Hello, Rosa_McGee [ logout ] profile | register | faq | search | forum home (Page: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 ) << next newest topic | next oldest topic >> Marilyn Manson BBS > Marilyn Manson > To all the openminded I say welcome. The great theology thread has returned! Author Message Rosa_McGee Member 841 Posts Member since: 08-16-2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ well don't give up on me yet.... i promise i'll be a bad angry girl again.... ;-) posted 02-09-200103:18 PM Rictus Member 3203 Posts Member since: 06-05-2000 *bump* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ For Webster. Me. "All the drugs in this world Won't save her from herself..." *^*Co-founder and proud member of the blackjack appreciation society. She's tiny but she rules.*^* "Kill The Cheese!!!" - Eliza (who I love) "No one is a nigger" - Order in an Artificial Chaos posted 02-09-200103:24 PM freegrace Member 945 Posts Member since: 10-31-2000 Rosa...I usually make you angry without trying ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Let's see...how can I misunderstand your last post...hmmm...it seems to be one of my greatest talents...LOL. When you said you can be a bad angry girl, does that mean you are admitting that man was naturally evil? So when you say that Manson should give this post attention are you saying that Trent wouldn't care? Just kidding. Yes I believe that everyone can find some happiness in this dark and dreary world and sadness. It is part of the fact that we are in between heaven and hell. Have a great day all! Freegrace 2 Thes 2:16 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word." "The reason true atheists (not your average "I-don't-like- what-mommy-and-daddy-say-so-I-hate-God" rebellious teen) are depressed is because atheism offers no hope, only proof. Proof of no hope." Mike Sorrow posted 02-09-200103:28 PM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 Embarresed because of thier own guilt? Or the guilt placed upon them by not only their uprbringing, but mainly by those who are offended. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I didn't know weather you were trying to aim the comment about how I can't honestly say that im not... oooo... pizza... i'll finish this later... "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NIN posted 02-09-200103:29 PM Rosa_McGee Member 841 Posts Member since: 08-16-2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ lol... *hugs* posted 02-09-200103:34 PM Rosa_McGee Member 841 Posts Member since: 08-16-2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ guilt... you could say you're brought up with it, though not necessarily by your parents...in my case, it's the guilt, the responsability, which the generation of our grandparents, those who actually comitted the crimes still refuses to face, a refusal they often pass on to their children, or grandchildren.. i only have to look at too many politicians here... as long as the past isn't faced, cleared up, the guilt is there.... i know it's difficult, how can you actually feel guitly for something you never did, but somehow even to be born here seems to give some responsability... if a german / austrian person visits auschwitz they just can't escape the guilt, the shame that comes with the horror... it hasn't to be placed on me by anyone, it's just there because of what happened... you're implicated.... through your birthplace, through your family you are to some extent linked to the killers... to a lesser extent this might be what part of the white americans may feel... posted 02-09-200103:53 PM Rictus Member 3203 Posts Member since: 06-05-2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ OK... @beautifulDEATH (if you're even still around): I can't find the book of source amterial I have on gnostic christianity, so I'm going to keep looking. If you are still checking, my appologies, I reciently moved house, so things are still... in a state of flux. @Rosa: I hope you have had an AWSOME gig. I personally was in a GREAT mood when I saw Manson over here, and it didn't stop me having the most amazing time. I'm sure you'll love it. @freegrace: got your reply, that was an old e-mail, from the time of starting this thread, I just wanted you to know it was up and running again. @webster: OK, I'm going to try to put this in words now, but bare in mind I've never tried to articulate this before. I grew up in Devon, and there are no people of colour at all: No indians, blacks, chinese, strictly WASP. This had some wierd ramifications. One was a fascination and fear of modern black culture. Rap/Hip-hop was totaly alien to me, and I feared it, because it was to me totally incomprehensable, there was no way for me to relate to it on an emotional level, because I hadn't developed sophistication in my musical taste. I was strickly a rock n roller (Guns n' Roses, not Nirvana!). The only place I got exposed to black culture was through movies (noe exactly representative). I was deeply curious, in a good way I think, but there was no 'way in' for me to get a handle on things. If you grow up in a city environment surrounded by people of all colours and shades, it's a lot hgarder