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Election 99. Rackets, Rockets, Pickets, and Pick Pockets |
Saffron Affront Front
Back to the future. Blast from the past. Ballots are cast.
Saffron may rise on the mast at last.
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Re: Paranoid about the bogeyman in saffron |
Date: Thursday, September 16, 1999 8:22 AM
My dear Srivatsan (Good) Seshadri,
Can't you put money where your mouth is? What is with this Mo fashion of one liner comments? Start making your own opinions instead of being a traffic cop, that job is taken by Yashwant.
Sultan Shahin is a nice Hindu unlike your demon's disciples running around maligning their own religion, the list is familiar to you hence I would not repeat. The Savarkar definition of Hindu is the same as Persian definition of "Hindu."
I am paraphrasing not Savarkar's exact words, "All those who are born and brought up, reside and recite bunch of gobbledygook mantras and act and behave in the manner human, in a place geographically and politically called one time as 'British India,' are "Hindus," period.
I have this thingy about my "gaonwallah," Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, pretty evident from the way I thrash him in public but he was one goddamned visionary. There cannot be any divisions of a country among the natives such as modern India, Pakistan, Kashmir, Nepal, Bhutan, Tibet, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka.
The culture is a product of continuous reshaping of people's ideas about themselves and the powers they believe in, may that power be interpreted by one theology, philosophy or ordinary practice in mundane existence.
The current euphoria about this Savarkar invented gem of a mantra, "Hinduttva," is totally misplaced, out of date and out of line from Savarkar's pure nationalism and spiritualism associated with natives of British India. I am saying British India because that is what Savarkar thinking about, not Hindusthan of Bal Thackeray and bunch of Zandewalan Brahmin thugs, Gandhi killer Godse included.
Things have evolved, sometimes cataclysmically as the first invasion of white trash Aryans followed by or preceded by bunch of other invasions, not necessarily armed ones. People have accepted one or other themes and dropped those themes to adopt fresh themes. The current westernisation of Indian culture, however abhorrent to my good brother Yashwant is the latest in the series of emancipation of the society. The kurnel, however, remains as Savarkar envisioned, "Hinduttva," the essential glue that holds all these contrasting and contradictory pieces
together.
Savarkar lost his vision as he made a boo-boo. A forgivable offense, I am referring to his terroristic leanings and subsequent homosexual indulgence, both vehemently denied by the Brahmin bigots. The fact remains as to how much of anything that such visionaries as Savarkar and other thinkers have given to the "Hindus," the fake and fucked up common criminals like Lallu the kallu, Lal Kishen Advani, et al have internalized? Zero is my estimate.
The second Hindu Hitler, Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar is on record
accepting in its entirety, Savarkar's definition of "Hindu," not a religion, not a patriotism not even racial or sexual persona of the society. Where did Golwalkar's honest admission buried by the heinous Hindu cabal of saffron kind?
Hindus butcher and bury their great thinkers. Gautama Buddha, the great Hindu is no more a Hindu to these ogre of Brahmins than prophet Mohammed of Arabia. Mahatma Gandhi, a prince of peace was brutally murdered by these fanatic Brahmins because he was follower of Savarkar's "Hindu," concept in practice and in theory.
The ridiculous attempts of the kinds of Dr. Nagesh Rao of Dublin, Dr. Dayal Purohit of USA and fake Dr. Jai Maharaj bunch of deluded dunces makes Savarkar's concept of "Hindu," more urgent, nay, inevitable to make India a vibrant and progressive society that they dream of and drool over. Sid
Srivatsan Seshadri wrote in message
news:<37E03069.4E339DEC@worldnet.att.net>... > An interesting article...
