That is how his name, maybe, his handle should be spelled in Avinash Chopde's ITRANS convention. It means this fella is an economist.

This childish games you are playing is below your dignity. There is nothing Hindu or Muslim about intellectual achievement. If you are talking about the country of India, especially of a state of Bengal and former part of Bengal, now a country in her own right, Bangladesh, you are comparing oranges with apples.

Hindu hoodlums take full credit for the inventions , money, patents, business ventures that succeed of Americans as those of Indians. The immigrants who succeeded in foreign countries are, in the stupid logic of Artho-niti-bid dingbat, belong to Hindu India but a former territory of India, Bangladesh intellectuals doing what they feel is meritorious is not Indian? It is Muslim?

What about the Muslim genius who masterminded the atom bomb research and development on Indian soil? What about the Parsi Bhaba who laid the foundations of atomic energy commission and headed the first research facilities at Trombay, Bombay? He is not a Hindu. What about the most successful computer software genius of Bangalore, he is a Muslim?

The putrid, pathetic attempts to put intelligence into religious and regional pigeonholes is not only stupid but downright anti intellectual if not Demonic. Bangladesh has resources to push the academic excellence but not equal to Hindu India. Can't you see this enormous gap in country's resources?

If Bangladesh shows as much as the writer has attempted to show it is a comparison between eight hundred pound gorilla and a monkey baby, make it a new born baby monkey. No comparison or if one assigns some weight, lays down some handicap for size and age, I think Bangladesh baby monkey is equal if not superior to Indian, Hindu gorilla.

As far as this man, Artho-niti-bid's politeness is concerned I give him a D minus, sort of flunk him on that score. He, as a true Bengali would quotes a Sanskrit tidbit. I corrected his spelling errors and put it in ITRANS as well as Devanagari, thanks to the Itranslator software freely available from the good guys of Omkaranand Ashram at Rishikesh, India:

Bidda Dadati Binayam, Binayat Jaati Patratam, Paatrataat Dhaanat-apnoti, Dhaanat, Dharma, Taatha Shukhom.

vidyaa dadaati vinayaM vinayaat.h jaatii paatrataam.h|

paatrataaddhanamaapnotii dhanaaddharma tathaa sukham.h||

http://www.comebackkid.com/vidya.html

Sid

Norman 45@globalnet.co.uk wrote in message news:85po05$lb6$1@gxsn.com...

Why don`t you include Chandrashekhar avenkat Raman who got his Nobel for Physics while working and researching in Calcutta Uni.

Artho-niti-bid wrote in message 85p9dr$acn$1@nnrp1.deja.com...

Here is a comparison of intellectual achivements of Bangladeshis and West Bengalis in academia. The readers can judge for themselves to see the clear leadership of the Bengali Hindus of West Bengal over those of their Bengali Muslim counterparts from Bangladesh and can draw their independent conclusions whether it is ideological or historical or contributed by some other factor.

In general, Bangladeshis like to have lots of onions and beef to get themselves warmed up with the red meat and then go on to work for World Bank or some other highly paid International Agency, after completing their PHD.

In case of the Bengali Hindus (both Secular and Conservative) who tend to worship Goddess Saraswati, drinks lot of milk, listens to Sitar and burns the midnight oil along with some cheap wine to finish their PHD and then do "MASTERY" OR teaching at some well known school. Hindus tend to be better off (by their achivements) than muslims in the academia, given the fact that they have very different preferences than the Bangladeshi Muslims.

Social Sciences and Humanities :

West Bengal :

1) Amartya Sen Education : Santiniketan and Cambridge. Placement : Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard..... Nobel Laureate, Economics, 1998.

Nearest Bangladeshi :

1) M.N. Huda Education : Cornell University. Placement : Dhaka University, Advisor to President.

West Bengal :

2) Abhijeet Banerjee Education : Harvard Placement : MIT.

