zed on Channel Z Breakfast show with Jon and Nathan



I had to put a cassette tape in to get this interview because I had an early class that day, but the tape ran out at the end (of the tape obviously, not the interview) so I didn’t get to hear the song that they sung or all of the interview.

Sometimes there might not be a name next to a quote that’s because I didn’t know who said it or there was few people talking at the same time, they were also eating through some of it so it made it hard to hear. It’s also edited a bit because I got sick of stopping and rewinding the cassette tape. So if something doesn’t fit in or doesn’t seem fully explained it’s because I left something out or else it was spoken in the background And I had to have Nathan R for Nathan Rarere and Nathan K for Nathan King

Zed: hi
Nathan R: on the last day of everything being different
Jon: I think you should go around and introduce yourselves and say which one you are cause people might know where you stand on the stage, okay you start
Nathan R: and your favourite way to romance a lady
Nathan K: right I’m Nathan and I’m the gimp in the middle usually at the front, oh, um
(background voice) long walks on the beaches
Nathan K: yeah sounds good
Adrian: I’m Adrian I’m in the middle too, but I’m at the back playing drums and my favourite way to romance a lady is to get a big bag of hashbrowns and let them brew for a while till they get all soggy
Nathan R: yeah yeah
Jon: that’s beautiful Adrian
Nathan R: soul brother number 3
Andy: I hide behind guitar pedals
what’s your name
Andy: my name is Nathan
hold on
Andy: Andy and um I like tickling them
Nathan R: oh nice
Jon: yeah that’s nice
(by now Jon and Nathan are both doing their funk soul brother voices)
Nathan: Andy likes to tickle the ladies
Jon: nice work brother
Nathan R: soul brother number 4
Ben: soul brother Ben
Ben: I’m normally on camera right or stage right whatever it is, I play bass and um I’m looking on any tips on how to pick up women actually
Jon we hear you brother
Nathan R: so far we’ve had hashbrowns
Jon: a walk in the park with a hashbrown
Nathan R: that’s a step up from fish’n’chips but its like an extension
Adrian: yeah, sit on the gutter and you eat them
Ben: your paying a dollar a hashbrown rather than a dollar a scoop
Nathan R: oh, so its flasher aye?
Yeah
Nathan: so its like the champagne of beach dates
Jon: so you guys are album virgins for only one more day
yeah
Ben: tomorrow silencer
Andy: tomorrow we get violated
Nathan: have you taken a copy home yet and just gone YEESSSS!!
Yeah we have
Nathan: cause I put together a silly compilation but I was stoked! (it was the ICE TV ABLUM for those who didn’t know) I was like yeaahh
Adrian: someone’s like bothered to print it and mass produce it and your like cool
Jon: how many do they make at a time when they make an album?
Adrian: about fifty
Ben: fifty-five
Jon: fifty-five albums!
yeah, but like ten of those are going to radio stations
Ben: and we’ve got 5 each
Nathan R: so there’s 30 people so you’d better be outside the door of the record store at what time tomorrow 10.
Yeah or they might want to line up at 8
Nathan R: or better yet go down now get a thermos together and a sleeping bag and go down now
Adrian: we’ll watch you from the hotel and laugh
Jon: no you’ll be in the shop dressed up in disguise buying one ‘ id like one of these fantastic zed albums, silencer, oh is it only thirty dollars that’s reasonable’ I’ll have two
Nathan R: I got scared to go into record stores when the ICE TV album came out because I didn’t want people to think I was actually buying it I actually avoided all record stores fore about 3 months, I went nuts, I missed out on a lot of good albums.
Nathan K: you do feel pretty weird going into the shop when its in there.
Nathan R: especially when you go in there’s like 10 albums of you which is going to happen you tomorrow
Adrian: Andy went in and listened to it on the listening post
did you
Adrian: in Wellington
then there was a whole heap of laughter and whatever
Jon: now you guys a lot of people are saying how come you re-recorded, or remixed them
Nathan R: fatboy slimmed them
re-recorded
Jon: did you feel like oh we’ve done this before
yeah, a little bit
Ben: Nathan’s got an analogy don’t ya Nathan?
Nathan K: oh yeah I do really, I was just trying to think of one real quick its like um taking snapshots of your life like the past and a bit closer to the future and the present and its like this album needs to be more coherent ya know? This is us now that was us 2 years ago and like ‘oh daisy’ recorded 1998, maybe late 1997 it just wasn’t’ us ya know? Redid it; much better
Andy: I’ve got a good analogy
okay
Andy: I reckon on if we put all the old songs on an album with the new tracks it would be like a school ball ya know? So it would be like wearing the same dress twice
there was a lot of agreement and ahs from the others
Andy: no one wants to wear the same dress twice
Nathan R: one of my school balls and I’m a guy and my girlfriend had a blue dress and this other girl had a green dress and apparently they were the exactly the same dress
oh oh oh
Nathan r: I couldn’t figure it out and she was like ahhh, and it was her friend and there was like they were betrayed ‘I thought you said you weren’t’ going to wear that dress’ but its green and I couldn’t see the problem because one was blue and the other was green
Adrian: why don’t you just be a guy and all wear the same
Nathan R: exactly but the problem was the cut was the same
