THE DENNIS MILLER SHOW
DENNIS MILLER: the creators of comedy central's incrediably successful south plark...south park please welcome matt stone and trey parker. boys!
whats up boys??
TREY: yeah we're rebels
MATT: we're just getting wasted and fucking
DM: you guys just don't give a fuck. did you do your hair up purple for me tonight?
TREY: cause its all about rebels. thats a rebel. purple's rebellious
DM: right on...we had a huge crowd today, i think this is the biggest crowd we've ever had. a lot of people got turned away. the thing is phenomenal. can you ..you know when you starting doing this did you have any idea it would be this big?
TREY: no. we thought, we seriously thought we'd be about 3 episodes and out.
MATT: yeah we thought the pilot would fail.
TREY: yeah..
MATT: and then when we got the series, we thought we'd be 3 episodes cancelled. yanked.
TREY: because people did get pissed off. my mom was pissed off.
DM: she's one of the one's that got turned away.
TREY: no she wouldnt even come.
DM: she does not like the whole thing?
TREY: no, well now she does, but at first she was like, "you know the drawings are so cute why do they have to say the f-word?" so i talked about it with matt and i said you know maybe the drawings are real cute we don't have to say the f-word. matt said no-
MATT: fuck that
DM: now the first thing was that christmas thing that i saw floating around. who put that out? george clooney made-
TREY: well no it was just a friend of ours who wanted a christmas card and matt and i did it cause we needed money for christmas presents, so we did it for like 700 bucks. didnt even put our names on it cause we didnt think anything of it. and we're like okay here's this piece of crap whatever. and then we're getting calls from people in new york and florida going "you gotta see this thing i just saw with santa claus and jesus" and we're like oh we did that. you know and then it was just all over the place.
MATT: copies of copies. it was really strange.
DM: now you guys seem like you don't buy any of the shit to some extent. i think thats what comes through in the cartoon. people are so..i mean anybody who creates a character that has a celery stalk for an arm and patrick duffy for a leg, i think has pretty much gone off the main drag, and ah..but yet now, you read in the trades you signed big deal. great you know its about time you mades some money off it cause i am sure every t-shirt manufacturer in the country is making a killing off of this. does it scare you in the least? i know you want to get rich. everybody likes to get rich, there's nothing wrong with that. does it scare you that you might become the people that you make fun of?
MATT: become everything we used to hate?
TREY: well you know its true because the thing is when we came to LA and we were such losers that our favorite thing to do was to like go to bars and try to find someone famous and fart on them and get a picture of it.
MATT: we were at a party and richard dreyfuss was there and trey was like "i have to fart" i'm like "lets get a picture!" and then he walks over and we have a...and i just whipped it out and took this picture figuring it would just be a blue blur of his shirt."here's trey farting on richard dreyfuss" but it turned out pretty good. you see richard back there, and you see trey like (does action) squeezing it out.
TREY: the best one was danny devito. cause i mean he's just right there at my ass level. what sucks about it now we have so little time but its like oh lets go hang out at a bar and its like you know i see people now coming "lets go fart on those guys" they want to fart on us now.
MATT: thats gonna happen now that we told that story.
TREY: yeah everyone's gonna fart on us.
DN: who better in the world to fart on then dick dreyfuss. he just turned around "that was no boating accident!" why...i hate to even ask cause i know you'll think he's an asshole for asking this but do you consider yourself rebellious? or do you just consider that you've found a knitch market that creates that rabid fandom. or do you really just think the reason people like it is that they find it so cathartic that you piss on everything that is almost sacred?
TREY: i think that thats the thing. we never considered..we don't think of ourselves as rebels. we don't say okay what can we do thats going to piss everyone off. you know i mean we entered every show with "well what happened to us in 3rd grade?" we had a dog that ran away. okay lets make him gay. and it wasn't really a matter of, and it still isn't we're not in the business of like "who can we offend? who can we piss off?" it just happens naturally.
MATT: those like rebels, like when you say well we have to rebel against this, i think most like, when you say rebel it is someone who just like...we just never watched like mainstream tv. so it wasn't even possible for us to do a regular tv show.
DM: how were you guys in high school? were you misanthropic or did you--
TREY: we both got into trouble..
MATT: yeah.. i got in trouble but..
TREY: i actually got kicked out of college. but you know again it wasn't for--that was the big thing. when things hit as big as the south park story was..everyone liked the story cause it was you know with these two supposed slacker loser rebel guys that suddenly got fame and the truth was we've been working our asses off since we were you know since we met in college and we did films all the time. and i only got kicked out of school because i was working so hard on this film trying to get it done and failed all my classes.
DM: did you guys do that universal studio tour film that i saw?
MATT AND TREY: yeah yeah!
TREY: no one knows about that..
MATT: no one's even seen that..
DM: oh christ! that was so inside! and funny and i shouldn't have even brought it up cause their all thinking asshole we haven't seen it!
TREY: we'll just have our own discussion
DM: we've got a phone call line 9. we've got tom from hudsonville michigan. tom?
