r4zz3nd4hcub3n: http://www.christian-thinktank.com/rbutcher1.html
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: this is right up your alley
BboyNeko: lol
BboyNeko: its only genocide if the government does it
BboyNeko: not if god does it
BboyNeko: great job christian think tank
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: read the article
BboyNeko: i am
BboyNeko: its funny
BboyNeko: :-)
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: and learn about the amalekites
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: you dont know anything about the amalekites tho
BboyNeko: they didnt even exist
BboyNeko: no evidence of their ever having existed
BboyNeko: same with israelite captivity by egyptians
BboyNeko: all made up
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: thats what they said about the hittites
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: and king david
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: and the masoretic texts... it was all made up!
BboyNeko: sorry, no jsutification for killing babies
BboyNeko: none
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: just read the article then get back to me
BboyNeko: especially from god, who is supposedly all powerrful
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: or perfectly just :-)
BboyNeko: he does a poor job of saying it isnt genoide
BboyNeko: duh..it isnt genocide cus its only genocide if people do it to an internal group of people
BboyNeko: duh
BboyNeko: lol
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: read question number five: http://www.tektonics.org/whowants.html
BboyNeko: OMG OMG OMG
BboyNeko: "Just saying that it seems "always unjust to kill a child" is not enough—we would have to show that even the cases in normal human experience in which someone has to do this"
BboyNeko: LOL!
BboyNeko: its ok to murder babies sometimes
BboyNeko: :-)
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yeah like in 1 samuel
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: did you read the fifth question
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: nice summary the amalekites crimes, detailed throughout that article
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: *of the
BboyNeko: i did read question 5
BboyNeko: it dosent matter how vile the amekilites were
BboyNeko: babies are abbies
BboyNeko: jeffrey dahmer was vile
BboyNeko: but no one would say his kids (if he had had any) should be killed too
BboyNeko: especially newborns
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: ok and who are you to judge god's actions then? your a breakdancer from maryland.
BboyNeko: or even his wife
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: i dont understand your stubbornness to consider the possibilities
BboyNeko: im not, im saying god ordering babies killed proves the bible is just mans writings
BboyNeko: just like zues odin and what not
BboyNeko: who are you to judge odin?
BboyNeko: or zues
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: no it proves that God is not an idiot
BboyNeko: mighty gods of thunder
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: and doesnt let vile people like the Amalekites plunder the earth
BboyNeko: because you are just a man you cannot proclaim judgement on zues and call him made up
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: and really, is god sick or are people sick?
BboyNeko: or call him unjust in his ways
BboyNeko: :-)
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: god has the right to kill every last one of us
BboyNeko: people are sick
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: refute that
BboyNeko: people wrote the bible
BboyNeko: spo the bible is sicl
BboyNeko: so the bible is sick
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yes but its been 2000 years and why did jesus change my life
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: if its just man's writings
BboyNeko: so because god has the right to kill anyone, its NR unjust
BboyNeko: even when someone is innocent
BboyNeko: brilliant!
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yes
BboyNeko: i guess I was wrong :-P
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: you are correct
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: we all deserve to die. isnt god merciful? :-)
BboyNeko: innocense means nothing
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yes, innocence is a concept that comes from the bible
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: haha, nice try
BboyNeko: doing nothing wrong still means you are deserving of death, meaning there is no real wrong in doing anything wrong
BboyNeko: since we are all on death row
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yes we all go to hell by default
BboyNeko: if the punishment is the same for doing good or bad
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: apathy is worse than a flat out NO!
BboyNeko: there is no moral stanard
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: thats why christianity is unique
BboyNeko: if i do right and deserve the same punishment as a murderer like hitler
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: you cant get to heaven by doing ANYTHING good
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: or ANYTHING bad
BboyNeko: then whats my incentive?
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: you can only trust that christ died for your sins
BboyNeko: how can i judge hitler for killing innocents
BboyNeko: when god does so and its ok
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: ummm the jews werent raping israel
BboyNeko: christ died to save us from god :-)
BboyNeko: great
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: the jews werent raping themselves
BboyNeko: way to go blood thirsty god
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: use some logic....
