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devilmunchkin
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why are you always fighting on here????
i need stability dammit.
skot left me freegrace.
my emotions are a mass of roller coaster turns and loops.
i don' treally want tobe a doctor.



THROUGH ME YOU GO INTO PAIN THAT IS ETERNAL,
THROUGH ME YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE LOST.
JUSTICE MOVED MY EXALTED CREATOR:
THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME,
THE SUPREME WISDOM AND THE PRIMA LOVE.
BEFORE ME ALL CREATED THINGS WERE ETERNAL,
AND ETERNAL WILL LAST.
ABANDON EVERY HOPE YOU WHO ENTER HERE.

Dante's Inferno, Canto III


posted 03-13-200109:46 PM     



freegrace
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10-31-2000

Devilmunchkin, Adolph, and Prarie
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Devilmunchkin...I'm sorry to hear that. As you know, I have been out of town and I got back late last night. Feel free to email me. Until Saturday, I'll be studying pretty intensely for a class I am far behind on.

Adolph...Thanks for your support. I have done the best I can. I don't know what more I could have done here. I tried to be as objective as possible and not be confrontational.

Prarie...The only question I didn't answer was the first one you gave about the bible. I spent a great deal of time responding to your question about my interpretation of the passages about John, the validity of the bible manuscripts and the issue that you blasted me about regarding the Pharisees when I hadn't answered the question in one day. The only reason I didn't answer the question about the Bible is because I rarely saw you on here and when I did you were mostly making fun of me so I didn't figure it was worth my time (please refer to your statements comparing me to the exhorcist, as well as your statements about my not answering questions). I didn't accuse you directly of being Hoodwink, I only said if it was you. As for Adolph, I think you are in no place to judge him. I have always said that I admire Adolph's desire to make his life better and to overcome his addictions. There have been times when I have agreed that I thought he was being too harsh. I have always tried to treat Adolph respectfully and he has always done the same to me. You on the other hand have repeatedly jumped on my case.

I can see that this thread is disintegrating into that which I was trying to avoid...a thread of arguing instead of fruitful discussion. I apologize for my part in this. I realize that I like many others have let my frustrations get the best of me. As a Christian I should know better.

Freegrace

2 Thes 2:16 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word."

"The reason true atheists (not your average "I-don't-like- what-mommy-and-daddy-say-so-I-hate-God" rebellious teen) are depressed is because atheism offers no hope, only proof. Proof of no hope." Mike Sorrow

posted 03-14-200111:08 AM     



LYNYRD SKYNYRD
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You're human freegrace.

I understand you're frustration.
Nobody likes to be constantly attacked by a hateful,vengeful
person,who only wants to demean your opinions or perspective.


I think email might be the wisest thing.
This sight has too many infidels,perverts,suicidal,depressed,hateful,combatitive psycho's!!

Most of the ones who want to debate, are egotistical radicals who have no inclination to admitting that one of
their ideas or views might be wrong.

P.S.
I SAW A CHRISTIAN SHOW WHERE THEY WERE VACCINATING
AFRICANS FOR T.B.,MOLARIA AND MANY OHTER DISEASES!!
I WONDER HOW MANY MILLIONS OF AFRICANS HAVE BEEN SAVED
FROM STARVING AND DISEASE BY CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!!!!!

?????????????????????????????????????????????????

LETS NOT LOOK AT THAT THOUGH!!!!

THAT'S TOO FUCKING POSITIVE FOR THIS SITE 

I AM FREE AS A BIRD.
AND THIS BIRD YOU CANNOT CHANGE.

posted 03-14-200106:53 PM     



freegrace
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10-31-2000

Thanks for the encouragement buddy
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I sent you an email today. Sorry I missed your others while I was out of town. I hope you are doing well. Yes, I know of several initiatives that Christians are doing in Africa and I think they do have a positive impact on the world. However, people often reflect on the bad. Oh well. Talk to you soon!

Freegrace

2 Thes 2:16 "Now may our Lord Jesus Christ Himself and God our Father, who has loved us and given us eternal comfort and good hope by grace, 17 comfort and strengthen your hearts in every good work and word."

