- O G Landsverk
in 1961
published a book which contained information from
interviews with
several people regarding the stone. He prepared statements
of the
interviews from his notes, which were signed by the
people involved.
Admitted these people were remembering things from
60 years previously,
however their recollections seem strong regarding
the finding of the
stone. First from Landesverk himself:
"The statements were the result of exhaustive
questioning with these men
in mid-August of this year... Later the statements
were prepared from
carefully taken notes and mailed to the signators...
Each was
accompanied by a cover letter which stressed the
need for accuracy and
invited corrections and/or additions."
"The writer had not met any of these men personally
before the
interviews in mid-August. But even after brief contact,
he is convinced
that, without exception, they are honorable men,
that they are entirely
honest and that the things that they related are
the truth to the best
of their knowledge."
"The signed originals of these documents, together
with the cover
letters are on file with the Minnesota Historical
Society."
>
> The Statement of Arthur Ohman:
"There are a great many things that I remember
clearly about the
discovery of the Kensington runestone. Strangely
some things that I
probably should remember I have forgotten - such
for example as the
exact number of days after the discovery that the
stone and other
objects were hauled into our yard - and how many
days later it was that
the stone was pun ton display in Kenisngton. Of
course, none of us at
the time expected or dreamed that it would ever become
such a
controversial issue.Many things that I remember were
personal
experiences. There were many other events and facts
which were often
discussed among members of my family and our neighbors,
the Flaten
family, and about which there was full agreement
among them. This is an
account of some of these experiences, events and
facts.
One day in the late fall of the year 1898, after
my older brother Edward
had returned from school, he was sent out to my father
with an afternoon
lunch. Such lunches were customary when hard work
was being done away
from the house. We had no thermos bottles to keep
coffee hot in those
days.
Some time later Edward noticed a large flat rock
which had been
unearthed. Flat stones are not common in our district.
Edward became
interested in it and flicked some of the clay off
its face with his
cap. It was at this point he noticed that there
were strange symbols
engraved on the stone.
My father called our neighbor, Nils Flaten, at once.
Flaten was cutting
trees a short distance away across the fence that
separates their farms.
It so happens that Flaten had been at this spot previously
on this day.
My father and Flaten were good friends. They would
often visit with
each other when they were working in nearby areas.
As a matter of fact, Flaten was visiting my father
while he was felling
the particular tree which grew directly over the
runestone. The roots
of the tree gripped the stone so tightly that it
was flipped up on its
edge as the tree fell.
It was because of this experience that Flaten always
used to protest
'But how in the world could Ohman have put the stone
under the tree and
then make the roots grow so they gripped it so tightly!''
Since Flaten saw this stone being flipped up by the
roots of this tree
it is not possible that they were later confused
with any other stone
and tree.
It is reasonable to suppose that if Flaten had observed
the exposed
under-side of the stone at this time, he and not
Edward would have
discovered the inscription. It was common knowledge
in the Ohman and
Flaten families that the under-side of the stone,
as it was found, was
the inscribed side. But Flaten went back to his
own work. He was
called back to view the inscription, as was already
stated, later in the
afternoon of the same day.
I do not remember exactly how many days later it
was that my father
hauled the stump and the roots to his yard. It was
certainly within the
following week. The stump was lying by the woodpile
during a period of
two to four years after this date.
Many of the Ohmans and the Flatens, including myself,
were old enough to
remember this stump in the fall of 1898 and during
the years
thereafter. We were unanimous in the opinion that
the stump had been
severed from the trunk at least 18" above ground
level and that the
diameter at this height was 8" to 10".
In particular, my father and NIls
Flaten were experienced woodsmen who could judge
the diameter of a tree
quite accurately.
The tree had three or four main roots. Two of these
had grown across
the upper side of the stone in opposite directions.
When they reached
the edges of the stone, the grew vertically into
the ground. these
roots grew so tightly that it was turned up on edge
when the tree fell.
In order to free the stone, my father then had to
sever the roots near
the base of the stump. This is the reason that the
roots were separate
from he stump when they reached our yard.
When my father was removing the soil from around
the roots, his spade
naturally struck the stone at many points. he did
not cut off the roots
against the stone. This might have ruined his axe.
Instead, he dug
deeper and cut off the roots below the lower edge
of the stone.
This is the reason that the roots still gripped the
stone so tightly.
Later as was stated above, the roots had to be severed
near the base of
the stump in order to free the stone.
These things I have told exactly as they were agreed
on by my father, my
brother Edward, and Nils Flaten.
One of my older brothers, Olof, used to be able to
draw a section of the
stone, the stump, and the roots just as we all agreed
that they had
been. Edward had preserved such a sketch. When
he died the sketch was
passed on to my younger brother, William. When he
lived some miles
north of Bemidji some years ago his house burned
and this sketch was
lost.
I studied the sketch on several occasions, and recall
the details of it
quite well. The sketch which I have signed and which
is reproduced with
this statement is as accurate a copy as I could make.