to be racist, I think, because it's 'normalised' if you like. Well, it 'aint 'normal' for me, and I get uncomfortable. I get uncomfotable, because actuallly, I'm racist, not in the sence of hatred but in the sence of having a huge level of insecurity and self conciousness around blacks/aisians (indian/pakistani). I'm self concious because I have a fear of being racist, of causing offence. At the same time, I have this awsome curiosity, I want to listen to speech patterns, learn new slang, get into the 'vibe'. There is a differance, and it's mainly I believe a surface differance (ha,ha, of course) but I'm fascinated by that differance, in a positive way, but I'm also ashamed of my curiositry, because it can seem a barrier to acceptance. So I find myself staring at black people or asians in the street, or on buses or in pubs, then suddenly catch myself, and I look away embarrased, and of course I'm probably creating some concern in the person I'm checking out, like a 'what's up with this guy?' kinda deal, and it's so frustrating. It's a situation that's improving, but I've got a long way to go before I can hear the word 'nigger' in ANY context without feeling embarasment (this includes hearing it on-screen between blacks). The other thing is there was some deep seated racism in the area were I grew up, and I fucking despised it. I didn't want to use a word that I'd heard used to dismiss a whole group of human beings as 'inferior'. I wanted no part of that, and I still don't. This is all kind of raw, so I'm just gonna post it, I hope it makes some kind of sence. Me. "All the drugs in this world Won't save her from herself..." *^*Co-founder and proud member of the blackjack appreciation society. She's tiny but she rules.*^* "Kill The Cheese!!!" - Eliza (who I love) "No one is a nigger" - Order in an Artificial Chaos posted 02-10-200108:01 AM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 Re:Rictus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It makes a bunch of sense.. I liked its rawness as well... im not sure if I can think of a good response as of yet... (good morning everyone)..... but i'll keep thinking......Even if I cant think of soemthing to reply, I must say that I see your side a little clearer now.... "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NIN posted 02-10-200108:15 AM freegrace Member 945 Posts Member since: 10-31-2000 Rictus ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I saw that it was an old email. It was just that I read it for the first time this week when I was checking to see if I got an email from Adolph. The email address I sent you was much better because I check it every day. Interesting point. I don't know if you saw my point to Webster about Russia. Since you are in a culture that is fairly racially homogeneous, is there still discrimination? If so, based on what...Freegrace Here is some information on gnosticism and why it was rejected by the early church from bible.org: quote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Gnosticism 1. The problem of origin- system largely post-NT, elements earlier 2. General definition- loose syncretistic system 3. Chief characteristics in Gnostic systems a. The true God is transcendent and unknowable b. A radical dualism pervades reality (spirit- good; material-bad) c. A person⤙s true ⤜self� is a divine spark d. Gnostic salvation was deliverance from ignorance e. The ⤜saved� soul returns to the Transcendent, true God f. Divine distant, served through intermediaries 4. Influence on/Contrast to early Christianity I Cor.- lack of moral concern for body Christology; approachable/knowable God ------------------------------------------------------------------------ quote: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ One of the earliest and most potent threats to early Christianity came from the heretical group known as the Gnostics. Blending elements of Christianity, Greek philosophy, and oriental mysticism, the Gnostics denied the orthodox view of God, man, and the world, and Christ. The apostle John included them in the camp of the Antichrist. The Gnostics were so called because of their view of revelation. The word gnosis is the Greek word for ⤜knowledge.� In many cases the Gnostic heretics did not make a frontal assault against the apostles or against the apostolic teaching of Scripture. In fact, many of them insisted that they were genuine, Bible-believing Christians. It wasn⤙t that they rejected the Bible; they just claimed an additional source of knowledge or insight that was superior to or at least beyond the knowledge of Scripture. The ⤜Gnostikoi� were ⤜those in the know.