slogans of the 90's
* 1. save the world kill a dragon
angrywhitemale --
* 2. save the world kill a liberal
angrywhitemale --
* 3. jerry is dead, phish sucks, get a job
angrywhitemale --
* 4. impeach clinton
angrywhitemale --
* 5. meat is murder, murder tastes good medium rare,
smothered with mushrooms and onions
angrywhitemale --
* 6. kill gay whales for jesus
angrywhitemale -- thewhitehouse.com
* 7. aids is the cure for fags
angrywhitemale -- thewhitehouse.com
* 8. Promote the foodchain, eat a vegetarian today.
ChAoS -- Hate Kathylee? Sure we all do. Go to the link
trader, go to ground zero and vote for Martha Stuart to
beat Kathylee, keven Kelley will thank you.
* 9. #6 As much as I hate you right now, that's funny as
hell. I want a bumper sticker that says that.
Heather Angel -- A1000Leavs@aol.com
* 10. #7 That, on the other hand, is disgusting.
Heather Ang -- rabbit where'd you put the keys girl?
* 11. #9, Heather, don't take angrywhitemale seriously...its
all just an act. No matter how much he denies it...he's
not REALLY that much of a bigoted asshole.
DragonLady -- www.dragonladysdesign.com
* 12. Women rule and men drool!
DragonLady -- Drool a little lower darling...
* 13. A picture is worth a thousand words. Take one and shut
up.
Just Me --
* 14. It's not how you play the game--- it's whether you win
or lose.
Janet Nero --
* 15. Proud Sponsor of Murray the Rabbit Boy
Heather Angel -- murray@halfhuman.com
* 16. Kill Celebrities
Heather Angel -- murray@halfhuman.com
* 17. #1 Now, now dear. Proper punctuation is a must! That
statement should be "Save the world, kill a dragon" See? A
little comma isn't that hard to put in!
Aunt Spelling Bea -- look@your.dictionary
* 18. You know, Mr. Angrywhitemale, capitalization do so
much for any bit of writing! You should try it sometime!
Aunt Spelling Bea -- look@your.dictionary
* 19. #9 Goodness dear, and just how funny is hell?
Aunt Spelling Bea -- look@your.dictionary
* 20. #19 Maybe it's just me, but the thought of almost
every single politician, celebrity, public servant, and
mormon I've ever met burning in an eternal pit of fiery
magma as goat-legged monstrosities whip and torment them
seems funnier than anything I've ever thought of
before....
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 21. Thank God For Abortion.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 22. "Fuck the Boomers!" George Carlin.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 23. "Who needs a soul or ethics when you too can attain
the highest executive office in the country, solicit
millions in illegal campaign contributions, smoke hemp,
have sexual relations with dozens of women, and still have
time left over to voice your support for public school
uniforms? God Bless America"
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 24. "31337 d00d! VV}{0 N33DZ 84NDVV|DH VV}{3N 4 20$ A
M0N7H |7 73115 Y0U VV}{3N U 607 M4|L??????!?!!!!!!!!" Hark
the clarion of AOL.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 25. #7: You sure about that? I thought you got cancer from
fags. And they make your clothes smell and your breath
stink.
Dangerman --
* 26. #4: Yes, what the hell is it with Clinton and this
peach? I thought it was just cigars he had a thing for.
Dangerman --
* 27. #17 "Capitalization DOES so much"
Betterthanyou.com --
* 28. Da gloves don't fit, you MUST acquit!
OyJe! --
* 29. "Scully don't count." Oral sex is not having an
affair.
Shazam! --
* 30. #29 Um......maybe oral sex doesn't count, but didn't
you read the rest of the Starr report?
Heather Angel --
* 31. Be free, Be wild, Be blessed, Be beguiled.
Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal
* 32. Solve the population problem: castrate a man today.
Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal
* 33. OK, hands up if that one made you wince and\or cover
your genitalia nervously.
Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal
* 34. Have you forgotten about Jesus? Isn't it about time
you did?
Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal
* 35. #19: Very entertaining, if you ask me. The whole thing
reminds me of a supernatural S&M bar.
Jinxster -- witch, pagan and liberal
* 36. #5: You're sick! I mean, ONIONS??? How could anyone
like them?
Jinxster -- Open up in the name of Freya
* 37. Tastebuds, dear. Tastebuds.
Aunt Spelling Bea -- look@your.dictionary
* 38. #31 Um...I'm guessing you're pagan. Not to incite a
riot here, but isn't paganism just as hypocritical as
Christianity, as they are BOTH organized religions? Yes,
yes, I hate Jesus as much as you do, but I also have
absolutely no respect for the nature gods, such as Pan and
Freya, who are now being embraced by my generation and all
those who have been raised by the Moral Majority...