BboyNeko: cant forgive without spilt blood
BboyNeko: makes perfect sense
BboyNeko: i mean, i cant forgive MY neighbor without him killing something for me
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: no christ died to save us from sins
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: its not god that sends us to hell its our sins
BboyNeko: no not from sins
BboyNeko: sins themselves cause no eternal damage
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: you dont have the slightest understanding of christianity
BboyNeko: only god inflicts those punishments
BboyNeko: he saved us from gods own judgements
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: because JW's is a cult
BboyNeko: god said you will die if you sin
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: that doesnt teach the bible
BboyNeko: unless you have my own son killed?
BboyNeko: how does that make sense
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: "for the wages of sin are death"
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: .... but the gift of god is eternal life"
BboyNeko: why does god need spilt blood to forgive his own cretaion from being imperfect, a condition he placed pon his creation to begin with
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: no it was our choice
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: dont you see how much he loves us? he lets us sin
BboyNeko: no it wasnt
BboyNeko: ADAM AND EVE MADE THAT CHOISE
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: he doesnt want to be worhsipped by automatons
BboyNeko: and we are punished for it
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yeah
BboyNeko: according to your theology
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: you would have to
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: you like your sin
BboyNeko: god loves punishing children
BboyNeko: for what their fathers did
BboyNeko: how is that just
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: you have sex with your g/f every other day
BboyNeko: oh wait i forgot, gpod can do ANYTHIGN and its just :-)
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yes
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: god is perfect...
BboyNeko: i bet he could torture kittens and its be just and merciful
BboyNeko: :-)
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: how would it be merciful?
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: god doesnt torture kittens
BboyNeko: well if killing babies is just and merciful
BboyNeko: then also torturing kittens must
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: "vengeance is mine, sayeth the lord"
BboyNeko: after all, god can do ANYTHING to his own creation and its ok, cus he created them
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: BboyNeko: well if killing babies is just and merciful
BboyNeko: then also torturing kittens must
BboyNeko: i dont see much difference between god and satan now
BboyNeko: :-P
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: nice try
BboyNeko: show me one instance of satan killing babies
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: satanists
BboyNeko: or satan drowning the entire world
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: lol
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yay we have the same font now
BboyNeko: or satan ordering a human sacrifice
BboyNeko: or satan killing hiw own son
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: how does that make satan good?
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: and god bad?
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: when the motives are completely diametrically opposed
BboyNeko: Well your reasonin is silly
BboyNeko: god can do anything, even what we consider evil
BboyNeko: and its ok cus he can do anything
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: no he doesnt do anything evil, why do you keep that false pretense
BboyNeko: because i know killing babies is evil
BboyNeko: you defend it saying its good
BboyNeko: i dont want to be a part of a religion thatteaches killing babies is a-ok
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: its good if God does it.
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: also, consider this:
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: the only way in which you debate this subject is by running around in circles concerning "god kills babies yet he is good... oh what a contradiction i just dont get it"
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yet you completely ignore the reasons for killing the amalekites
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: as if amalekites are equivalent to kittens in some way
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: which... sadly... is actaulyl an argument you tried to make
BboyNeko: killing bad people for doing bad things ok thats wonderful
BboyNeko: BUT BABIES DIDNT DO A DAMN THING
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: anyway, go cut and paste selected portions of this on your site so people will think you pwned me
BboyNeko: you keep saying oh the amekiltes did this the amekelites did this
BboyNeko: you will never convince me a 2 week old baby deserves death
BboyNeko: sure the nazis were bad people, hitler bad
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: the fact that god killed the babies should register something in your brain... perhaps maybe that the amalekites were extremely wicked
BboyNeko: i would never put his baby to death
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: and their tribe deserved annihilation
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yeah and heres another thing: the OT does not apply to today
BboyNeko: or that killing babies is wrong always, and either god is fucked up sadist more viler than hitler
BboyNeko: or people made him up
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: so saying "well i wouldnt kill hitler's baby" is a moot point
BboyNeko: dosent matter if the OT dosent apply
BboyNeko: you beleive the events in OT really happened
BboyNeko: killing babies has always been wrong
BboyNeko: OT times and today
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: yes if the Bible wasnt inerrant i wouldn't believe it
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: anyway, i got to go to dinner. nice debate. happy dancing.
r4zz3nd4hcub3n: later