� Their knowledge was not derived from intellectual comprehension of the Scripture or by empirical research, but was mystical, direct, and immediate. God ⤜revealed� private, intuitive insights to them that carried nothing less than divine authority. Here is a typical Gnostic statement: We cannot communicate with God mentally, for He is a Spirit. But we can reach Him with our Spirit, and it is through our Spirit that we come to know God . . . This is one reason God put teachers (those who are really called to teach) in the church⤔to renew our minds. Many times those who teach do so with only a natural knowledge that they have gained from the Bible and other sources. But I am referring here to one of the ministry gifts. Those who are called and anointed by the Spirit to teach. God has given us His Word, and we can feed upon that Word. This will renew our minds. But He also puts teachers in the church to renew our minds and to bring us the revelation of the knowledge of God's Word. (Kenneth E. Hagin, Man on Three Dimensions (Tulsa, Okla. Faith Library, 1985), 1:8,13.) Notice that this quotation does not include a direct assault on the Bible. The Bible is recognized as God's word. But in order to understand the Bible we need something beyond our natural mental ability. We need the Spirit-anointed teachers to "bring us the revelation of the knowledge of God's Word." This is a typically Gnostic statement, but the quote is not from Valentinus or any of the other early Gnostics. It is from the pen of a modern missionary of Gnosticism, Kenneth E. Hagin. It is from Hagin's Man on Three Dimensions. Hagin's theology echoes the tripartite epistemology of early Gnosticism (man as having three separate entities: body, soul, and spirit). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 Thes 2:16 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word." "The reason true atheists (not your average "I-don't-like- what-mommy-and-daddy-say-so-I-hate-God" rebellious teen) are depressed is because atheism offers no hope, only proof. Proof of no hope." Mike Sorrow posted 02-10-200111:01 AM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 A bump for you guys... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *bump* because we need some intelligence on this web "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NIN posted 02-10-200111:46 AM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 Another bump of appreciation.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ It's time for cake and sodomy, so I will bump this... "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NIN posted 02-10-200101:02 PM devilmunchkin Member 3003 Posts Member since: 08-19-2000 emerges from her 2 week roller coaster ride ------------------------------------------------------------------------ i'm back..at least for the moment. These past two weeks have been so hellacious that i slept a solid 14 hours last night. i could easily go back to sleep now. ok..freegrace, anyone, during these 14 hours i had a series of very very transcendental dreams that i have to get off my chest. just thinking about the magnanimity makes me want to cry. so here it goes and i do my best to recant them: It all begins in this two story house that i'm not familiar with at all, it's like a beach house i guess and my whole family is there. We learn that 2 hurricanes are approaching. it comes, i see hug waves bashing against the house..it's scary. Suddenly it over and we're automatically on the roof. To get supplies we have to swim back into the house though open windows. Sometimes the water isn't high so we wade around, even though outside it goes to the roof. we hurry to get supplies because apparently there is still another hurricane to go. We can't see any land..everything is water. But before it comes we're back inthe house nad alot of people are with us. it suddenly becomes this enormous house. much like a warehouse. My brother, sister, i guess what would be their friends, are playing it what seems to be hidden passage (open..not dark or scary) and running from my stepfather. Then i'm in a room with a tall black man...a bathroom with 2 showers. everytime i pass he wants to make love to me (how weird!!). i pass by a few times and enter what a big hufe room...i sit ina coner and people are bussing about. then the next hurricane comes and waves are bashing the house. It begins to rock. I'm by a window and have blankets around me. Then the house begins to violently away. people are being thrown out. then it summersaults...and i'm fine..not even hurt by it. But others are dying...in fact,,..everyone but me is it seems. the house comes to a stop...though it's teetering. then is summersaults again..almost flying this time. water rushes in and i get out...i'm the only one. and i swim to what i remember reffering to as Noah's Ark.. I remember thinking that I'll be damed if i'm gonna die. I get there and it's not anywhere big as it should be. It's a little canoe, with long banana shapped wooden wedges in it. i grap on and float to an island. My parents are there, and church services are going on. They say that God has flooded the earth again and killed all the nonbelievers (i'mthinking..well..he missed one). I walk right out in the middle of a stage that has people singing hymns and stuff. After i get off, i drop to my knees and begin praying. I do this a loooong time. I'm even crying..