I do not remember personally the time of year that
the stone was
discovered. But this was certainly some time in November.
This was
always the time that was given by the Ohman and Flaten
families, no
doubt largely on the authority of the adults, my
father and mother, and
Nils Flaten and his wife. The November date was
also common knowledge
in the Kensington community.
I am completely certain that no one in the Ohman
or Flaten families
could have, desired to, or actually did have any
part in the forgery.
My father was absolutely hones. Everyone in the
community knew and
acknowledged this. He was not a man for practical
jokes, hoaxing or
scheming. Furthermore, how could he possibly have
covered up such a
hoax with his own family and friends even if he had
wished to do so?
My father could not have possibly carved the inscription.
He wa not
ever more than a fair stonemason. He did not even
own stonemason's
chisels until considerably after 1898.
I recall a comical incident in this connection.
A Chicago University
professor asked my father for a copy of the inscription.
I do not
recall the professor's name or the year. Some time
later the professor
wrote that he had lost it and asked for a second
copy. But the
professor had not lost the first copy at all. After
he compared the two
copies he made this statement:
'This man could not possibly have carved the inscription.
He made too
many mistakes!'
The hill on which the runestone wa discovered was
never called an island
by the local people. It has not been surrounded
by water since the
earliest settler arrived. It was certainly not called
an island by my
family or the Flatens. Our farms surround this hill.
No one else has
any reason to call it anything.
Arthur Ohman Sept 26, 1961"
The sketch by Arthur Ohman appears in Landsverk's
book.
The statement of Olaus and John Flaten:
"This is a joint statement by myself, Olaus
Flaten, and my brother
John. Whenever the pronoun 'I" is used, the
statement is mine only.
When 'we' is used, this signifies that we moth agree
on the matter.
John was born in 1894. My year of birth was 1891.
I was approaching
the age of eight years in the fall of 1898 when the
runestone was
unearthed.
There are many things about the discovery that I
remember clearly. John
was less than five years of age in 1898. But he
recalls rather better
than most of us the things that were accepted as
factual about the
discovery by the Ohmans and by my family. The controversy
which arose
naturally lead to frequent and intense discussion
among us. This
severed to fasten in our memories many details which
would otherwise
have been forgotten.
We both lived with our father, Nils Flaten, on the
farm until 1916. The
member so the Ohman family were good neighbors and
nice friends. We
visited back and forth very often.
Mr. Ohman himself was an honest as well as a sensible
man. No one in
the Kensington community ever accused him of being
a forger. It was not
in his character to commit a hoax. We are certain
that he never studied
runes or knew anything about runes either before
or after the stone was
discovered. When Professor Breda published his very
erroneous and
misleading translation, Ohman made no objections
and made no suggestions
that it was incorrect.
Ohman was not a stonemason. We never saw him do
that kind of work. He
did not even own a stonemason's chisels until after
the year 1898. Our
father likewise had no skill as a stonemason. He
never owned
stonemason's chisels. He or Ohman could not possibly
have carved the
inscription.
Ohman was clearing land for cultivation oh his hilllside
that slopes
down to the Ohman-Flaten line fence when the stone
was discoverd. He
was removing all the trees from this area. The tree
that grew over the
stone was brought down in its natural turn. He did
not cut the tree from
the stump. Instead he uncovered the main roots and
cut them off. The he
pulled the tree down with a winch, stump roots and
all.
Our father was also grubbing a short distance away
on his side of the
fence. When the inscription had been noticed by
Edward, Ohman called
him over to view it. I recall that when he came
home from work he told
mother 'Ohman found a stone with an inscription on
it.'
Neither he nor Ohman had any idea the symbols were
runes. But our
father never doubted that, whatever it might be,
it was genuine. He
never suspected in the least that Ohman had any part
in a forgery.
Our father said that the roots of the tree had grown
very tightly around
the stone. He often stated that the diameter of
the trunk of the tree,
where it was cut away from t he stump, was at least
eight inches. Both
he and Ohman were expert woodsment who could judge
the diameter of a
tree accurately.
We never heard the tree was stunted. But the fact
was often brought up
that the tree had grown slowly. This was because
of its unfavorable
location in the clay soil of a steep hillside.
I remember seeing the stone on display in Ohman's
yard. This was a very
few days after the discovery. My best guess is that
it was two days
later. About two weeks later the stone was brought
to Kensington.
I have seen the mooring stone which is located downhill
from the
runestone site. This is on our fathers land and
only a few yards below
the Ohman-Flaten line fence. Our father was the
original settler on his
land. I am certain that he did not drill the hole.
I do not believe
that he ever drilled a hole in a rock in his life.
The 'runestone hill' never was called an island by
the Ohmans or our
family or by neighbors. Nor was it called an island
by the earliest
settlers. The hill has never been surrounded by
water since 1870.
Olaus Flaten, John Flaten, Oct 21, 1961"
I have not done any real study of the 'mooring stones'
issue, but if
Olaus is correct, the mooring stone nearest to the
KRS would have been
carved prior to any settling of the land (possibly
by the same hand as
did the stone??)