"The reason true atheists (not your average "I-don't-like- what-mommy-and-daddy-say-so-I-hate-God" rebellious teen) are depressed is because atheism offers no hope, only proof. Proof of no hope." Mike Sorrow

posted 03-14-200107:00 PM     



Brian Mathers
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I haven't said shit in this post before and I hate this post but I just saw that my buddy ADOLF is in here and I just wanna dd that whatever he says is right. Don't argue with him cause he is smarter tahn you.

Are you debating about NIGGERS in here ?

I choose to have no life,
cause life sucks.

posted 03-14-200107:07 PM     



Grump
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i don't know y i waste my intelligent on u idiots.
--triangle thief

freegrace, it's nice of you to try to be so charitable to a-g, but it doesn't always seem to have too positive effect on him. or maybe the effect just doesn't last very long. he continues to be an asshole on this site--far worse than on this thread, though he does that here, too--every time i try to converse with him respectfully and charitably and intelligently, he ends up dissing me or just ignoring me. interesting, that.

devilmunchkin: sorry to hear about your troubles.

i have little interest in theology, truth be told, so i may leave this thread for good.

<ETH>¯

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posted 03-14-200111:11 PM     



Grump
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p.s. the idea that you get to heaven, get saved, whatever, simply by believing in jesus christ and that this has nothing to do with what you do and who you are as a person is one of the dumbest ideas i've ever heard. but then, it's moot to me because i don't believe in any of it.

but now i'm just getting hostile, so i'll leave.f

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posted 03-14-200111:34 PM     



LYNYRD SKYNYRD
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Why I ignore many people on this site............

BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO TALK TO THEM

I AM FREE AS A BIRD.
AND THIS BIRD YOU CANNOT CHANGE.

posted 03-15-200106:57 AM     



Grump
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l-s: yeah, right, whatever. you're scared of certain people who would make you actually think and confront things you don't want to. i know this about you. on the other hand, you like to spew your shit and bait people who don't know well enough to ignore you. pretty cool. good luck with the drugs and the kids.

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posted 03-15-200108:13 AM     



Grump
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devilmunchkin:
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i responded again to your "overhaul my life?" thread about academic degrees. don't know if it will be helpful, but ...

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posted 03-15-200108:22 AM     



devilmunchkin
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thanx grump. it was the complete opposite of what project said but i'm looking into it.
As far as the whole saved thing that you stated..wow..you put into layman's term alot of what i think except on a simplerlevel. It DOES seem ridiculous; at least to me, that the hypocrites who believe in perhaps a fictious god go to heaven though the mihgt have committed hideous crimes and injustives. And yes, i know that many become TRUE believers but that shouldn't erase everything. I see myself as a pretty forgiving person, but c'mon. at least send em to Purgatory for a littl ewhile. see..dante had some awesome ideas.a



THROUGH ME YOU GO INTO PAIN THAT IS ETERNAL,
THROUGH ME YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE LOST.
JUSTICE MOVED MY EXALTED CREATOR:
THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME,
THE SUPREME WISDOM AND THE PRIMA LOVE.
BEFORE ME ALL CREATED THINGS WERE ETERNAL,
AND ETERNAL WILL LAST.
ABANDON EVERY HOPE YOU WHO ENTER HERE.

Dante's Inferno, Canto III


posted 03-15-200108:46 AM     



devilmunchkin
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thanx grump. it was the complete opposite of what project said but i'm looking into it.
As far as the whole saved thing that you stated..wow..you put into layman's term alot of what i think except on a simplerlevel. It DOES seem ridiculous; at least to me, that the hypocrites who believe in perhaps a fictious god go to heaven though the mihgt have committed hideous crimes and injustives. And yes, i know that many become TRUE believers but that shouldn't erase everything. I see myself as a pretty forgiving person, but c'mon. at least send em to Purgatory for a littl ewhile. see..dante had some awesome ideas.a



THROUGH ME YOU GO INTO PAIN THAT IS ETERNAL,
THROUGH ME YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE LOST.
JUSTICE MOVED MY EXALTED CREATOR:
THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME,
THE SUPREME WISDOM AND THE PRIMA LOVE.
BEFORE ME ALL CREATED THINGS WERE ETERNAL,
AND ETERNAL WILL LAST.
ABANDON EVERY HOPE YOU WHO ENTER HERE.

