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freegrace
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God Bless You Adolph
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The most annoying thing about this bbs is losing your posts. I always try to do a Ctrl C to copy everything before I post it. I learned the hard way. Thanks for your condensed version. It gave me a lot of insight into you. You seem to have a great heart. Your name has come a long way from the first one. I still pray for you regularly and your habit. Well, I'm off to take a take home greek test. I have more homework in that class than I can possibly put up with. Thanks for making my evening.

Your friend and biggest fan,

Freegrace

P.S. By the way, I worked out tonight. I love to do it. Unfortunately I am not as well built as you are. I'm 5'8 and 185 but that has a lot of fat. The highlight of my life lately is I finally lifted 105 lb dumbells on my dumbell press last week. I had been stuck at 100 for a long time. I prefer dumbell press to bench because I don't cheat as much. It seems amazing to me that you did drugs and lifted at the same time. Didn't that affect your workout and your body building? Goodnight.

2 Thes 2:16 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word."

"The reason true atheists (not your average "I-don't-like- what-mommy-and-daddy-say-so-I-hate-God" rebellious teen) are depressed is because atheism offers no hope, only proof. Proof of no hope." Mike Sorrow

posted 02-23-200107:56 PM     



Tu Es Petra
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QUICK POST
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WHY I COME HERE ?

I WAS TALKING CRAP..

I was talking about theories that people glorify or try
to entice people into believing........

EXAMPLE:
SATANISM,
To my understanding it is about self gratification .......that self gratification or whatever benefits yourself is a good thing. I think there was another
word for this.........."selfishness" I don't know.I'm not
an expert in Satanism nor do I want to be.I don't want to
study it!Sorry people!!Call me closeminded and ignorant
because I don't want to research Satanism .....but.....
I don't want to study why flies are attracted to shit either. LOL. But .........
If I'm even close ..................
Isn't this all about me,me,me,me ????
How about family,family,family????
How about future??????
If all we are worried about is ourselves then
don't we throw away a bunch of morals !!!!
I THINK SO!!!!!!
If I didn't have any morals or concern or care
for other people and the future then maybe I
would research Satanism more.But in my opinion
Satanism eliminates to many morals.
But I believe in helping others to make
a better life is needed.
Charity and hope are needed.
Many times it will come back to you.

You reap what you sow.

If you are just worried or care about yourself
then ............most likely .......
Yourself is all you will ever have.

If you show love and caring and kindness towards
others ..........most likely............
You will get love and caring and kindness back.

I just don't understand the big attraction to
being selfish and only concerned with myself???
It's too fucking lonely!!!!!!!!

The end.

ONLY THE BABY SHEEP FOLLOW ME TO HARASS

[This message was edited by ADOLF GANDHI on 02-23-2001 at 09:04 PM.]

posted 02-23-200108:58 PM     



devilmunchkin
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i have grown very uninterested in this post



THROUGH ME YOU GO INTO PAIN THAT IS ETERNAL,
THROUGH ME YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE LOST.
JUSTICE MOVED MY EXALTED CREATOR:
THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME,
THE SUPREME WISDOM AND THE PRIMA LOVE.
BEFORE ME ALL CREATED THINGS WERE ETERNAL,
AND ETERNAL WILL LAST.
ABANDON EVERY HOPE YOU WHO ENTER HERE.

Dante's Inferno, Canto III


posted 02-23-200111:14 PM     



freegrace
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10-31-2000

Devilmunchkin and Adolph
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Devilmunchkin...I'm sorry to hear that. I guess I haven't been talking enough about the OT so you can beat me over the head with it to entertain yourself. LOL. J/K. I still enjoy coming here. Sorry I couldn't IM you earlier but I had to take a take home Greek test which I bombed. I decided to check my email before I did but I didn't have time to chat or I'd forget everything I crammed into my head (actually I forgot it all anyway so I should have just IM'd you).