Heather Angel -- God is dead.
* 39. Anyway, it's not like I never went through my own
Faerie Wicca phase. Maybe it's just another female rite of
passage. I'm glad, though, that I dropped my studies of
magick after I finished my junior year of high school.
Heather Angel -- Attn: Jinxster. God is dead.
* 40. Feminazis of the whirrled--- scramble your eggs!
It's my therapist's fault. ;-D --
* 41. Do it the right way, dont go to any religion.
ReedMan -- Attn. Heather: God never existed
* 42. #38: Paganism's not that organised. No authoritative
text to adhere to slavishly. No central authority (there's
a few organising bodies, but they don't issue doctrines).
There's as many different belief systems under the pagan
label as there are pagans. Do what you will shall be the
whole of the law. That's the nearest thing it's got to
dogma. I don't think you could really say it's
"organised"...
Jinxster -- Attn: Heather and ReedMan - the religion may
be true or not, the magic works most of the time.
* 43. #37: It's not the taste, it's the texture. Hate 'em.
Jinxster -- Attn: Heather and ReedMan - the religion may
be true or not, the magic works most of the time.
* 44. #42 Still, it's entrenched in the kind of ritualism
that makes christianity so loathsome. Also, pagans, like
christians, live under the notion that SOMEONE UP THERE
(be it God or Freya) has got to be appeased. (Threefolds
Law? Very similar to priests telling their flock to be
good or they'll go to hell.) As far as religious doctrine
goes, a pagan bible has yet to be created, but I don't
know one neo-Gaelic girl who'll part with her precious
Book of Shadows.
Heather Angel -- Attn: everyone- God sucks.
* 45. #44 Very well said.
ReedMan -- Jinx: Magic Shmagic.
* 46. #44: Ritualism - Some may go in for that, I don't. If
it requires much more than candles, joss sticks and a bit
of concentration, forget it.
Jinxster --
* 47. Threefold Law gubbins: It's not about appeasing the
gods; there's no pagan hell. It's about not hurting your
fellow humans unnecessarily and about being a better human
yourself. Basic psychology: if you're the sort of person
who wants only to hurt others, you'll end up a very
maladjusted individual. If you act responsibly to others,
chances are they'll reciprocate and your life will be the
better for it. I've never worshipped a pagan god or done
magick to save myself from eternal damnation, I've done it
to improve myself and my life. By and large, it's working.
Jinxster --
* 48. Book of Shadows: Ever read one? They're not doctrinal
works, they're spellbooks. Just as you don't set out to
program a computer or study a degree without textbooks and
maunals, so you need your main spells written down,
especially if they're long complicated ones. However, I
have to say, the ones I do rarely fall into that category.
Jinxster --
* 49. Those are my views on paganism. Others may differ. But
don't go thinking I'll fit your preconceived notions of
paganism, because I probably don't. I'm way too
individualistic.
Jinxster --
* 50. #46 You're still resorting to symbols and worthless
inanimate objects to do your bidding. I fail to see the
difference between lighting christian church candles and
lighting pagan altar candles. It's the same thing,
sweetie.
Heather Angel -- do you know where i am? i really want you
to i'm here in outer space
* 51. #47 The basic tenets of the religion have nothing to
do with the point I'm trying to make here. It is my
personal belief that, in essence, all religions are the
same. You have no right to criticize another person's
faith when you yourself subscribe to a faith that is not
without its own flaws and hypocrisies.
Heather Angel -- do you know where i am? i really want you
to i'm here in outer space
* 52. #49 [laughing out loud] That's what every pagan has
ever said to me.
Heather Angel -- do you know where i am? i really want you
to i'm here in outer space
* 53. #45 Thank you. :)
Heather Angel -- do you know where i am? i really want you
to i'm here in outer space
* 54. Recover your "memories" and make a fat therapist
fatter.
Sigmund Fraud -- nuthouse@vienna.at
* 55. Once you pop, the fun don't stop.
ēģ° --
* 56. Farkels of the world, Unite!
SmElymouse --
* 57. #50: But I don't actually *need* the candles. I could
do any of it in a bare room if I had to. And I have done
before now. That's partly the point, to get so good you
don't need the props. The best witches don't need to do
magic anymore, they just need to articulate their desire,
think about it and it'll happen. But I've only been doing
this for two years. And most pagans you'll meet are
probably not much more experienced. You don't see novice
ice skaters doing pirouettes, leaps, etc, do you? If you
can prise them off the edge, you're lucky. Same with the
craft.