> > cheers > vatsan > > http://www.indian-express.com/ie/daily/19990916/iex16053.htm
A known Hindu bastard, Pramod Panhar Talwar of Texas, who hides and unhides his RSS hyde, heinie, kibbutz, whatever, under various phony baloney high holy Hindu handles such as "PPT," "Pradip Parekh," and god knows how many others quips, rather shits: In article , "PPT"
wrote:
Pretty good article, Mr. Seshadri. The author says it like it is. He is one of the 16pct reformed Hindu-Muhmamadans who voted for BJP last election. All mullas like SHahbudding should be given one way ticket for Huj for rabble rousing.
Pradip Parekh To which sDivad replies:
What the fuck is hindu-mohammaden? Most gujus, including
you, think of yourselves as hindu-mohammaden.
Advani is a pathan, all of gujuland are pathan. Mohandas
was pathan. He fucked pathan women. Ballav Patel was a
pathan too. Now, go merge with Pakistan. SdivaD
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Of Ganges, Gangeskhans and Gungadins. |
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:15 AM
River Ganges, locally called 'Ganga,' is considered one of the
goddesses. A ritual bath in this river, especially at certain holy places is considered as a pass to heaven by almost all Hindus. There are such ritual baths on special occasions which are considered more than a firm reservation to the Hindu heaven and millions rush to nearest place on Ganges to perform this religious rite. Some do it daily the others in once in a lifetime. It is a majestic river and fed by monsoon rains as
well as melting of snow in Himalayas.
As the river brings plenty to the people it also brings deaths by dozens, nay, hundreds, perhaps millions when she breaks her boundaries and washes everything in her path due to unpredictable weather patterns. People do not mind such regular destruction. To die and burned at Kashi is to some Hindus is the top most honor.
The sacred spot where such burning should take place is so small and its value is so large that mere touching of fire and a cadaver is taken for a complete job. Such unburned cadavers are immediately thrown in the river to be washed down and become food for the river creatures or land on the banks to rot causing great pollution problem.
Dead bodies floating in Ganges could be lesser of the pollution problem. The human excreta flowing thru the entire length and breadth is much more lethal than few dead bodies. Add to that the habits of the villagers who not only bathe themselves but wash their animals, dirty laundry and make it a flowing garbage dump. Sometimes, perhaps, most of the times fertilizer and industrial effluents are released in the river with religious zealousness.
Whereas, lallu the kallu like heinous Hindus bang their chests to erect empty monuments for fictitious Aryan god like Rama and non Aryan, black god like Krishna the heinous Hindus otherwise do no make any honest efforts to clean up their holy Hindu mess. It becomes, then the job of hardworking individuals and NGO with limited authority and token, limited funds.
Professor Veer Bhadra Misra takes pain and pride in facing this
enormous problem like famous movie character Gungadin and fights with ferocity of a hero. As a matter fact Time calls him one of the seven heroes. Such heroes get no respect in the land of milk and honey, Mafia and money and heinous chest beating criminals like lallu the kallu, Lal Kishen Advani, home minister for the second time in succession.
River Ganges, for me is a sewer, period. I refused to even wash my feet in the river let alone take a ritual bath. The sights and sounds at Kashi are typical of crazy Hindus. All those mantra chanting gurus and mendicants roaming around whereas the object of their worship, river Ganges, chokes to her death was revolting to me.
Thanks to the Rediff dated October 21, 1999.
http://www.rediff.com/news/1999/oct/21ganga.htm
Sid Harth..."Did somebody say I am anti Hindu? You can bet your dollar that's who I am, and mighty proud of the fact."
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 9:35 AM
My heading also translates in Hindi/Marathi as 'yes we are Hindus.' What kind of Hindus are these hoodlums from saffron slums, these deluded 'dum dummies,' that is idiots with tails in Hindi? No more and no less terrorists, intransigent, not introspective or for that matter prospering future oriented pioneers.
These idiots spend all their time in the past glories, supposedly past glories, there is not a hint in the history that such fictitious accounts of glories ever existed. In their dreams, perhaps and their propaganda literature, brainwashing camps delivered soul stirring and muck raking sessions called by RSS satans as 'bauddhika.'