(i never woke up th). I learn that god is killing (making them disappear) the ones who lived through the hurricanes on accident. I end up on a golf course and i have a gun. Except it shoots arrows and i shoot an old man in the knee. Then i play golf. really weird. then the old man comes up to me and bitches me out for shooting him in the leg. I'm then in a mall. My mother, sister, and brother and I are there. I end up at a lady's house with my family. She's asian and passing out junk food as rations to people. SHe gives me a bigger ration though. I remember thinking that god will eventually get to me but that i also believe in him now. then my andmy mother, brother, and sister are in a mall. my stepdad has disappeared (maybe god got him). We;re looking for things..i 'm not sure what. and people are still disappearing. We walk into a store, like spencers perhaps andlook for halloween costumes. ....then the phone rings. This veryveryvery much freaked me out. No i wasn't reading Left Behind last night. NO i still don't believe in god but all the same that dream has severley freaked me out. what do u think? THROUGH ME YOU GO INTO PAIN THAT IS ETERNAL, THROUGH ME YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE LOST. JUSTICE MOVED MY EXALTED CREATOR: THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME, THE SUPREME WISDOM AND THE PRIMA LOVE. BEFORE ME ALL CREATED THINGS WERE ETERNAL, AND ETERNAL WILL LAST. ABANDON EVERY HOPE YOU WHO ENTER HERE. Dante's Inferno, Canto III posted 02-10-200103:13 PM BeautifulDEATH Member 233 Posts Member since: 02-02-2001 appreciate the sharing and discussion ------------------------------------------------------------------------ @rictus - YEAH - I'm still here! I love this place. I'm awaiting any more into on Gnostic Christianity. To all who've posted on here - I think if we decide that we understand all there is to comprehend in this spiritual world, we stop growing. Discussion like this is so growth inspiring, healing, and positive in so many ways! I'm so glad I found this site. My internet connection bites - so I'm not able to log on for long before getting dumped off. Hopefully I can get this fixed. I am a woman with many beliefs, so I'll be around for a long time reading and sharing. "The more I observe nature, the more I realize that the line between death and beauty is blurred - they are one and the same."- dawneagle posted 02-10-200103:56 PM devilmunchkin Member 3003 Posts Member since: 08-19-2000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ i'm not seeing how gnosticism says anything controversial THROUGH ME YOU GO INTO PAIN THAT IS ETERNAL, THROUGH ME YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE LOST. JUSTICE MOVED MY EXALTED CREATOR: THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME, THE SUPREME WISDOM AND THE PRIMA LOVE. BEFORE ME ALL CREATED THINGS WERE ETERNAL, AND ETERNAL WILL LAST. ABANDON EVERY HOPE YOU WHO ENTER HERE. Dante's Inferno, Canto III posted 02-10-200104:41 PM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 DevilMunchkin: My not so important interpratation.... take it with a grain of salt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I may not be a dream interprator but here goes anyway... (Damn... how I waste my time on a saturday evening.... and no, this probably didn't take extremly long to write, I'm putting out my thoughts as they come, and I type pretty damn fast.) The house represents you, a "house of god" somewhat. (if you believe in god, then thats what it is) If you don't believe in god, but still in spirituality, then you can look at it this way. A "house of god" is often reffered to as a temple, and since the house represents you, then we could say that the house would be sometjing to the effect of "My body is a temple", your subconcious is trying to tell you something here, maybe just that. That your body is a temple. With all stories, there is at least 2 sides. We could say that it is your side, and someone elses side, but lets look at it a bit deeper, because you stated that you werent familiar with it. (maybe it is a call to back when you were discovering yourself, or maybe it is a representation of you now.) Your life story to you in this instance, which would be the "story" you like about yourself, and then the "story" that you don't like about yourself. But now, something new has been added to the mix, and you don't know what it is. Maybe some deep thought would help you to discover it. (your subconsious definitly is sending a message with this, and it shows up in this post, other wise you would have said, "It starts out in a 2 floor house") If your subconscious is trying to send a message about this part of you that is new, the part of you that you don't understand, or maybe a part your family doesn't understand. (Im going to take a leap with this and guess that you are of course a Manson fan, and that someone, or some people in your family don't fully understand why, and they might even be a little scared of it) The beach house might represent somewhere where your family would like to be, (or where you yourself would like to be, making your family a representation of yourself (Think of all the family members that were in your dream, and ask yourself how they resemble you)) or how they would like their relationship with you to be, thier understanding of you to be, a "beach house". A place that is fun, relaxing, comfortable, warm, etc. The 2 hurricanes approching are another reference to the two sides of the "story". Both are forces to be reckoned with, and neither