Adolph...Interesting post on Satanism. Yes, I agree with you that if all you care about is yourself than that is all you will have. That is very insightful what you said. I also believe that the Bible is right when it says that you reap what you sow. I always try to be nice to people because I know that God will bless me back somehow. It may not be with that specific person, but I always try to lend love even when it is not wanted or rejected. If you plant seeds of love you will reap love. Plant seeds of hate and you will always reap hate.

Well, God bless you all. I'm off to bed...freegrace

2 Thes 2:16 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word."

"The reason true atheists (not your average "I-don't-like- what-mommy-and-daddy-say-so-I-hate-God" rebellious teen) are depressed is because atheism offers no hope, only proof. Proof of no hope." Mike Sorrow

posted 02-23-200111:53 PM     



Tu Es Petra
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GEE!

I WONDER WHO THAT CONDESCENDING REMARK
WAS AIMED AT ???

TYPICAL.

SIGH.

EVERYONE KEEPS TELLING ME YOU CAN'T
BE ACCURATE WITH GENERAL STATEMENTS
CONCERNING PEOPLES ATTITUDES ON THIS
SITE.

MAYBE I WON'T GET A BULLS EYE BUT I
BET I COULD GET CLOSE.  <<<AT DEVILMUNCHKIN

ADOLF=SARCASTIC NEGATIVE INSTIGATING S.O.B.
GANDHI=SERENE PEACEFUL PERSON WHO WOULD RATHER AVOID CONFLICT

posted 02-24-200102:00 AM     



Tu Es Petra
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02-16-2001


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I WILL STEP ASIDE AND NOT TRY TO
DOMINATE THIS THREAD.
BUT........I DON'T REALLY SEE
WHAT'S WRONG WITH A BUNCH OF
LITTLE POSTS. I MEAN THEY DON'T
TAKE ANY MORE TIME TO READ THAN
THE TERM PAPERS SOME PEOPLE POST.
WAR AND PEACE.

ADOLF=SARCASTIC NEGATIVE INSTIGATING S.O.B.
GANDHI=SERENE PEACEFUL PERSON WHO WOULD RATHER AVOID CONFLICT

posted 02-24-200102:08 AM     



freegrace
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10-31-2000

Hey Adolph
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I don't know what your relationship with Devilmunchkin is like but I didn't sense that her post was aimed to be taken personally. We'd have to ask her but I think the main issue is that we have often talked about theological issues and lately the focus has been on internal conflict. Devilmunchkin is a very thoughtful person and she has a great deal to add to the thread. I am guessing that there has not been enough posted lately to spark her interest or her mind. As I said before, I think it is good that we do not discuss these issues face to face. In your case, you could probably beat us all up if we disagreed with you. On this thread, the main weapon is the mind (and in my case the mind and the Spirit). Wage your battles with the mind and you will be surprised at how interesting the discussion becomes. Attacking the person is easy, but fighting with ideas is much more challenging and more invigorating...freegrace

2 Thes 2:16 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word."

"The reason true atheists (not your average "I-don't-like- what-mommy-and-daddy-say-so-I-hate-God" rebellious teen) are depressed is because atheism offers no hope, only proof. Proof of no hope." Mike Sorrow

posted 02-24-200102:05 PM     



Rictus
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quote:
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On this thread, the main weapon is the mind (and in my case the mind and the Spirit).
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Not just in your case friend. 


quote:
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Wage your battles with the mind and you will be surprised at how interesting the discussion becomes. Attacking the person is easy, but fighting with ideas is much more challenging and more invigorating...freegrace
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Amen.
To that end, I will clarify further and explain some of my earlier statements to you freegrace, if you would hear them. Stay well my friend.


Me.

Random Quote club 2001 - member No. 1
"All the drugs in this world
Won't save her from herself..."