I have yet to see or hear one single sane youknowwhating Hindu to define what is exactly the meaning of their siren call. RSS was founded on the rock called unity of Hindu religion. I say that is pretty pathetic admission, right there as to the status of this sewer of a religion, 'Hindu.'
Why fix a glory? Isn't the contradiction in the stated policy of RSS and their shenanigans prove that there is no such religion called Hindu or any number of fancy schpansy glories ascribed to it by these merchants of gods? That's what Brahmins are and always were in the entire history of Aryan occupation of Indian sub continent.
These rogues, ruffians and rascals in saffron own gods that they created, thirty-three millions of them, the temples, liturgy, and all that song and dance routine that goes to serve their own selfish interests. The laws of free India have been modified and no single private ownership of temples is allowed yet the groups of Brahmins still manage to exercise unusually major influence on the religious infra structure, one way or other.
The government of people, for the people and by the people, in India translates as RSS rogue reign. What Rajju the devil decides for an average Indian is what happens to them. What kind of fucked up democracy is this? So these saffron simians have won the power with the generous help of minor satraps it is still the government of 'all the people including the hated Muslims, Shudras, Tribal, Women, Christians and a foreign born Roman Catholic widow named Sonia Gandhi.
It is not and shall never be the private pasture of the holy Hindu cows and bunch of cowards like Rajju and his gang at Zandewalan. If the Hindus are in majority and the government machinery is at their disposal why are these Hindu nuts asking for government paid protection devices, laced up to their teeth crack, elite teams of killers toting their automatic weapons?
Why are Muslims and Christians have to cower to these RSS cowards and cowherds who feel threatened in their own lands? Why a non Hindu name means automatically a person whose patriotism is in question and being openly questioned and challenged by ruffians, criminals like Lal Kishen Advani, Bal Thackeray, Varsha Bhosle, Giriraj Kishore, Ashok Singhal?
When would these Brahmin bastards learn that the constitution of India decides as to which act of a person is considered as treachery. Hoodlums like Lal Kishen Advani and Bal Thackeray spend no time in jail for their anti Indian activities that includes starting mass hysteria, riots, mayhem and murders of the innocent citizens of India. Yet they call themselves patriots?
Thanks to the Deccan Chronicle and two of most revealing articles of Sidharth Bhatia and Farzana Versey exposing the Hindu myths.
http://www.deccanchronicleonline.com/lead.html
Sid Harth..."They wrongfully call Australia as former criminal colony, India is a real live Hindu criminal colony."
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Mumbai, Morality and Millions. |
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 6:35 PM
Mumbai, otherwise known as Bombay, the commercial capital of India has largest AIDS cases in India. Maharashtra has 45,864 confirmed sero-positive or infected with Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV), which causes AIDS. Of these 3,251 had full blown AIDS.
Bombay's red light districts are and always were places one could get cheap sex and acquire all sorts of sexually inflicted diseases. It is all legal in moral India out to get those fucking missionaries out of their country under the broad moral and spiritual umbrella, saffron umbrella held by one demon called Rajendra "Rajju Bhaiya" Singh, RSS Mafia don.
AIDS is a complex phenomena and merely pointing at prostitution does not solve any problems. Homosexuality, drug use and wild, uncontrolled sex has something to do with it. One can get AIDS thru blood transfusion, a common medical procedure, hence one's morality or lack of it has nothing to do with getting infected.
For four years Mumbai Marathi Mafia don with his deluded mind and dastardly preoccupation with parading half naked in front of a Muslim actor kind of shenanigans did neither contribute or solve increased danger of AIDS. The idiots may not be able to spell the word 'AIDS.' Bal Thackeray is a fourth grade grammar school dropout, good for vulgarity, starting mass hysteria, creating mayhem, murder on the streets of Mumbai but not good enough to set machinery in motion to stall the rampant AIDS
encroachment in Mumbai.