oh
Nathan R: now Andy you weren’t there for the initial recording of daisy so how do you fit in with that? Do you just go along and play the bits that you think will go there
Andy: um yeah I just arrived like a caged tiger and they let me out and told me what they didn’t like and just added my stuff to it and pretty much like the song’s still the same song its just
Nathan R: just extra highlighty bits and a bit thicker and stuff
Andy: yeah
Nathan: and cause who’s song was it originally?
Ben: daisy? me
Nathan R: how was it to sorta you’ve heard it before and then some one goes through and puts a little ‘dodaloo’ in it. Do you go ‘no, don’t do that’ cause I like the space in that bit
Ben: yeah I like the contrast between just having distorted guitar and one single guitar and vocals and pretty much nothing else throughout the whole song and Andy comes along and puts delays and effects and trinlows I like the new version a lot better
Nathan K: Andy got the nickname wobbly man
yeah mr wobbles from our producer
Jon: Mr wobbles, what was that for?
Andy: cause he reckoned I had a lot of wobbly guitar sounds
Nathan K: he also wanted to call the album tom tom, cause Adrian played tom toms all the time just like any other drummer
Jon: is the producer a big part of the standard personality on the album or you just tell them what to do?
Nathan K: good at capturing the stamp,
Ben: licking the stamp and putting it on.
Nathan K: Ooh that’s good
analogy’s been handed over
Nathan R: who was the producer to do it and how did you get about choosing him?
Nathan K: David nicoloas, is an older producer and he’s been working for years with INXS, pulp, ash, all these legendary bands that we were like oh my god
Ben: Elton john
Jon: what did he do with Elton John
Adrian: Elton John gave him a $15,000 Rolex.
Andy: and then he lost it
Nathan R: and what did you guys give him?
Ben: a bottle of gin
Jon: so did you look at the list of bands and go we want to be like those bands?
Nathan K: no it wasn’t like that, that he’d make you sound the same way
Adrian: we didn’t want to be like them, but if they can work with him then he’s got to be good.
Nathan R: don’t talk with your mouthful
Adrian: its good its got custard and apricot and pastry
Jon: I want to romance a lady with my mouth full
Nathan R: and so where did you get him from, he doesn’t live around here does he?
Nathan K: he was imported from Australia
Nathan R: so if I’m in a band, say if Labrador Spearman so far we’re just going for the whole imaging thing before the music like the T-shirts and stuff.
Ben: yeah its not about the music
Nathan R: we’ll get out the merchandise first
Adrian: can we support you guys up here when you play?
Nathan R: for sure
Nathan R: is there like a book, like you know the producer book how do you do that?
Adrian: most of them are with agents who might have a webpage and they’ll get you looking at producers
Nathan K: we got David on the off chance we’d been looking for a while and having a lot of trouble it is hard to find a good producer our manager was over in aussie taking Tim Finn over on a bit of a tour over in aussie and David was doing live sound at the time and got talking
Ben: he wasn’t even supposed to do live sound, he got called in like 5 minutes before cause the other guy couldn’t make it
Jon: so it really was fate
Nathan R: what was some of the really good advice he gave you when you were playing?
Andy: Hashbrowns. Before every gig, have a hashbrown.
Nathan K: on a serious note though he was real big on the feel of the track though, rather than being exactly technically right it can sterilise the whole song, if everything is right down to the wire it can lose energy.
Nathan R: do you play with your eyes closed when you’re recording?
Sometimes
Nathan R: cause on Sunday evenings they used to have those talent shows and I always thought the people who sung best had their eyes shut. And I always wondered whether it was because you went back inside your self or whatever and if you tend to do that when your recording or do you just look around?
Adrian: I tend to stare intensely at something when I’m playing the other day when we were on this TV show and it was this bright light and after wards I was like what the hell am I doing staring at this bright light
Nathan K: I’d try to close my eyes when I was singing and I’d find that I was getting quieter and quieter and I’d open my eyes and the mike would be way over there so its not a good idea
Nathan R: I saw Ray Charles at Napier and he was swinging around and I though he’s gonna do it he’s gonna do it and sure enough, head into the microphone, didn’t miss a beat he kept on singing and someone had to come on and put the mike back towards ray’s face cause it was pointing off into the crowd but it was pretty impressive anyway
Andy: you need some of those Janet Jackson clip on dancing mikes
Jon: you’ll be getting those for your stage show wont ya?
Adrian: we’re doing a lot of dancing and stuff
Nathan R: dancers in cages
oh yeah
Jon: a lot of choreographed routines you guys?
Oh yeah fireworks and stuff
Nathan R: ain’t nothing without pyros and hashbrowns
Ben: we’ll sequence all the guitars and stuff and the vocals
Andy: so that we’re not committed to actual music, its just dance
Jon: wicked

and that’s where my tape cut off, not exactly there, but during the ads. It doesn’t have quite the same effect as a transcript as with Jon and Nathan talking to them.
 
  


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