JUICE ARTICLE (courtesy of my guru christy who got it from ali) some of this is sorta weird ass and i swear a compliation of like 5 different interviews..but read it anyway
A FIRESIDE CHAT WITH MATT AND TREY They're supposed to be promoting their new film dammit. However you try stopping Parker and Stone from talking about South Park, Sally Struthers, and Barbara Streisand.
What are your feelings today for Barbara Streisand?
T: She's a bitch.. [laughs] Yeah, we hate her. You're not going to get anything good out of us about Barbara Streisand.
Weren't you invited to her wedding?
M: We're from Colorado, so you have to hate Barbara Streisand. It's part of what happens when you become a citizen of Colorado, you sign something. She's the one that turned Aspen into what it is today.
She did? And you hate her for that?
M: Oh, we hate her for lots of reasons. Anything she does. She's the antithesis of Colorado. I hate the coffee she drinks.
Sally Struthers, there's another person you gave…
T: Oh, she's alright. SS isn't really a bad person, she's just a ripe person for jokes. Dude she sets herself up for it. It's like, 'Just do voiceovers', you know? [laughs] Because she's fat. Because she's enormously fat and she's standing in front of a bunch of really skinny, starving people going, 'Look at these poor kids'. You're going, Dude, 'Give them some of your pie.'
What About Kathie Lee? That's the obvious one.
M:Kathie Lee, she's a pretty obvious target. What can you say about her? BS is evil, that's what were saying. That's why she got the whole show. All these other people are just public figures we're making fun of.
So you don't hate Kathie Lee?
M; No. David Caruso, actually. See, it's so funny because what happened was, these shows came out and suddenly people started calling us, people like David Caruso, going, 'You guys are so cool, that was the greatest, that was the best present I had. I wanna do a voice on your show.' And you're like, 'Ok, cool man. . That guy's kinda cool'.
Are you two recognised when you walk down the street?
M: Oh yeah. I went out last night, I mean my hair is like…
Do you ever put it up in a bun or anything?
T: I can't really do anything with it. We're waiting, because tomorrow we're doing interviews for on-camera stuff, and then the day after that we're both shaving our heads. That's the only reason we still have it. I'm doing this so people recognise me like this.
When did you start going blonde?
M: Way back when we did Orgazmo, a year ago.
Do blondes have more fun?
T: Oh, yeah, yeah. The chicks dig it.
Producer David Zucker said you guys are in the business to meet girls but you ended up with 14-year old boys.
M: It's kinda true, anybody who recognises me is a pimply faced….We go to Vegas and when we're walking down the street, once in a blue moon, there'll be some hot girls that are like, 'Yeah, right, let's go party!'
The tongue kissing scene that you do so well in BASEketball, David said that you were afraid to bring it up with him. My theory is that you really wanna get on the website "WE KNOW THEY'RE GAY".
T: We really set ourselves up for it. They wanted us to do an interview segment at the start of the SP videos. They wanted it to be like MTV and us be all cool, like, 'We're rad, we kick ass!' We'd rather make fun of ourselves. So we did this thing where we're in turtlenecks in front of a fire, and we had lipgloss on. But what happens is people don't realise we're making fun of ourselves and it's like, 'Wow, I didn't know those guys were gay!' People thought we were gay for a long time. That's why the hot chicks always just leap after us.
Are you guys amazed that all this happened in a relatively short amount of time?
M: Yeah. I mean, it's pretty weird. We've always worked hard and now we work really hard and basically don't have lives because we're working all the time. Like right now we need to be writing for the show, and we have to be here doing this, and all I can think about is like, if Monday were not done…
Who has been a huge South Park fan that has really surprised you? Steven Speilberg watches tapes.
M: Yeah. He's been asking us out to lunch and we keep cancelling. [laughs]
How can you cancel Steven Speilberg?
T: We're so busy all the time, we always have stuff on. There's never any time to just go out for a friendly lunch. We had to cancel Casey Silver (Universal pictures head honcho), four times in a row. Always we had good reasons. The show is king to us. We have 50 people waiting around to do stuff on the show. We can't not produce.
How do you get inspired, working so hard all the time?
M: It's the only thing you have. It's actually easy to get inspired because the only play time you get is being in the SP world for a while
M: Nothing. I watch football. Monday night football.
No favourite shows? Seinfeld...?
M: No, we didn't like Seinfeld. I don't like any recent shows. Actually I grew up without a TV until I was 8 years old, and then I was never really into TV. The reason we ended up with going with Comedy Central channel with South Park was because we'll never miss an episode of Monty Python repeat. We loved Absolutely Fabulous, Kids In The Hall, stuff like that. That stuff is all on Comedy Central. I abhor sitcoms, I hate them. I know an art form to it and there are the great shows, but I personally can't stand watching those shows.
What about Orgazmo has the censorship battle been lost are you gonna get your movie out the way you made it?
T: It's been won in a way, because my deal was that I was supposed to deliver an R – rated film. I kept cutting the movie and cutting it, and they kept giving us and NC-17 (over 18). There's no nudity, there's no sex, there's no blood and there's only like, comical kung-fu violence. And it gets an NC-17. It's ridiculous when a movie like Seven – which has a woman raped with a razor sharp dildo – that's okay, but I have a guy with a plastic dildo on his head and it's NC-17. It's ridiculous. October Films, who bought the film, said, 'Fine, we'll release it NC-17', which is great. So I don't have to cut out anything for the movie now. Part of the reason they're psyched for us to do that is they know we'll do a bunch of press on it and talk what bullshit it is.