should be taken lightly. And, just like a hurricane, both sides of your "story" can be scary at times, because your not sure which you should be. Depending how far along in the discovery of yourself you have gotten, this could be a pivitol point in your life, that your sub concious is expressing through this dream. (Im assuming that you have, like me, cast aside the person you used to be, found the true you, and are now fully exploring your individuality) And yet, as we progress through life, there is always a side to ourselves that were are afraid of, the side that is new, the side that is unfamiliar. The "waves crashing against the house" are the trials and tribulations that we all go through in life. In your exploration of yourself, you have inevitably found the origional flaws of yourself that you didn't like, and you at one point said to yourself that you were going to strive to be a new person. Someone that you liked, and someone that was truly you. You reached this point, and "Suddenly its over and we're automatically on the roof". (but this dream is scary still, so we will assume that as with all journeys it is never over, there is always a new part of ourselves to be found around the bend, and that your subconcious is trying to warn you of rough times ahead) Swimming back into the house to get supplies may represent your journey taking you into a dark place (a "posiden adventure" if you will). (how would you feel if this actually did happen? You would be very scared swimming around in a house that has water up to the roof) A place where you will once again be tested, a test that you give yourself even, or a test that of life that just happens to come your way. The places in the house that you and your family are able to wade around in is still apart of the dangerous adventure, and though you are not finished, there are parts that you will easily overcome. These "supplies" are the lessons you will learn on this journey. Through most hardships in life, people look for a fast way out.. "we hurry to get supplies". And this only serves to make the journey that much harder. "there is still another hurricane to go" (your subconcious is telling you to take it as it comes, because it will only get harder if you don't,) "before it comes...back in the house....people....becomes this enourmous house...". You will find on this journey that there will be people not just to help you along, but also to expirience a part of the journey with you. (maybe those who do not fully understand you, will come along with you on the journey and gain a better understanding of you as well as you gaining a better understanding of yourself) "...playing in what seems to be a hidden passage..." Through your journey you will find what seems to be a quick escape, and you will take it. (you must take it, your subconsious wants you to know this). "running from my step father" Your sub conscious wanted you to take the passage because if you didn't there would be something even tougher along the path (most people don't identify well with step parents, which would make this the reason you had to enter the passage, to get away from something even more terrible? and your "step father" would be a new danger that you had never counted upon, or never expirienced before) The tall black man that wants to make love to you, represents the devil and a huge temptation. (the devil has often been reffered to as black or something dark, and tall or big. and the devil brings what, temptation. (the devil in this case being something evil, another bridge in life that you must cross as some point, "i pass a few times" this devil will tempt you more than once) Your sub conscious is telling you not to worry, and to go with what you know is right to make it through this part of the journey. "a bathroom with two showers..." This means that you will make it through this part of the journey, and that someone will be with you, and you will both come out of this clean. "enter a huge room" the journey now gets bigger again, and even more dangerous. "waves are bashing against the house...house begins to rock...violently..." you will face more hardships, even bigger than the last. "by a window and blankets all around me" after dealing with some of these hardships, you will come through alright. "Then the house begins to violently away. people are being thrown out." the hardships keep coming though, this time not for you, but those who accompany you on this journey. "and i'm fine..not even hurt by it. But others are dying...in fact,,..everyone but me is it seems." they will be hurt at this point in the journey but not you. "the house stops but is still teetering" for a short while you will feel that the journey has ended, but it will in fact not have ended. And then it suddenly summersaults and flys away, the journey has not ended, and you must trudge on. "water rushes in and i get out...i'm the only one." The people on this journey with you will not make it to this point, or so you think. You realzie that your path is becomming blocked now, and that you must take a different means of travel. "and i swim to what i remember reffering to as Noah's Ark.. I remember thinking that I'll be damed