The statement of Henry Moen:
"The families of my father, Hans O. Moen and
of Olof Ohman were very
close friends. We had know the Ohman family since
1892. In 1898, the
year that the runestone was discovered, my father
had a shoe store in
Kensington and was working at his trade of making
boots and shoes.
My father, although he had no formal training in
law, helped Ohman with
some of his legal problems. My mother also helped
Mrs, Ohman at the
birth of several of her children. The families often
visited back and
forth. We knew the Ohman family very well.
One day late in the fall of 1898, Mr. Ohman called
on my father in his
store. I happened to be there. Ohman said that
yesterday he had
uncovered a large flat stone which had strange characters
on it. I
recall very distinctly that Ohman gave the time of
discovery as the day
before this visit. Ohman asked my father to come
out and inspect the
stone. My father had an active mind and a good deal
of curiosity. He
had his horse and buggy hitched up and drove out
there. I was almost
nine years old at the time and was permitted to go
along.
When we arrived, the stone and the stump of the tree
that hd grown over
it were on display in Ohman's yard. The greater
part of the roots which
held the stone had been cut off close to the stump
and were now separate
form the stump.
Ohman had cut the roots from t he stump. This had
been done to free the
stones from the roots. The roots had the shape of
a right angle. The
were flattened on the inside of the angel. They
had this shape because
the roots had grown tightly against the top surface
and around the two
opposite edge of the stone. I recall the stump was
lying in Ohman's
yard at least one year after this time.
When my father and I arrived a the Ohman farm, Roald
Benson was also
there. There may have been others present besides
the Ohmans but I do
not clearly recall this.
After we had viewed these objects, my father and
I got into a lumber
wagon with Mr. Ohman and one of his sons. We drove
across Ohman's farm
to view the hole from which the stone had been removed.
It was located
on Ohman's land near the southeast corner of his
farm. The spot was on
a hill in plain vie of the Nils Flaten house about
a quarter mile away.
A short distance below the site ran the Ohman-Flaten
line fence in a
north-south direction. A marsh lay between the fence
and the Flaten
buildings.
I remember this ride very well for two reasons.
A large black horse
which was one of the team that pulled the wagon,
interested me a great
deal. Also, I recall that the weather was so cold
that I was freezing.
This indicates that the time must have been late
fall.
My father thought that this must be an Indian monument
of some kind. He
suggested that the site of the discovery should be
excavated in a search
for related objects. This was actually done by a
group of men after the
ground had thawed the following spring. No objects
were found so far as
I know.
The information that the inscription was Gothic runes
came from outside
the Kensington area. This must have been quite
a while after the
discovery but I do not remember when or where the
information came from.
The hill on which the stone was found was never called
an island by
anyone around Kensington, nor has it ever been surrounded
by water since
the first settlers arrived.
The stone was brought to Kensington for display.
I do not remember
exactly how long this was after the discovery but
it must have been
about two weeks.
The stump was cut off about 18" above ground
level. I seem to recall
that the stump was about 7" in diameter where
it was cut off. But this
is quite vague to me and I have little training in
judging the diameter
of trees.
One fact I believe is of importance in this connection
- the tree was
growing in clay soil on a fairly steep hillside.
This would cause the
tree to grow slowly and to be affected by periods
of drought. The tree
was probably older than normal for its diameter.
Some professors and staff writers have accused Ohman
of carving the
inscription. Nothing could be more untrue. His
word was as good as his
bond. This has never been questioned in the vicinity
whre he lived.
It could be said that Ohman never attended church
services. But he knew
more about the Bible and its contents than most people
who do go to
church regularly. Writers who accuse a man of Ohman's
character and
standing in the community of committing a hoax and
of being a schemer
and forger simply do not know what they are talking
about.
Henry Moen, Sept 26, 1961"
> The statement of Arthur Osterberg
"I was born in 1882 and am therefore about 79
years of age. This
community has been my home except for a few years
elsewhere. I lived
here in 1898, the year that the Kensington runestone
was found, and the
years following.
Olof Ohman hauled his stone into
his yard on a stone
boat. His neighbor, Nils Flaten, helped him load
it. Thaw was common
knowledge in this community at the time so I heard
it from several
sources. I do not know the exact number of days
after the discovery that
this happened but it was certainly less than two
weeks.
Naturally quite a number of people viewed the runestone
and also the
stump and the roots of the tree that grew over the
stone, while it was
on display in Ohman's yard. But I cannot name such
persons. However,
my brother-in-law, William Sersland, told me that
he was a member of a
16 man threshing crew at the Ohman farm and that
they had inspected and
discussed these objects.
The stone was on display about two months here in
Kensington. Naturally
many people inspected it here and speculated on what
the symbols might
be. I recall parts of its surface were still caked
with clay. People
would brush the dirt away in order to try and make
out the symbols.
Arhur Osterberg, Sept 20, 1961."