gorgg City this weekend. I'm extremely jealous of every damn one of
ya! Hope you all have a great time. Do something fun for me. But don't
use my name, I don't wanna get any 3 a.m. calls from the Police! Well,
maybe Andy Summers...
Today's deadly sin is envy.
Steve
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 00:56:51 -0400
From: Daniel Potvin
Subject: gg: Yes in 2000
Hey
With The way things are going i guess YES won't be coming to Canada until the year 2000.
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 01:50:46 -0700
From: "Frank Lauria"
Subject: gg: NoGG: Cosmos, indeed
http://www.msnbc.com/news/320424.asp?cp1=1
You go, Carl.
P-Frank
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Date: Fri, 8 Oct 1999 02:44:57 -0400
From: Daniel Potvin
Subject: gg: RE: NoGG: Cosmos, indeed
>> Frank Lauria [SMTP:Frank.Lauria@worldnet.att.net] writes::
>> gg: NoGG: Cosmos, indeed
<< Fichier: ATT00026.txt; charset = Windows-1252>>
Hey Frank
Are you in space or what
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