Jinxster -- not antichrist, just antichristian
* 58. #52: I see. And were they dressed in goth gear with a
Book of Shadows under one arm and an Inkubus Sukkubus CD
under the other? I own one pentagram. Just one. That's
all. I don't even wear it all the time. My hair is it's
natural colour. I have considered dying it black but
didn't bother. I don't wear black continuously. I've even
been known to wear pink. No piercings or tattoos either.
No black make up other than nail varnish. But I also have
the cherry red stuff. I don't have a Book of Shadows. I do
have an occult library, but most is practical not theory.
I do like Inkubus Sukkubus, but then I also like Fleetwood
Mac and Madonna. I can read pagan literature and disagree,
no matter how respected the author. Ever thought the
reason why pagans claim to be different is because it's
true?
Jinxster -- not antichrist, just antichristian
* 59. #51: All religions are true, deep down. The mystical,
esoteric strands of any religion agree with each other.
But the exoteric fronts are as different as can be. I have
no problem with Christ, despite all appearances to the
contrary. ;) Just a lot of his "followers". The ones that
claim to be doing the Lord's work, but who are in fact the
ones who Jesus will say to at the end "I never knew you".
These are my targets, and they are the reason I diss
Christinsanity (my pet name for the fundamentalist
version). It pisses them off something chronic!
Jinxster -- not antichrist, just antichristian
* 60. #58 I just find it immensely grating that most (not
all, of course, but most) Wiccans think that somehow they
are "different" and "special" for being part of such a
religion. The adolescent "nobody understands me" mentality
seems to go along with being pagan.
Heather Angel --
* 61. #51 Well, even if I don't entirely agree with it, I
can see your point. I still don't quite comprehend how
anyone would want to belong to any religion or craft
whatsoever, but I can't tell you what to worship and what
not to worship. (Christinsanity...that's hysterical. I
love it.)
Heather Angel --
* 62. I'll weigh in here. #48 No offence Jinx, but the idea
that you can use spells to improve your life, or do
anything for that matter, is quite rediculous. Check that,
they can do at least one thing. They can change your own
mindset, how you think and dea
ReedMan -- rpearce@reed.edu
* 63. If you believe that a particular spell will help you
in a particular situation, then you will be more likely to
act as if what you want to happen will happen. With such a
positive attitude and a belief that something will happen,
it usually will.
ReedMan -- rpearce@reed.edu
* 64. Once you realize that all the good stuff that happens
is entirely up to you, you should realize that the spells
and incantations are merely a catalyst to your own
actions.
ReedMan -- rpearce@reed.edu
* 65. #31. Ahem. Possesing a set of said genetalia, I must
make a serious reprimand to you for such a comment.
Eventually you see, I hope that the world will realize
that it's problems of overpopulation and the consequential
starvation of that surplus can solve each other. My
solution? Canabalism. For those of you who've not tried
it, human flesh is by far the tastiest of meats,
surpassing even the choicest beefs and porks. I say, if we
are going to go about killing animals for food, why not
extend that to all animals? It seems foolish and wasteful
to me that we should be so pretentious as to have disgust
at the thought of consuming another of our species.
Hmmmm.... Don't all dial up the nursing home at once now.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 66. Before I start in on this one, I'd just like to
commend everyone here who has participated in this
psuedo-debate. So far as I can see, pepole have put logic
and reasoning, however contrived, before childish name
calling and flames and all that rubbish. Kudos to you all.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 67. Looking over the entries on this list, it somewhat
saddens me that so few people believe in God anymore. I
was of course aware of this, but was doping myself away
from the truth, God has little appeal to the youth of the
world. I'm not talking christianity of course, as I happen
to be an old school god man, I was never quite sold on the
aspect of that fisherman. But regardless of what I
believe, it is a shame that so many years of tradition
must eventually die. Ahh well, let the moslems have it for
a while, then we'll see what develops. Where was I....?
Ah. You see, God happens to exist. It defies all logic, I
realize this, but He's there, and very much alive. I was
as shocked as you when I found out, and am still adjusting
to the fact, but it seems that He's there no matter what I
want to believe. Yes, this is firsthand knowledge. He's
there, but I don't think anyone's quite figured out
exactly what He is, or what He wants. See, this is the
problem with religion. It is designed, one way or
another(Disregarding Daoism, ect) to please a supernatural
entity. Now, even if this supernatural entity exists, and
did in fact create the universe as we know it, how are we
to understand him? Ours is the position of the ant placing
a grain of sugar at the foot of a man, we make ourselves
large by pretending that the man could care at all for the
actions of the ant. So I imagine.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 68. Yeah, I'm gonna take some flak on that "Firsthand
knowledge" Thing, but what care I for what others think of
me? (Great, try to convince them of your sanity after
proposing canabalism as an alternative to world hunger.