Dante's Inferno, Canto III


posted 03-15-200108:46 AM     



devilmunchkin
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08-19-2000


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thanx grump. it was the complete opposite of what project said but i'm looking into it.
As far as the whole saved thing that you stated..wow..you put into layman's term alot of what i think except on a simplerlevel. It DOES seem ridiculous; at least to me, that the hypocrites who believe in perhaps a fictious god go to heaven though the mihgt have committed hideous crimes and injustives. And yes, i know that many become TRUE believers but that shouldn't erase everything. I see myself as a pretty forgiving person, but c'mon. at least send em to Purgatory for a littl ewhile. see..dante had some awesome ideas.a



THROUGH ME YOU GO INTO PAIN THAT IS ETERNAL,
THROUGH ME YOU GO AMONG PEOPLE LOST.
JUSTICE MOVED MY EXALTED CREATOR:
THE DIVINE POWER MADE ME,
THE SUPREME WISDOM AND THE PRIMA LOVE.
BEFORE ME ALL CREATED THINGS WERE ETERNAL,
AND ETERNAL WILL LAST.
ABANDON EVERY HOPE YOU WHO ENTER HERE.

Dante's Inferno, Canto III


posted 03-15-200108:46 AM     



Grump
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devilmunchkin: you're welcome, 3 times. 

re. saved vs. not saved: crock of shit. 'nuff said.<ETH>1?4

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posted 03-15-200109:01 AM     



LYNYRD SKYNYRD
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lol

Obsessed.

I don't need luck.

All I need is God,family,job and love.

Something you infidels don't understand.

I AM FREE AS A BIRD.
AND THIS BIRD YOU CANNOT CHANGE.

posted 03-15-200109:26 AM     



Lord of the Nazgúl
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Oh yeah, and the apparent need to come to this Board (thought you hate Manson and his fans), insult the other members, and stretch pages.

As for getting into heaven just for believing in Christ, I think what it means is that if you believe in a person like Christ, you believe in all of Him. You don't just believe he's the Son of God and that's what gets you in, you also believe in His teachings (the whole nine yards, to use a cheap saying). It's this belief in the whole thing (and if you're going to believe, you have to act on that belief all the time, not just when it's convenient) that will get you salvation. At least that's how I take it...

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We shall meet in the place where there is no darkness.

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posted 03-15-200110:11 AM     



Grump
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i pretty much count as a good christian as far as i can tell. the only thing is that i don't believe in christ's divinity or in god. but otherwise, i seem to be much more charitable and practice more christian virtues in my everyday life than someone like, oh, i don't know, let's just say for argument's sake.... adolf-gandhi. lol.r

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posted 03-15-200110:34 AM     



Rosa_McGee
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sorry about dropping away (freegrace, i havn't been ignoring you...) ... if anyone cares... probably not...

but right now i just can't make myself care about anything, anyone.... life doesn't matter... nothing does....

it's becoming spring here, getting warmer, flowers coming out... but i feel like this life, this world has nothing to do with me anymore... it's a weird feeling....
people drop away from my life, or i push them away... my phone is plugged off most of the times, anyway... if it wern't for my job i probably wouldn't be talking to anyone anymore.... don't really want to, anyway...

sorry...maybe i'll be back... if this will be still here after the next archive session

so, bye, everyone, for now...



posted 03-15-200101:25 PM     



LYNYRD SKYNYRD
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Hope you feel better Rosa !!!!!

I think you're a great person .

I AM FREE AS A BIRD.
AND THIS BIRD YOU CANNOT CHANGE.

posted 03-15-200106:20 PM     



LYNYRD SKYNYRD
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Obsessed.

I don't hide from anyone.

I avoid piles of shit when walking or talking

I AM FREE AS A BIRD.
AND THIS BIRD YOU CANNOT CHANGE.

posted 03-15-200106:27 PM     


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