if i'm gonna die." You arent ready to give up, not in the least, and you find a mode of travel for yourself, a safe haven if you will, or "Noahs Ark". "I get there and it's not anywhere big as it should be. It's a little canoe, with long banana shapped wooden wedges in it. " - You reach this safe haven, and you arent sure that it is going to do the trick and help you finish the journey. You eventually do make it through this part of the journey, and reach the island, and your parents are there. It appears the people who accomponied you on this journey havent made it through the last part yet. "God has flooded.. killed all the non believers"... maybe in a deeper prespective the people who came along with you on the journey are people you don't really care for. They eventually don't make the journey and survive like you did, but you somehow think that you werent meant to make it this far. (god being you in this case) "I learn that god is killing (making them disappear) the ones who lived through the hurricanes on accident." Someone has made it through the journey with you, and you are glad, but you soon realize that they aren't supposed to be there and you shun them from your new found self. (your "island" if you will) the golf course I don't know how to interprate, but the gun that doesn't shoot bullets only arrows might be... It might be a deep connection to Manson and his hatred of "guns". This one though isn't what a gun is regularly, this one is a good gun, (in a way) and instead of shooting bullets with the intent to kill the old man (who would represent the old ideals that you and others used to have. Maybe ideals that you after this journey will cast aside), but to leave him with a at least some of the pain he has given you. (the pain those people, with those old ideals have hurt you with) (okay I think I have it now on the golf, it is a game is it not?) Golf is the Game of life. (Holy shit, I think this is all pulling together now...) And the 18 holes on the golf course represent the journey once again, they represent Adulthood (18 being legal adult age). You know know that this has been a true journey into your adulthood. Youre in the mall, in a way you havent totally found your new self and you are still searching for it. (Your shopping in a mall in other words, notice how in the story you don't byuy anything yet, you just look). You are still not finished looking for yourself. Your stepdad has dissapeared, may mean that (if you don't truly identify with your step dad) you never really do, and now he is more out of your life than he already might have been. (you have escaped him (for now?)) "We're looking for things..i 'm not sure what. and people are still disappearing." Youre still looking for yourself, and along the journey people will dissapear as usuall, they will not make the full journey. "....then the phone rings." (Your sub conscious has just called to congratulate you on making it through the journey...) You realize that the journey into adulthood is over, and that you have made it through pretty good, and you you have gotten in touch, or "called" your spirt to let it know.... Maybe this will serve to help you understand a journey you are about to take, and that is what the whole dream is for........ But then again, im just a raving lunatic! *cackling with an insane glee* "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NI [This message was edited by Webster on 02-10-2001 at 06:24 PM.] posted 02-10-200104:56 PM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 A bump.. to keep it up top... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ where it should rightfully be.... "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NIN posted 02-10-200105:46 PM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 Its down at the bottom I see.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ NOOOOO! This must not be....*bump* "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NIN posted 02-10-200106:24 PM ADOLF GANDHI Member 976 Posts Member since: 01-30-2001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LMAO WITH RICTUS AND ROSA. KEY WORD:WITH FREEG. - I WROTE IT DOWN.I WILL.YOU DON'T HAVE TO POST IT ANYMORE. I UNDERSTAND. IN FACT. YOU CAN GO DELETE IT. ADOLF----THE ONE YOU LOVE TO HATE.............. GANDHI-----------THE ONE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AND IS RARELY SEEN ON THIS MISERABLE COMBATANT SITE! posted 02-10-200106:34 PM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 Bump for the greatest thread around... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ bump.. "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NIN posted 02-10-200107:15 PM Webster Member 181 Posts Member since: 02-07-2001 Another bump for you all... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Just another shameless bump "If Jesus died for our sins, lets at least give him his moneys worth.... " -Me "I am the bullet in the gun, I am the truth from which you run" - NIN posted 02-10-200107:44 PM All times are PST . << next newest topic | next oldest topic >> | Page:Next Page | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 |
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