My dear Inzra,

A decent work but lacks references from notable authors and from Sanskrit works. Not necessarily looking down on your piece but adding to its substantial arguments.

In his magnus opus, "History of Dharmashastra," Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute, Poona, 1929. (vol 5, pp 6000.) Bharataratna, Mahamahopadhyaya, Dr. Pandurang Vaman Kane makes this obvious, naturally talking about Hindu religion.

Suitably paraphrased, not a quote.

"While preparing for my book, "vyavahaaramayukha," an idea struck me to add short introductory passage of history of Dharmashastra for the curious, sort of whet their appetite for the origins and nature of Hindu dharma..."

"I proceeded with this conceptual seed and laid a framework to include chronology, and changes of the original concepts throughout the history. The project musroomed into a major work. The first volume would tackle marriage and other solemn rites, the laws and legal institution, daily rituals, periodic formulated rituals and vows, totemic worship rituals and definitions of personal as well as religious impurities and their warding off rituals..."

"Even though the original sense and practices of 'dharma' have been eroded completely from everyday common practices the rudimentary forms exist in all classes of the practitioners..."

"The term "dharma," in Sanskrit does not easily translate in any other languages. The said term has taken different meanings over passage of time. R^igveda infers to the term "dharma," 56 times. Etymological search reveals the origin in Sanskrit root, "dhR^i," meaning wear, support and nourish or foster..."

"The form of this term, "dharman.h," is used to indicate laws and rites..."

'pituM nu stoshhaM maho dharmaaNaM tavishhim.h' (1.187 shuklayajurveda 34.7) 'imama.njaspaamubhaye akR^iNvata dharmaaNamagni.m vidathasya saadhanam.h' (Rigveda, 10.92 and similar references in 1.22.18; 5.26.6; 8.43.24; 9.64.1) 'aapraa raja.nsi divyaani paarthivaa shlokaM devaH kR^iNute svaaya dharmaNe' (4.53.3) 'dharmaNaa mitraavaruNaa vipashchitaa vrataa rakshethe asurasya maayayaa' (5.63.7)

(via Yashwant Abaji Bhat.)

No word or reference to the term "Hindu," anywhere, The term Dr. Kane used, "dharmashaastra," does not even infer "Hindu." The paraphernalia of rituals were meant to be followed by male Brahmins only, no women allowed in the learning and practice of this Brahminic gobbledygook. By the practice and by the rigorous set of rules the so-called "dharmashastra," as explained by Dr. Kane was meant to be entirely vested in very few individuals, all Brahmins, law givers, law enforcers, law manipulators, law inventors, law protectors and law hoarders.

Sid Harth..."The sooner Brahmin bigots realize that there is no such thing as "Hindu," religion the better are the chances of reconciliation among the diverse religious practices prevailing in the Indian subcontinent."

 To be continued...

Sunday, October 24, 199 1:30 PM

So what is new in the land of milk and honey, Mafia and money? Guess what, more money for manicured, cured as in wild animal skin cured, Mafia monkeys. VHP's one of the bastard babies, "Sanskriti Raksha Manch," Cultural Preservation Platform, headed by one ding bat of a bubba, not Brahmin, a bania, B.P. Singhal, so called advisor to that heinous Hindu organization wants some pork his way from the state treasury.

Since when these banias lack money? Mother fuckers dodge taxes, engage in black market, export and impert human slaves to run their Patel Motelwallahs establishments, collect funds, as much as 1.3 billion dollars to train and equip the RSS rascals for terroriststic acts against minorities, especially of the Muslim, Christian variety?

These bastards, if shaken and hung upside down in an empty warehouse from the ceiling, the jingling and jangling of the loose change they hold against their bodies and body cavities, safe from the tax collectors, falling down like an avalanche of snow in the mountains, the sound of which may wake up 'Kumbhakarna' and give him a permanent nightmare and sudden deafness, I am sure.