*^*Co-founder and proud member of the blackjack appreciation society. She's tiny but she rules.*^*
"Kill The Cheese!!!" - Eliza (who I love)

"No one is a nigger" - Order in an Artificial Chaos

posted 02-24-200102:26 PM     



freegrace
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10-31-2000

Rictus
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LOL. Yes faith usually involves more than the head. I would love to read your thoughts. On the surface, I disagree with them but I am sure that you thought about them extensively. I really like you and Adolph. Hopefully this conflict will blow over so we can get back to talking about theology. I really like the way things started off between you two. That's why I included your previous quote. How's life in England? Are you worried about Mad Cow disease? Talk to you later...Freegrace

2 Thes 2:16 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word."

"The reason true atheists (not your average "I-don't-like- what-mommy-and-daddy-say-so-I-hate-God" rebellious teen) are depressed is because atheism offers no hope, only proof. Proof of no hope." Mike Sorrow

posted 02-24-200104:03 PM     



BeautifulDEATH
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02-02-2001

Gnostic Christianity
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Rictus : Where did you reply? I can't find it.




posted 02-25-200105:50 AM     



Rictus
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06-05-2000


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@beautifulDEATH:top of page 26.


Me.

Random Quote club 2001 - member No. 1
"All the drugs in this world
Won't save her from herself..."

*^*Co-founder and proud member of the blackjack appreciation society. She's tiny but she rules.*^*
"Kill The Cheese!!!" - Eliza (who I love)

"No one is a nigger" - Order in an Artificial Chaos

posted 02-25-200109:24 AM     



devilmunchkin
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Member since:
08-19-2000

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adolph: it was not aimed at you.



THROUGH ME YOU GO INTO PAIN THAT IS ETERNAL,
THROUGH ME YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE LOST.
JUSTICE MOVED MY EXALTED CREATOR:
THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME,
THE SUPREME WISDOM AND THE PRIMA LOVE.
BEFORE ME ALL CREATED THINGS WERE ETERNAL,
AND ETERNAL WILL LAST.
ABANDON EVERY HOPE YOU WHO ENTER HERE.

Dante's Inferno, Canto III


posted 02-25-200111:47 AM     



Axid Suicide
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11-26-2000


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All apologizes for this, but I just wanted to be somewhere in the thread. Do continue...

Guns (Peace)
God (Love)
Government (Empathy)

*And what have I become, my sweetest friend? Everyone I know, goes away in the end...*

*Dead I am the God, hound of hell I cry!
Devil on your back... I CAN NEVER DIE!!!*



Yes, God could call me a disgruntled employee...

posted 02-25-200112:22 PM     



Rosa_McGee
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08-16-2000


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just a suggestion... i know i havn't posted anything for a rather long time, but what about re-starting this on a new topic, with a new discussion ... it's become so long, and so full of things not directly belonging to the discussion.....




posted 02-25-200112:32 PM     



Lord of the Nazgúl
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Rictus,

I just (yes, just) read your first long post on the first page, and I just wanted to say that I completely agree with you on the inclusive thing. I find my own beliefs to be just that - my own. I know they would not work for a lot of people, and therefore I don't try to force them on other people (in fact, I don't really even tell them to other people).

The fact that it's inclusive made it all the more hilarious to me when Adolf Ghandi called me a hypocrite. I'm sure he'll have no recollection of the incident and just call me a hypocrite again, but it's hard to put a label like that on someone when you don't even know what they're beliefs are and therefore can't know what they're contradicting.

Just had to say that. Continue ignoring me ...

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There is only one difference between a madman and me. I am not mad.
- Salvador Dali

BBS Poetry Club
BBS Club for non-smoking teetotaling drug-free vegetarian celibate stoics - member no: 1

posted 02-25-200112:47 PM     



Tu Es Petra
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796 Posts
Member since:
02-16-2001

LORD OF NAZGUL
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FUCK OFF.

You followed me around to every post I made!
If I replied to a post,you had something smart ass
to say.
Rictus did this for a while too.
That's why I got bent .
I defend myself.
I said let's stop at least 4 MOTHERFUCKING TIMES!!!!
YOU ASSHOLES COULDN'T LET GO!!!!!
YOU SEEM LIKE YOU STILL CAN'T NAZGUL!
SO FUCK OFF.