Nearest Bangladeshi :

2) Nurul Islam Education : Harvard Placement : FAO and World Bank.

West Bengal :

3) Kaushik Basu Education : London School of Economics. Placement : Cornell.

Nearest Bangladeshi :

3) Rehman Sobahan Education : Oxford Placement : Dhaka University and the Center for Public Dialogue.

West Bengal :

4) Debraj Ray Education : Cornell. Placement : Stanford, BU, NYU.

Nearest Bangladeshi :

4) Zillur Rahman Khan Education : Claremont College. Placement : UW Oshkosh.

West Bengal :

5) Gayatri Chakrabarty Spivak Education : Cornell Placement : Columbia.

Nearest Bangladeshi :

6) Rashiduzzaman Education : Dhaka University Placement : Rowan College, NJ.

West Bengal :

7) Maitreesh Ghatak Education : Harvard Placement : Chicago.

Nearest Bangladeshi :

8) Wahiduzzaman Manik Education : University of Dhaka Placement : Some Pee University in Tennessee. He likes to have Pea Soup at Pee University and then pee in SCB.

-- Arthonitibid.

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One OH Rama wrote, as usual a provocative article with many exclamation marks for some emphasis. He does that all the time. Hindu hoodlums, as usual react in kind. This is how it goes on the soc.culture.indian newsgroup.

My dear RAVI, a.k.a. Norman Nailer of Great Britain,

Grow up you asshole. Hindus and Jains have the highest respect paid to their "NAKED" gurus, spiritual gurus and in the case of Mahavir, the founder of Jain religion worshipped as a naked deity.

Several dozen Hindu gurus have lived, some point in their lives completely naked. Swami Nityananda is one of them. Perhaps guru of Akkalkot did the same. Their naked site has been witnessed by thousands if not millions of their devotees.

Sinhastha mela which comes every sixty years at Kashi, naked sect of Hindus have the first right to parade down the streets in front of men, women and children and take a ritual bath. Every twelve years this pagan ritual is repeated.

What the fuck you are talking about hoodlum? Go fluck your mama, bozo. http://www.cs.colostate.edu/~malaiya/jainh.html

Sid

Norman 45@globalnet.co.uk wrote in message news:85ql3a$rr6$1@gxsn.com...

NangaPir wrote in message 20000114221431.05520.00000235@ng-bd1.aol.com...

I donot support the idea of destroying India. It should be changed into entertainment country with this much exotic stuff.

Nanga Pir

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Yes certainly. When all the muslims start dancing and running Nanga it will be a great entertainment for all the Hindus who will be attired in exotic clothes and eating exotic food. What a great sight it will be when all those Nanga mullahs and begums will be fighting for few bones thrown for an added entertainment by exotic Hindus

Norman.

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OH RAMA wrote:

Pakistan is really tired of India's bad attitude.

In next war Pakistan should totally destroy he pagaland and rid humanity of perversion and misery.

No doubt Pakistan will suffer too but so what ? we are all going to die one day.

THERE WILL BE BILLIONS OF MUSLIMS, still all over the world, but thank GOD the earth will be pagan free.

Here is his stock article, posted several times before.

Pornography in Ramayana

Dr. Charles claims that ramayana contains much pornographic material and cannot be read in public. He gives the following examples.

Rama's description of Sita's beauty which is lewdly detailed (refer to C.R. Srinivasalyengar's translation of Aryana Kandam, Chapter 46).

In Kiskind Kandam, Rama explains to Lakshmana of his sexual experience with Sita. According to Ramayana, the Aryans (Brahmins) used to drink liquor (nine different kinds), eat meat, marry many wives and prostitution was an accepted way of life amongst the priests and gods.