You're both writing the DUMB AND DUMBER SEQUEL script? Will you star in it as well? We gotta get working on it really soon. Right now for us it's just a writing gig. And it's a good thing because it's a chance for us to write something that's not SP, you know? That'll be fun. I'm not gonna be competing with Jim Carrey on screen.
Besides Ron Smith, who are your immediate heroes? Who would you like to work with in an upcoming film?
M: We've actually worked with a bunch of them because we did the South Park album. Most of our heroes were musicians because we both started as musicians.
T: We got to record a song with Primus. I was a huge Primus fan, so I'm gonna hang out with those guys now. Elton John…I was hugely…I mean, I'm a piano player, that's what I went to College for, my degree was in piano. It was all because of Elton. Elton agreed to do a song on the South Park album. He wrote this song about Wendy Testaburger and, my God, I was just saying, 'Whoa!'
Weren't you guys thrown out of film school?
T: Yeah, because I was making Cannibal! The Musical. And I ended up focusing on that and missed a bunch of classes. I wasn't even majoring in film, I was double-majoring in music and Japanese.
Now you guys met in filmmaking class, didn't you?
M: Yeah. We were the only ones who were into comedy. Everyone else wanted to be Martin Scorsese . Everyone else was making intense black and white movies, and we were making like, giant beavers destroying towns, and stuff like that.
How's the SP movie going? M: We handed in the second draft of the script, and now Sherry Lansing (head of Paramount Studios) is reading it. She's bleeding out of the eyes. [laughs] It's rated R, that's the big thing, we fought to get. I mean, we're both huge Beavis and Butthead fans, but with Beavis and Butthead movie we felt like it was just a long episode. It didn't take it to the next level. Mike Judge just left a message on my machine last night.
What did Mike Judge say?
T: I don't want to say anything bad about Beavis and Butthead movie, 'cause Beavis and Butthead paved the way for SP. Mike Judge is a genius. Beavis and Butthead is one of the only things that can make me laugh, but the movie was a little disappointing for hardcore fans like us because we wanted it to go to another level. We really fought for the SP movie, fighting for it to not just be a long episode. That means making it rated R. It's bringing it up to a cinematic level and having something that shows there's a reason as to why there's a movie. Not just a way to make more money.
Can you say a little bit what it's about?
M: No. Because then we get screwed. Everybody copies it?
M: Yeah. It's really unfortunate. I don't wanna know anything about a movie when I go in to see it. I just want to know like, 'Maybe there is this'. That's all I wanna hear. I wanna go see it, I wanna be surprised. That's why the kiss worked so well in BASEketball. If you know about the kiss it will take all the steam out of it. And part of the reason why that scene works so well is because it's so out of left field, so much of a shock and surprise. We have such a fanatical SP following that if we say anything the rumours start and all of a sudden people think…I mean there are already rumours on the Internet. 'Oh this happens and this happens'. It's not true, but let 'em think what they wanna think
Is it hard to keep thinking of ways for Kenny to die?
M: No. It's not the focus of the show.
What about the controversy that's continued with SP since it became popular, the issue of younger kids watching. I just read in the paper that you're gonna have T-shirts for SP but only in adult sizes. Isn't that ridiculous because kids wear large oversized T-shirts?
M: It's all ridiculous, because the truth is we so the show for older people. If kids watch it, one, it's not our problem, and two it's not our responsibility. I don't believe when people say, 'Well you're out there in the public, it's your responsibility. I don't believe that. The airwaves are public and your TV set has an on and off button.
And it's on late at night.
T: And it's on late. I don't think anybody can blame Comedy Central for not being responsible. They can make so much money – gobs of money- with toy contracts, and they've turned everything down. All the merchandise is adult- orientated. The T-shirts come in large and extra large only, which is a bummer for a lot of people- like my girlfriend, who wears a medium, so she can't wear it. They've gone to extraordinary lengths to keep this an adult-orientated show. And it catches crap for a parent's bad judgment.
So there are no plans for comic books or anything like that?
T: No. There's no way you could ever hear about the show, and mistake it for a kid's program.
How do you feel about claims over a kid killing himself because Kenny gets killed in each episode?
M: That's not what happened. What happened is this kid wrote a suicide note that was four pages long, in which he listed tons of stuff. He listed Beavis and Butthead, Metallica and one of them stuck in the middle was Kenny. And of course….
So the press blew it up, blaming it on South Park?
M: I basically shot the kid in the head, that's what they're saying. It's ridiculous but think about how many millions of kids watch the show. They haven't shot themselves in the head you know? I think we are beating the spread I know that kids also loved Seinfeld.
It's been said that you hate everything and that your humour is sophomoric.
T: Sophomoric. Yeah, it's sophomoric, we're not saying we're the most genius guys in the world. We're not Oscar Wilde. I'll take any comment, but I won't take hateful because Matt and I grew up in great homes with loving parents. Both of our parents are still together.
Living in Colorado still?
T: Yeah. Besides myself, Matt's the most positive guy I've ever met. We're very positive people, very optimistic people. We're so not into the whole, 'Mankind sucks and is destroying the planet and raping the forest', and all that. We're just not into it. We're like, we've done a lot of great shit and we're gonna continue to do great shit. We're learning and we're getting better.
OCTOBER 1998 JUICEMAGAZINE