YOU ARE STILL OBSSESED.
GET OVER IT.....
OR LEAVE ME ALONE.
IF YOU PEOPLE WOULD JUST LEAVE ME ALONE
I'M OUT OF THIS THREAD FOREVER.

HITLER THOUGHT CHRISTIANITY WAS FOR
WEAKLINGS TOO.

I'M OVER THIS THREAD IF YOU
GUYS WOULD LEAVE MY NAME OUT
OF IT AND JUST LEAVE ME ALONE!!

I THINK THIS IS THE 5TH TIME
I'VE ASKED.

ADOLF=SARCASTIC NEGATIVE INSTIGATING S.O.B.
GANDHI=SERENE PEACEFUL PERSON WHO WOULD RATHER AVOID CONFLICT

[This message was edited by ADOLF GANDHI on 02-25-2001 at 02:03 PM.]

[This message was edited by ADOLF GANDHI on 02-25-2001 at 03:29 PM.]

posted 02-25-200101:39 PM     



Tu Es Petra
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FREEGRACE
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I don't attack anyone by name or personally
until they attack me first.
The whole thing with Rictus started
over a post a made about faggots and
cocksuckers!! LOL. There were no names
involved!!!!!!!!!!NO NAMES!!
UNTIL!!!!!
RICTUS got bent over one of
these posts and started attacking me
directly.I have been defending
myself EVERSINCE!!!!!!
NOW THIS NAZGUL ASSHOLE IS DOING
THE SAME THING!!!!

I HAVE ASKED FOR IT TO STOP
MANY TIMES !!!

I think Rictus is over it.
I know I am, as long as I'm
not followed around for a
vengeful hateful purpose.

FOR THE 5TH OR 6TH TIME NOW!!!

LEAVE ME ALONE!!!

I WILL DO THE SAME!!!

I don't see what's so difficult
about that.I don't think it's
an unreasonable request.

I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO ANYONE
ELSE HERE !!! I REALLY DON'T!!
SO PLEASE LEAVE MY NAME OUT
OF ANY POSTS.I WILL DO THE SAME.

I HOPE THIS IS GOODBYE.

ADOLF=SARCASTIC NEGATIVE INSTIGATING S.O.B.
GANDHI=SERENE PEACEFUL PERSON WHO WOULD RATHER AVOID CONFLICT

posted 02-25-200102:15 PM     



Lord of the Nazgúl
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Defending yourself through insulting me. Interesting tactic.

<------ look, I'm winking at you...

posted 02-25-200102:36 PM     



Tu Es Petra
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I know exactly why I CALLED YOU A HYPOCRITE.

You used to have a sig that said: I KICK ASS FOR THE LORD.

I said anyone that is as vengeful as you and follows
people around just to aggravate and instigate and continues
to do so when asked to stop IS NOT CHRISTIAN LIKE!!
I said if you claim to be a christian you are a hypocrite.
Surprised at what a memory I have ???
Never mind.
Your opinion means nothing to me.

Just leave me alone okay???
No more insults.
No more replies.
No more anything.
JUST LEAVE ME ALONE !!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT IS SO FUCKING DIFFICULT FOR
TO UNDERSTAND???

HAVE YOU ENOUGH CONTROL OR
MATURITY TO LEAVE ME ALONE ???

I WANT TO LEAVE THIS THREAD.
I'M SICK OF THE SOME OF THE
NON-FORGIVING VENGEFUL PEOPLE
HERE.

LET ME GO.
FORGET ME.
DO NOT MENTION ME.
LEAVEME ALONE.

ADOLF=SARCASTIC NEGATIVE INSTIGATING S.O.B.
GANDHI=SERENE PEACEFUL PERSON WHO WOULD RATHER AVOID CONFLICT

posted 02-25-200103:35 PM     



Lord of the Nazgúl
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ADOLF,

It was a quotation from one of my favorite movies...

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There is only one difference between a madman and me. I am not mad.
- Salvador Dali

BBS Poetry Club

BBS Club for non-smoking teetotaling drug-free vegetarian celibate stoics: member #1

posted 02-25-200103:44 PM     


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