I am going to take a contrarian view upon this VHP robbing the 'Reserve Bank of India.' I am not against anyone, including the pugilist VHP vagabonds doing something, anything for the poor disenfranchised Tribals of India. I, therefore, take this highway robbery of the Brahmin bubbas as a boon rather than a bane. If this devil is asking for the advance, a down payment on his unholy deeds, let him have it. As much as he wants.

The condition being a careful account is kept of all the funds disbursed, regularly audited and fair expectation of results checked by an independent body not connected with RSS hoodlum cabal and Christian missionary cabal. No government interference into the workings of this scheme, as basically, large number of the Tribals, Shudras and such perpetually jobless youths may find an interesting and doable task to be performed and get paid too.

If this Singhal simian wants some money from me, he knows where to find me. I am openly declaring that a start in the right direction is as much a guarantee of the success as no start and only fart philosophy of some of the Brahmin rats on the Internet.

Thanks to the Deccan Chronicle dated October 24, 1999.

http://www.deccanchronicleonline.com/coverpro4.html

Sid Harth..."I am saying, for heaven's sake let someone do spmething positive for the forgotten native Indians, be they Christian missionaries buying cheap souls or saffron simians trying to buy them back."

No Conversion, Just Conversation.

Tuesday, October 26, 199 7:15 AM

My good buddy, Pope John Paul, II, no matter how badly I treat him is a lovable dude. Except when he doggedly pursues poor and tribals of the world and screws them all in the name of Jesus the savior. If Jesus were to be alive, most certainly, that poor little orphan Jew would bash the likes of Pope John Paul, II for being insincere if not full of sins of omission and commission.

I laud this Polish Pope for being brave in admitting the complicity of his churh with Jewish genocide. The mountain of guilt Pope John Paul, II carried over his shoulders was getting little too heavy and little too menacing before he spilled his guts. Good for his soul. The world knows that Hitler had accomplices all over the world to further his heinous behavior, not just Pat Buchanan and Joseph Kennedy, father of Jack Kennedy, the first ever Roman Catholic president of the United States of America.

As the world paid no attention to Hitler's storm troopers, his henchmen and dreaded SS brown shirts driving the Jews in cattle wagons to their death traps in Germany and Poland and other parts of Europe, these same very Christians were practicing their mumbo jumbo Latin masses whereas Jewish massacre was in the middle of their lives.

Muddleheaded Indian Bishop, Mar Basellios of Kerala is doing his best to lie that Pope's visit has nothing to do with the Billy Graham style mass conversion campaigns. I chuckle. As a matter of fact I am besides myself with that kind of corny humor. Did I not read a tale of little Red Riding Hood fable? These Christian missionaries run their pious missions in desolated and distressed parts of jungles to have conversation with the jungle boys and girls? No conversion? That statement is a total prevaricated Christian shit.

The Church, not just the of Catholic variety runs on an engine called 'mass conversions,' not necessarily 'forced conversions.' Don't give me that shit as to how closely these Christian missionaries, mostly white and mostly well trained in the art of conversation as well as conversion interact with forgotten people of poor countries have clean heart. Their hearts are neither clean and not even pure.

The objectives are simple. 'Make the world a place where only Christianity would be either preferred or offered religion, no other religions are acknowledged, accepted as equal or in some cases superior to Christianity.' With that kind of medieval mindset, these bubbas romp the world toting their Bible to get more bang for their buck, mostly coming from little old ladies' life savings.

The Christian cabal is mindful of their heinous agenda and are getting little more civil in their mannerism. They have stopped denigrating other faiths and are concentrating on putting their flock in order. Pope's visit to India falls under this category. Saving the soul is on the back burner and saving the soiled image of the rascal rustlers and hustlers in the jungle hideouts is on the front burner.