Luckily, Bal Thackeray's ass has been kicked and may never know what and how AIDS like dangers arise in his sweet, molasses of Mumbai. Whereas Hindu hoodlums such as Arun Shourie go on writing books about historical injustices to Hindu communities with deep, let me add, dangerously deep, that mother fucker ain't no historian of any kind, the real injustices to human beings go on in Mumbai, Maharashtra and India unchecked and unappreciated.
Thanks to the Frontline dated October 23, 1999.
http://www.the-hindu.com/fline/fl1622/16220890.htm
Sid Harth..."Delusionary mind creates mirage of new world totally negating the reality, however close and however intense that reality may be."
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Re: Arctic Home in Vedas? |
Date: Thursday, October 22, 1999 10:20 AM
My dear Abdurrahman,
Bal Gangadhar Tilak, a Konkanastha Brahmin leader of maharashtra indeed penned such book. Tilak was a darling of the Brahmins and his books sold like hot cakes. The theory of Tilak is based upon, not as some deluded dunces roported, retorted, farted, whatever, on western interpretation but on classical Indian astrology, astronomy and mathematical wizardry.
The type of replies you have received are the sole outcome of a very pugilist attitude taken by the same very Brahmins who danced in the isle when Tilak came up with his strong and well researched book.
Tilak was a man for all seasons. Poor Brahmin boy who felt need to educate himself in the western arts and sciences in Poona. Tilak was also a social reformer of some sort. Though he could not get along with his classmate Agarkar as Agarkar was way ahead of his time, Tilak did quite remarkable transformation of the Marathi society by fearlessly opposing British rule and writing tons of material in his Marathi newspaper, "Kesari."
Kesari became the sole voice of Indian dissent, perhaps Maharashtra dissent as it was published in a local language, Marathi. Subsequently Tilak brought out another publication. "Maratha," in slightly varied format. Tilak is credited with social and religious reorganization.
The goddamned replies you received are an indication of a rotten fascist fracas over the issue of the origins of Aryans. These bozos have not a shred of knowledge in this regard. They promptly jump on any topic which has anything to do with Aryan invasion and occupation of land mass, now called Indian sub continent.
The history rewriting of this kind by zealots and history harlots is a shame on Indian culture. The book is out of print and may never be reprinted as the guys who are reversing the history, the distant history of Aryan invasion and Tilak's writing may see that all copies are destroyed. I have read this book but could not buy a copy in the market. The Indian college
and university libraries of distinction certainly have copies of Tilak's book.
It is highly likely that all these copies may be taken out and not returned by these shit worms of Brahmins. The memories and the reports in the newspapers are not easy to wipe out. As a student I found the book very difficult to read as I was not prepared for a scientific book at the time. Later it became very readable and interesting.
The book style is archaic and needs some updating but basically a strong thesis which is what these Brahmin hoodlums are so scared of. Tilak was a holy cow for them. Now Tilak is a dog, such is the moral strength of Brahmins.
Sid Harth..."If Tilak is wrong on Aryans who the fuck is right? Fru-Fru 'Frawd' Frawley?"
linask@hotmail.com wrote in message <7uovnq$b2r$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
Recently, reading one of books of famous French philosopher Rene
Guenon(Sheykh Abdelwahed Yahya), who btw has wrote books "Introduction into >Hindu doctrines" and "Man and his Becoming in Vedanta". I have found very interesting thing - namely he says that Indian author B.G. Tilak has writen a book named "The Artctic Home in the Vedas" where he claims that Hindus
somewhere in very deep past lived somewhere close to Arctical Circle. It strook me as strange since I always was persuaded that Indians lived in India from the times immemorial. As I understand, however, this theory about "Arctical home" has nothing to do with the ill-fated theory of "Arian invasion". Certainly such man as Tilak whom Guenon highly values as
non-Westernized Hindu could not believe in "Arian invasion".