Ramayana also recounts the "story of King Dasharatha", who in order to have a baby son, made a big sacrrifice (yaham) of sheep, cattles, horses, birds and snakes. He then delivered his three wives Kaushaliya, Sumatirai and Kaikeyi to three priests. These holy men, having fully satisfied their carnal desire, returned the ladies to the King. By this means, the king was able to have three sons - Ram, Lakshman and Bharat (Bala kandam, Chapter 14. For more details on yaham, refer to the book "Gnana Surian", published by Kudi Arasu Press).

The Ramayan tells us much about the unlawful relationship of incest but we do not feel it appropriate or decent for us to go into details. (Please refer to Aranya Kandam, Chapter 45, Verses 122, 123, 124 and 125).

The following Hindu practices will reveal how immorality and indecency are sanctified in the name of Hinduism.

Lingam & Yoni

Lingam and Yoni are the male and female sexual organs respectively. Hindus are allowed to worship anything - including sexual organs. It is not unknown for them to name their children Shiva Lingam (God Shiva's sexual organ) or Rama Lingam (God Rama's sexual organ). In some place in Karnataka, the gods demand both males and demales ro pray naked together.

Devadasi (Religious Prostitution)

The Devadasi system was set up, according to a Times of India report (10-11-1987) as a result of a conspiracy between the feudal class and the priests (Brahmins). The latter, with their ideological and religious hold over the peasants and craftsmen, devised a means that gave prostitution their religious sanction. Poor, low-caste girls, initially sold at private auctions, were later dedicated to the temples. They were then initiated into prostitution.

Bharat Natyam & The Brahmins

The Bharat Natyam is a dance performance which, because of the Brahmin media, has gained much recognition as a form of art. The celebrated Bharat Natya expert, Rukminii Devi, admits in a National Geographic video programme, that the Bharat Natya was really the art of Devadasi (temple prostitutes) to please their audience and admirers. This is the reason why you might have seen various Bharatha Natya's postures in Hindu temples.

Maybe like the art of KARATE to the japanese, the BHARAT NATYAM is a national art of the Brahmins and very much part of their culture.

The Kamasutra

Brahminism has also created Kamasutra - a set of instructions on how to have sexual intercourse. Some of the postures detailed in Kamasutra are so complex that they only be performed with the help of one or more ASSISTANTS!

The Devadasii System Thrives

UNI. - TIMES OF INDIA - 10th Nov. 1987: confirms that the practice of dedicating young Harijan girls (mahars, Mangs, Dowris and Chambhar) at childhood to a goddess, and their initiation into prostitution when they attain puberty continues to thrives in Karnataka, Andhra Pradesh and other parts of South India. This is largely due to social backwardness, poverty and illiteracy, according to a study by two doctors of the India health Organisation. The report clearly indicates that the Devadasi system was the result of a conspiracy between the feudal class and the priests (Brahmins), who with their ideological and religious hold over the peasants and craftsmen, devised a practice which acquired religious sanction. They noted in their study on - "Devadasis - the link between religious culture and child prostitution".

The study revealed that girls from poor families are married tio God Krishna and are sold after puberty at private auctions to a high caste master who initially pays a sum of money to the families ranging from Rs 500/- to Rs 5,000/-.

The study, made during health camps organised by the World Health Organisation (WHO) in the devadasi populated areas, revealed that the dedicated girls formed 15 percent of the total women involved in prostitution in the country, and as much as 70 percent to 80 percent of the prostitutes in the border districts of karnataka and Maharashtra.

The Naked Hindu Yogis of Kashi

Many of the Yogis of Kashi (Banaras) live naked and beg for their living. They live in dirty, unhydienic conditions and drug addiction is rife among them.

Urvashi Bhagat, is a female zombie, a bitch with exceptional bite. She romps the newsgroups, like that idiot K S Manu, mostly farts. Sometimes throws darts, pukes, pisses ad shits. What is Urvashi Bhagat's problem? Don't ask me, ask her.

My dear Urvashi,

How is your lesbian life? Having good time in your spaciaous, sumptuous beach house?