I have nothing against anyone following their conscience and willingly follow their heart in seeking a god, not the Christian god. After all, India's constitution states clearly that person's choice of a faith is solely his right and no governmemt interference in his choice. If poor Shudra or a Tribal wants to pay homage to Jesus who is to say that he is not entitled to his right? However, the facilitators do a magical trick and make not just one but many more to see the light of Christian heaven, all of a sudden.

I am neither impressed with this magic and strictly speaking consider it as a violation of person's true feelings towards god. If these backward classes truely believe in their tribal traditions, customs and age old precedence and procedures, it is nobody's business to interfere in their choice, or interference, influence peddling from neither Christian goons nor Hindu hoodlums. Leave their religious beliefs alone. Shudra and Tribal gods served them well and no outside help is needed. As far as service oriented projects initiated and established by the Christian missionaries in the Tribal areas such institutions must serve the entire population without regard to their methods of worship and choice of gods.

Thanks to the Rediff dated October 26, 1999.

http://rediff.com/news/1999/oct/25pope.htm

Sid Harth..."The National Rifle Association, NRI claim that 'guns don't kill the people do' is as a fake statement as Christians claiming innocence in their conversion racket."

Re: No Conversion, Just Conversation.

October 26, 1999 9:00 AM

My dear Mo,

I shall tell all my secrets if you tell all of yours, is that a deal? What with this rumor going around that you are a Jewish couch potato of a waman married to a rich Hindu doctor forever watching Hindu Bollywood movies on DVDs? What kind of crazy Hindu would marry a Jewish princess if that romor can be turned into a worldwide hunt for meddlesome Jewish princess?

I think I ought to appeal to vedic Jyotishi to send his Hinduja money paid hound dogs to smell, nay, smoke you out in the open. Fairness in criticism is not my style, sorry, I do advocacy for the underdog not the lap dog like Dr. Jai Maharaj and his ilk.

The Christianity's middle name is "conversion." Their techniques have changed over the time and that monster is mellowing down to some extent. Their tent shows are getting more ritzy and glitzy, no hitches and no glitches. They case the joint like an experienced burglar and prepare to the last details their diabolic plans to rob the poor souls of the dilapidated members of other races and religions. This well established and abundantly chronicled fact just cannot be wiped out of their criminal record by innocent words of their chosen facilitators like this Mar guy of Kerala.

Nobody is fool and least of all I don't buy their scrubbed up ceremonial image. The real evil doers are no more coming from the factories of Rome, they are coming from fringe Christian mega outfits of the good old USA. The protestants are to blame, the Mormons are to be blamed, the southern Baptists of this color and that animalistic scent is to be blamed, and bunch of Christ franchisees are to be blamed more than Roman Catholic grand daddy of them all.

These ruffians are loaded and they take no back seat to the aged and withered Roman Catholic empire for granted. The cannibalization of Christianity did not start at the first dissent of the Martin Luther like reformers. It became more and more vicious at every step of the way till the loose cash in their tills could hold no more and had to be spent in creating false and fake kingdom of Jesus Christ in the world full of poverty.

Christianity is the most aggressive organized setup that has their power tentacles in every politician's testicles. That kind of financial, political and fanatical power is a danger to every poor of the world. They better limit their international racket and stick to the teaching of the Jesus Christ as far as universal brotherhood is concerned. The element of equality among the Christian is non existent, dead and gone like dodo bird long time ago.

These duds are not only asking for some reprisal they want some bloody fights like hundred year religious wars of Palestine. That conquering attitude is what bothers me.

Sid

Mo <100336.3631@compuserve.com> wrote in message news:ZGgR3.782$bp3.25999@nnrp3.clara.net...

> Great article Sid ! Are you becoming a Hindu ?..

Of Christianity and Saffron Insanity.

Monday, November 7, 1999. 2:08 PM

Ask a Hindu about Christianity and they shall vax poetic as to how insane these Christians are. Ask a Muslim the same question, they shall raise the hell. Ask Jews about Christianity and they would refuse to accept the nearly two thousand years of Christian dogma. Ask a feces fascist the same question and the typical answer would be, "get outta here."