Good thinking Old one.) When the book comes out, maybe you
will see. Maybe not. I want your ideas, not your trust.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 69. Barreling right along this "Dope-addled geriatric"
path to ruination, I must say that I am quite disappointed
in you, man of Reed. Ajh. To think that you would be so
quick to jump on the back of anything outside of logic is
rather booring, but logic is convienience, and people are
lazy. Of course I'm not going to tell you that magic is
real, and that "Witches Fyre" or some other such bullshit
is in any way part of reality. I do not believe that these
so called "pagans" can perform miracles any more than I
believe in papal infalibility, but the smugness of logic
in defying all that it cannot define is it's undoing.
There is more on this orb of rock then the labcoats of the
world can explain today or ever will. This is only this
planet, I shudder to think of the vast reaches of space
and their possibilities. Science is a tool. It has many
applications, and strengths, but to assume for even a
moment that it has domain over all is laughable. Mayhap
some "Witch" cannot bestride the world with a fistful of
guano and some gibberish, but there is power in the mind
beyond the most preposterous claims of Magicians. Power
that science has nothing to do with, power that springs
from something other than a collection of synapses and
cells. Live long enough, and do it with open eyes, and
anyone will see this.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 70. And since I did not offer any specific example for the
above statement, as I am told is an often bad habit of
mine, I will offer the little tidbit that evolution (NOT
natural selection) simply does not work. Feel free to
debate this with me, I am quite well read on the topic. It
does not, and cannot be proven to work. Simple as that. So
where then, does such biodiversity as cannot be explained
by natural selection spring from? The answer is beyond
science, and what man currently knows.
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 71. Feel free to e-mail me to express any vulgar opinions
you may have as to what I've said. Heh, here dns dns
dns.....
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 72. And as far as those of you who have chosen not to
believe in a religion go, enjoy it while it lasts. But
remember, as the phrase goes, "You gotta believe in
something"
l0de -- l0de@hotmail.com
* 73. #69 Ah, thank you for adding your insightful, if
somewhat longwinded remarks. I feel I should probably
rephrase myself.
ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon
* 74. My denial of magic was pointed for the most part at
the sorts of magic such as the good Jinx was espousing.
However, I fully agree with you. There are things in this
world that science has not and probably will not explain.
I tend to err on the side of
ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon
* 75. Now, I firmly believe that the personified deity
espoused by most religions does not exist. However, I
think there may be some...thing behind it all. Not
necessarily an entity that created everything...but rather
some life force.
ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon
* 76. I dont know quite how to explain it, but I feel that
there is some force (Shut up Hillsdalers, I'm not talking
about The Force). Something primordial that we can get in
touch with.
ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon
* 77. This force has been felt throughout mankind and man,
with his mind has sought to understand this. He has given
it the name of God and given it supreme awareness.
ReedMan -- Somewhere in portlan,d ORegon
* 78. Now, I admit I'm schizophrenic on this point. I sense
the lifeforce in some way, and yet I deny the spiritual.
Why? I dont know, perhaps because facing this primordial
force, raw life power is frightening. We deal with this in
different ways. Some giv
ReedMan -- Somewhere in the Universe
* 79. Now, I am naturally skeptical of your "first hand
experience" of God. If what you say is true, then you may
have found some method of coming in closer contact with
the raw life force than usual. If this force is god, I
dont think it created the universe
ReedMan -- Somewhere in the Universe
* 80. Arrrgh! Words are a prophylactic in the transmission
of ideas.
ReedMan -- Somewhere in the Universe
* 81. GENERIC SPIRITUAL COMMENT
GENERIC TOP-X USER --
* 82. #62- #64: You think you're telling me anything new
here? OF COURSE I KNOW THAT, THAT'S HOW THEY WORK !!!! As
one progresses further with it, you stop needing the
paraphernalia and the rituals. Because your subconscious
mind has adjusted to the point where your mindset is
completely geared towards providing your every need. That
is the general idea behind it all. Novices may be
impressed by the idea of magickal forces and entities, but
those of us who enjoy thinking know rather better.
--
* 83. #61: Probably the sense of specialness you mentioned
in #60. Plus if your independently arrived at conclusions
about life happen to harmonise with it, why not sign up?