Let us take it from top. Tha's right. Top. Atal Behari Vajpayee, a Hindu's Hindu has some problem with his two timing, shit shoveling, make it Zandewalan Devil, Raju's kind of RSS shit shoveling, a true red neck Hindu who is calling names to his friend and a boss, Atal that is.

What the fuck you are talking about? Muslims are bad and we all know that, thanks to Ahmed Diwan like circus, make it feces fascist fleabag circus barkers. How does that make Lallu the killer kallu a saint?

You BJP bimbo in a Mafia limbo, Urvashi, you are consuming RSS shit too much.

Thanks to the Indian Express dated January 15, 2000.

http://www.expressindia.com/ie/daily/20000115/ina15005.html

Sid Harth..."These RSS rascals see nothing, hear nothing and speak a lot, more like shit a lot, are people as dumb as they think?"

Mirza Ghalib urvashi@ix.netcom.com wrote in message news:3880FD0C.C3435831@ix.netcom.com...

Then how come the Nobels for literature and economics went to the Hindu Bengalis? And another, Hindu, Bose, is hyphenated with Einstein: see any book on Advanced Physics.

Islam is a dope for human intellect.

Artho-niti-bid wrote:

Robert D Kaplan and Computer Coolies
By Sid Harth
elcid
Sunday, January 16, 2000 3:00 AM

Computer coolies from India are taking California, for now. How long do you think they would wait before they take Texas, Massachussetts, Illinois, New jersey, New York and Washington? Think again, not too long. Sid Whereas California computer coolies of Brahmin kind are busy shoveling, scraping some shit for their lords and masters, Robert D Kaplan takes a serious look at this new phenomena of the Silicon Valley being gobbled by the coolie brigade for other parts of the world. Kaplan's book, 'An Empire Wilderness' is making some local Indian journalists wax eloquent on Indian genius. Three people are mentioned with a pride, suitable for framing in silver frames. We all know that the California is generating more heat than any other part of the world and a fierce competition is making everyone bit nervous around all those ugly brown Brahmin faces. Kaplan may say anything he wants to, this is a free country. The editors of Indian Express may express their joy and pride over the success of Indian computer coolies, who is denying them that small privilege? All is well in California, Boston, inside Washington, DC beltway, Seattle, Washington. The white American imperialists that deluded dunce Ahmed Diwan do not like or respect are pushing in the right direction with additional, some 15000 computer coolies from the Indian universities, helping in the American dream to be superb in the cities and the suburbs where these computer shops are located. Talk about the scare the Express editorial creates. Brown faces are not respected by the white American imperialist? That is the new one. If so how come Bill Gates puts his foot down and demands that the quota for the computer professionals be increased, or else and Bill Clinton, not a buddy of Bill gates, succumbs to that kind of pressure? The question is whether these low level shit scrapers respect their new lords and masters? Ask me, they don't. These coolies think that California belongs to and is physically attached to India. Now that kind of coolie thinking does not pay dividends. Those who play the game, fair and square, accept the American system and succeed are Americans of Indian origins, so are all other ethnic entrepreneurs, the so called Asians, your Chinese, Koreans, Irish and Pakistani in this new gold rush. Hindu hoodlums want to take credit for their American success. That is a new one. The guys drop pants and/or throw their mamas from the trains to come to America because they cannot find suitable jobs or well paying jobs in India. If the proud Indians stayed behind in their holy Hindu India and Indian capital supported their ventures or paid them salaries equivalent to the California computer coal mines, would that not be more patriotic? Thanks to the Indian Express dated January 15, 2000. http://www.expressindia.com/ie/daily/20000115/ied15080.html http://www.a-ten.com/z/kaplan.html Sid Harth..." Shit shoveling does not make anyone entrepreneur, perhaps a patriot, hard work and respect for the system that does it." Yesterday's editorial and other past articles are moved here. Hindu, Brahmin Mafia, RSS Terrorism © 2000 Sid Harth Back to the top

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