The feces fascists consider their religion, culture and anything they make up as they go as pure spiritual, noble and of high fidelity stuff. For such people being bashful about their own position is like Mohamed Ali to stop dancing like a butterfly. Something unthinkable. We take for granted if the deluded Brahmin boy is brainwashed enough he shall repeat the same nonsense syllable till the holy Hindu cows come home.

I keep on bringing the image of a nine hundred pound gorilla and a pesky mosquito. If the gorilla is not in immediate danger of being wiped out of his mighty life why is that this gorilla showing such manic depressive classic psychotic symptoms? The answer is simple. For the benefit of the world.

The constant chafing that these bubbas display of their psyche gives me the feeling that they need, nay, deserve lobotomy, a radical surgical procedure to severe physical connection between their right and left brain functions. The paranoia of a gorilla is what we are witnessing at present. Mere two and one half percent population profess Christianity in India as their preferred religion. Even that is divided into various factions, regional and linguistic which makes this entire community as harmless as a mosquito to the gorilla.

First of all, though the Jesus Christ, the Bible and other common features of all these cults and factions of Christianity, major established churches like Roman Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Greek Orthodox, Mormons, Baptists, Christian Scientists Lutherans, Anglicans and bunch of others are common it does not mean that they are homogenous group. They don't even see eye to eye and are hopelessly muddled about their basic dogmas.

That is to say the Hindu fear of Christianity is unfounded. The enemy is as hopelessly divided as Hindus themselves, what with thirty-three million gods, countless gurus, maharaj, godmen in saffron and all that fun stuff. The only way Golwalkar like Mafia dons could think of uniting these millions of Hindu village idiots was to make an imaginary enemy in the so called Christians.

Such is their pathetic take on Christianity. Can you believe that such imaginary ghost under their bed frightens them so much but the ghost of fractured Hindu reality does not even draw a yawn, much less a spirited means to understand. The spin doctors and shit shoveling boys come out swinging against this imaginary Christian devil with that kind of basic ignorance about the form, function and methods of various factions of Christianity.

What do you expect from this shit shoveling saffron morons except their knee jerk reaction to the call given by their Mafia Muezzin atop Zandewalan tower? Messing around with their own darling Hindu religion is expressly forbidden by their own Pope, the Shankaracharya of Puri. How do you like them Puri Papa paddling the pathetic pugilists' saffron buns?

The papal pronouncements are, at the same time equally ridiculous. Did somebody say 'harvest souls for the Christ? What the fuck these anal retentive Catholics considered Hindu souls as some kind of human organs like kidneys which must be robbed and implanted into the other people's bellies? How does one harvest a soul by bribing him? By enticing him? By telling him that western money, western progress and alleged equality is at the end of Christian conversion tunnel? That is bunch of baloney. Shudras converted for one or other reasons and are still treated by the jaded upper caste Christians as Shudras. The only difference is that the upper caste Christians curse them in foreign languages they don't understand and not in Sanskrit, the scriptural language of Hindu, Brahmins.

The Christian hierarchy is as bad as Brahmin priest domination over the average idiot flock. If Shudra and Tribal souls were rescued by these Christians how come no high caste Christians marry the low caste Christians? Some don't even have social contacts with each other.

If Christians proclaim the love of Christ and all that gobbledygook dogma how come these two thousand years they don't and cannot seem to forgive the Jews? Come to think about it all Christians are reformed Jews, period. Jews don't go around the world and buying the souls with money and other goodies. Jews accept new people but Parsees don't even do that. This conversion dogma must stop. All are welcome to choose their conscience over what form of god they prefer and what form of worship is suitable for them.

Thanks to the Hindustan Times dated November 7, 1999.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/nonfram/071199/detOPI02.htm

Sid Harth..." Instead of making mountain out of a mole hill, the Hindus better learn more about Christianity and beat them in their own conversion game, that would be a fair competition."

"If not now, when? If not me who?"