--
* 84. #60: It is slightly annoying, but common to all
religions. Most Christians display it to a marked degree.
As do many Jews. Not so common with others.
--
* 85. I'm sorry that I've missed out on this list for so
long, and I'm sure that Jinxster is sorry now that I've
found it. But please allow me to add my comments. No harm
in a little discussion, eh?
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 86. #67: Carpenter, actually. And "Taoism" is the correct
transliteration, although it does sound like a D.
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 87. Now, perhaps I am an unusual Christian, but rituals
have never been a part of my experience beyond childhood
bedtime prayers -- no candles, no crossing myself, etc.
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 88. It astonishes me how much most people, and indeed
(sadly) most Christians themselves, misunderstand Christ
and His religion. He came not to bind and accuse, but to
heal and love.
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 89. But above all, He came to set us free. "The truth
shall set you free," He said, and till my last breath I
will seek truth.
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 90. I'm glad to see, however, the discussion (however
heated it may become at times) on this list, because that
means that all of you are also seeking for the truth --
and I love you for it.
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 91. Now, from what I've seen on this list, l0de, Heather
Angel, ReedMan, and Jinxster are all from differing
viewpoints, but none professes Christian beliefs. I am
here, therefore, as His representative.
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 92. #70: Not only will evolution not work without God's
influence, neither can the creation of the universe be
explained without Him. How, to ask a simple question, can
something come from nothing?
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 93. Entropy, in time, will claim all organized energy from
the universe; it will become a cold, desolate, uniform
sludge. No matter that it may take quadrillions of years,
it will happen.
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 94. That being a rational truism, then (matter is not
eternal), the universe must be of finite age -- if it were
infinitely old, this would have happened long ago. An
infinity ago, to be precise.
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 95. If the universe is of finite age, therefore, there
must have been a time when the universe did not exist --
when nothing existed. Something cannot come from nothing,
therefore, something must have existed "before".
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 96. This something must be eternal, or else created in
turn by something eternal. There must be a beginning in
eternity, for a thing is either eternal or not eternal,
and if something is not eternal then it must have been
created.
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 97. So the origin of all things is eternal; timeless, if
you will. Forgive me if I'm being a little wordy.
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 98. Perhaps you are thinking that my argument is eternal?
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 99. Anyway, what is this eternal "thing", which must, by
definition, exist, and which has created the universe? I
put it to you.
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 100. Obviously this "thing" need not be God by any
definition, but I would like to hear your responses.
Lord Kalhoun I -- lordkalhoun@usa.net
* 101. Zzzzzzz...Oh, you're done? Well
I...um...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
--
* 102. #87: I think that aspect of it is restricted to
Catholics. I have no idea of your specific denomination
but I think you're Protestant, yes?
Jinxster --
* 103. #93: From death comes rebirth. How do you know the
entire process of creation/life will not restart after? I
think the possibility should be kept in mind.
Jinxster --
* 104. #100 (or whatever Kalhoun's last entry was; I'm not
scrolling all the way back down there again): Yes, there
is a creator god or Great Spirit. Where else would the
universe come from, and more importantly why? Out of all
the theories on the universe's existence I've heard, all
those not involving a creator don't even begin to fill the
gaps. I don't disagree with some sort of intelligence
behind the world, just the various forms it takes with
regards to us.
Jinxster --
* 105. #102: Neither, actually; I'm from the Brethren in
Christ, which is a small Anabaptist denomination (related
to Mennonites and Amish, if you can believe it). But it's
as close to Protestantism as Orthodoxy is to Roman
Catholicism, say.
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 106. #103: A new source of energy and organization will be
needed for that to occur. According to the second law of
thermodynamics, entropy increases in the aggregate (that
is, universe-wide) over time.
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 107. Because the universe, defined simply as "all that
is", is a closed system by definition, no possible outside
source of energy can exist. For life to come from death
requires a new source of life to begin with.
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 108. #104: "The various forms it takes"... you mean the
various conceptions of God or the life force that people
have? I disagree with most of them too, including a lot
held by many Christians.
Lord Kalhoun I --
* 109. As pagan and lurker I was going to weigh in to the
whole debate that has been raging above when I realized
one very scary thing...
--
* 110. #80 Has got to be one of the funniest things I have
ever seen in my life, esp. coming from Mandeer and a
perfect slogan for the 90's!!
--
* 111. That said : yer all wrong, I have proof, but I'm not
going to show you ... besides, I'm late to go home from
work
--
* 112. Oh 'eck there I go not signing things again
Bozo the Clown -- bozodclown@ring.ling.bros.com
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