Now I would like to ask you whether somebody of you have read this book of Tilak, and if so whether he indeed wrote so and how to understand this theory. I would be very thankful if you can explain me that. Bahut Dhanyavad in advance.
Abdurrahman Linas Kondratas
Vilnius, Lithuania
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Before you buy.
Sunday, October 24, 1999 11:20 AM
My dear Jai Ravan, II.
I am impressed with the attached reference material but cannot agree with your invalid statement that Devnagari has anything to do with ignorance. If it is true, accordingly all Brahmin brat boys become automatically idiots. I have yet to see the best among them write grammatically and orthographically correct languge using Devnagari on the internet.
Madhav Deshpande, make it Dr. Madhav Murlidhar Deshpande is an expert on Sanskrit. He has lived and taught Sanskrit in the USA for past thirty-five years. Currently, he is in Michigan University at Ann Arbor campus, if I am not mistaken. I hate Poona Brahmins but in this case I change my mind. He is a research oriented writer and has as many as ten books published and perhaps hundreds of scholarly theses on Sanskrit and related Indology topics.
I am referring to his Marathi book, "sa.nskR^ita aaNi praakR^ita bhaashhaa" Shubhada Saraswat Prakashan, Poona. 1995. Paperback pp 319. Rs. 200.00
As usual, I am not translating literally his words in quotes but freely interpreting the themes and basic reasoning.
"The Indus civilization 2500 to 1700 BC, is recognized as the most ancient culture discovered in Indian subcontinent, though its languages and scripts have not been deciphered. Therefore, ancient Vedic literature is determined to be the most ancient literature available. The approximate dates of this bulk of Sanskrit literature can easily fall within 1500 to 500 BC. Rigvedic invocations are basically product of the settlers from Iran occupying the fertile vallies of seven rivers, popularly referred to as "Saptasindhu." In this vedic times the settlers occupied only region from Afghanistan to the orgins of rivers Ganges and Jumna..."
"India as a Linguistic Area," is a book written by M.B.Emeno in which the author maintains that thru hundreds of years' bloody fights between the Aryans and the resident tribes and fair amount of racial interaction, intercoarse, Aryans, Dravidians Munda, Santhal tribes exchaned linguistic sounds, sentence structures, and vocabulary. So much so that each has a common treasure of this interaction and they are all enriched by such open transactions.
Elizarenkova, 9189 maintains that during the Rigvedic periods even the Aryan tribes used the Prakrits in household situations. This in addition to the Aryan tribes scattered over vast land masses had incorporated in their daily lives local and social languages. Due to this influx of local, regional and social languages into the Aryan lives some of them were termed and taken for languages fit for religious "Yagya, Mantra," purposes and accepted as languages of the elite..."
There goes the fond fascists theories that Sanskrit is a native, spoken language, is and always was and all Indian languages derive from this 'mother language.' It is the other way around. The Sanskrit of the Iranian Aryan is dead and what we see today and being pimped by Brahmin boys is a totally artificial language whose real origins are in the native languages.
As Urdu is a mixture of the various local languages, Farsi, Turkic, Arabic, so is Sanskrit a mixture of many known and as yet not known 'desi' languages. The Brahmin argument that Sanskrit language being magical and holy is a bunch of Brahmin garbage. It has no magical powers and has never been a language of anybody's mother. Sanskrit was forbidden to women and most all other castes especially the Shudras and Tribal.
Sid Harth..."These RSS shit shoveling monkeys better pick some books and read, not Sanskrit, local languages and English books before they start to fart and throw fits, yeah, some fists, them too."
Anonymous wrote in message news:199910241405.QAA02147@p3E9EDBBD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de...
The Devanagari script, the `most holy and revered form of writing' which Brahmanism has forced upon the masses, suffers from several severe defects: For more info, see
http://dalitstan.org/journal/brahman/a_sans/a_sans.html
Slow Speed of Writing - Writing in Dev Nagari is much slower compared to other scripts.