TOM: hey
DM: how you doing? got a question?
TOM: yeah when you guys were young kids were either of you considered rebels?
MATT: when we were kids were we considered rebels?
DM: let me ask you..narrow that down a little. who do..do you relate to any of these characters when you right these things? is anybody cartman is anybody-?
MATT: yeah i mean they're all kinda like part...a part of everybody is cartman.
DM: did you get your ass kicked a lot when you were young?
TREY: no. i kicked a lot of ass. yeah. but i mean it was like we talked about it and i'm basically stan matt's basically kyle cause matt's a jew.
MATT: great!
TREY: i've outted him.
MATT: so i can't be a rebel by definition. the jewish rebel!
TREY: and we talked about it. like you know your group of friends always changed and there was always the fat kid and there was always the poor kid. and sometimes i was the fat kid for a while and i was the poor kid you know it just went back and forth. but we knew we wanted a ..and one of our favorite characters from older television was archie bunker. and we were like it sucks you could never have an archie bunker on a show these days. so we said what if we made him an 8 year old. and thats really where cartman came to be was from archie bunker.
DM: what are you favorite episodes? how many are there now?
MATT: ...16?
TREY: actually talking about rebellion is really funny cause our favorite episode bar-none is terrence and philip.
MATT: yeah..which pissed off a lot of people
TREY: it pissed off america. the thing is we did this thing where we set up this big cliff-hanger "who's cartman's father?" thinking who's gonna give a fuck who cartman's father is. and everyone did! and the...we're like find out in 4 weeks! and that fell on april fools so we're like we'll do a whole side episode that terrence and philip and we won't even have the kids in it at all right? rebelling against our own show basically. and it aired and we're thinking "oh people are gonna love it! they'll be so stoked that we fucked with them" and boy..comedy central just got flooded with calls "fuck you! i'll never watch the show again!"
MATT: we got..there was things on the internet that was like "fuck you matt and trey. i hate you. i'm never watching your show again." like whoa!!
TREY: "you're show was cool cause it was ? and it was different and now we just wanna hear cartman be fat, and kenny die and chef sing week after week.
DM: you think you're out there being the ringmasters in the econo-class circuits (?) and you find out its who shot jr!
TREY: exactly! exactly!
DM: alright we got another phone call line 2. we've got beverly from ohio. bev?
BEV: hi dennis. hi matt and trey.
MATT AND TREY: hello, hi.
BEV: yeah my question is do you think the rebel bad boy persona is something that guys usually grow out of?
TREY: we haven't but i mean its true. becaue you grow up and i think you're taught that the way to be cool is to be a rebel. you know and so thats what you work towards, is rebelling against something. and i think that thats what you know a lot of kids now can grab on to something like south park or whatever and say now i 'm a rebel.
MATT: when you get old you're a rebel, like you have a pony tail. and you're like "i'm a rebel. cause i have a pony tail." thats about as rebellious as old people get.
DM: now my son is 8 years old and he's only seen one episode because ah..you know 8 i'm just trying to hang on to certain things for awhile. and i knew he wasn't quite prepared to watch the episodes when he said to me "i'd like to see the aah-nal (pronounced it as aaaa-nal) probe episode"
TREY: aah-nal probe??
DM: yeah..i dont think you have a full grasp. its not the aah-nal probe.
MATT: we'll he needs to learn. he needs to learn what it is before it happens.
TREY: but these kids, a few of the 8 year olds have seen the shows and they go over them like the zubruter (?spell check that) films. they know everything that has happened in every episode. doctoral thesis on the varied ways kenny has been shot and mamed.
TREY: they tell us shit we've never seen.
MATT: people find stuff in episodes that we didn't even know where there. they go through it frame by frame...
DM: its like the trekkies now. like when lovitz did that great sketch on saturday night live ..shatner played and lovitz and said "providers of transcallion five..." and he just looked at him and goes "get a life"
MATT: "are we supposed to believe that cartman can be in two places at once?" you know like continuity questions. we're like "well..i dont know.."
TREY: we said when terrence and philip aired we had to go address this crowd of like 2,000 people afterwards and their just pissed and we're like "you know its funny!" until we finally aired an episode where we said who cartman's father was-just okay its whoever we say it is-then everyone was like "oh okay" then now they go back and watch terrence and philip and are like "okay that was pretty funny"
MATT: they were mad watching it, they just didnt get it.
TREY: now you're going throw all the stages of fame. and i assume the next one after this wild upfront euphoria about the show is next you'll get all the conservatives telling you this is the end of the world as we know it.
TREY: we're the end of-..
MATT: end of democracy we're called now..
TREY: which is rad i mean..thats cool whatever.
DM: something to put in on your curriculum down the road-
MATT: resume..
DM: "1998-end of democracy" so what do you guys got planned tonight? you gonna go fart on somebody famous or whats happening?
MATT: we can't do it anymore really. oh yeah we can. here. (trey farts on dennis miller and matt takes the picture)
DM: thank you guys i''ll be right back i gotta do the news! i know another thing that can kill kenny..(does the news)
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