Slow Speed of Reading - Reading text in Devanagari
takes much longer compared to other scripts.
Large Number of Alphabets - Devanagari has more than 500 alphabets;
hence printing in Devanagari is highly expensive.
Illiteracy - Wherever the Brahmins enforced the Devanagari script,
the entire population sank into gross ignorance. In fact, Devanagari and
Sanskrit were created by the Brahmins for that purpose only - namely, the
destruction of pre-Brahmanic civilizations.
Dalitstan Journal -
http://dalitstan.org/journal/ Jai Ravan !!
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Of State, Statehood and Hoods. |
Wednesday, November 10, 1999 10:17 AM
Kodagus, a proud tribe of lost Aryans in the mountains and jungles of what is known as Karnataka, former princely state of Mysore expanded, appended, altered and amalgamated to an artificial entity are asking for it. The separate and sovereign Kodagu State of India. God bless those Kodagus, Kodavas, Bastar Bhils, Sikhs of Punjab, Telugus, Tamil separatists, Haryana, Uttar Pradesh mountain folks, Nagas, Gonds, Korkus, Oraons, Kolis, Warlis, Dangs, Konkanastha Chitpavans, Nayaks, Coorgis, Kurmis, Kayasthas, Kasars, Koshtis, Katkaris, Mallahs, Mullahs, Dhangars, Marathas, Marwaris, Karwaris, Walmikis, Bhangis, Mahars, former Maharajas, Patils, Patels, Chetties, Shetties, Shitbuckets, Piss puddles, Puss pockets, preachers, teachers, lepers, and bunch of California computer coolies for such devoted quest to have their dreams come true. Separate and sovereign territory to hold until cows come home.
It is not a bad idea to separate these insufferable simians by land grant political games played in modern India. Give them what they want for a fee and royalty for the franchise rights held by Brahmin lords and masters whose patents and inventions, popularly but mistakenly called India need to be exploited for monetary and political bonanza.
Fucked up feudal system might have vanished from European theater but village idiots truly believe in their own little, insignificant tribal identities and want to reenact the fundamentally flawed but political sturdy medieval feudal system of government.
My good buddies Shushubna Mohanty and Rabindra Mohanty of department of Archaeology, Deccan College, Poona, India write about age of feudalism in a scientific language in an honorable journal. I am sure nobody would care for their discovery. The fact remains that tribal culture of the past is no different than the terribly askew political, social and religious tribal culture of present India. Why not have those good old days where the pie was divided and yet remained whole for the future pseudo historians like Sudheer Birodkar, et al to crow about?
It is a good idea to have "United States of India" where several sovereign states pursue their selfish shell games to a subordinate but independent entities coordinated by a sultan, shah, or badshah, the emperor. We have the right ingredients. Atal the first Hindu Brahmin emperor, avatar of Vishnu, cannot mess around with the likes of Kodagus. It is counter productive to keep fighting with divisive forces. Let them have their cakes and let them eat those cakes too.
Apparently, separatists see no benefit in uniting with the fellow separatists and knock the socks off of the emperors like Atal Behari Vajpayee. That tricky, sticky route is doable. Having day dreams of separate statehood is a mirage. If the Brahmins are chasing the wild goose of supreme political power in their own version of day dreams why not Kodagus of Karnataka? Let all split and shit alike, together but separately. Some kind of marathon 'shitothon,' I believe.
Thanks to the Deccan Herald thru the good boys and girls of CJESA. http://www.egroups.com/group/cjesa/3822.html? http://www.egroups.com/group/cjesa/3824.html? http://www.picatype.com/dig/dn4/dn4aa10.htm http://www.picatype.com/dig/dk1/dk1aa01.htm
Sid Harth...India is a country that is not a country, Hindu religion is not a religion and village idiots of that mythical country and messed up Hindu religion are not humans, period."
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