Submitted by: Third Children- I think that in the end, it was a sense of lonliness that drove Shinji to make that decision. In the real world there was pain for him, not a sense of being alone. In the 'Ocean of LCL' the wasn't the individualism that he was used to. In the end he chose the pain of fear and rejection over the shallowness that is 'Instrumentality'.
On another note to Sasami's posting. The 'Ocean of LCL' on earth is the composition of the world's people. In my belief on this, when the souls, now orbiting Earth, want to the same individualism, they too can return (Having their bodies reformed out of the LCL. So, in a sense, Shinji and Asuka really aren't the new 'Adam and Eve'.
Submitted by: Robyn Bennett- I've only seen the television series, so don't think that my post is dumb or anything because I haven't seen the movies. I think that at the end of the series third impact hadn't occured, but instrumentality had been implimented. Shinji decided that his life was worth living with others instead experiencing the pain of lonliness. In the episode where Rei sacrifices her EVA and herself to save Shinji, the "Angel" talks to Rei and shows her the pain of lonliness. Nobody wants to be alone, and in the end, Shinji was just running from that pain too. This post probably seems rambling and incoherent, and STUPID to anyone who saw the movies, but I'm tired now, I only got 6 hours of sleep in the last couple of days.
Submitted by: jomatakeru14- I'm not sure I can believe that Shinji and Asuka are the new Adam and Eve. If humanity evolved into a higher state, and God allowed it, why would he choose to have 2 people 'de-volve' back into the previous imperfect form to start that imperfect form anew. It seems to me that Asuka and Shinji must have evolved yet in their new reality they are interacting.
Submitted by: Nate- Am I wrong, or doesn't Shinji strangle and kill Asuka at the end of E of E?? Anyways, if this is true I see the movie and 25/26 endings as like two sides of a coin. In the TV Shinji realizes the joy and acceptance of lif
e and individuality, etc. It's more than that but im not sure how to express it any further... In E of E , especially with the last line , it is the other side of the coin of life / individuality after he is alone, and strangles asuka, he realizes the punsishment and pain that he must suffer, li
ke all of us. I personall like the TV ending better because Im an optimist, but they definitely "complement" (Haha) each other well. In terms of which is true, though "I'm going to have to say 25 / 26 with E of E being an example to show the other side, not really true or a dream, just there.
thats it, well really theres more, but lets just leave it at this series dug so deep into my thoughts and feelings that i wouldnt or couldnt begin to express the depths of them
Bye.
Submitted by: Moiraine Sedai- ) How are all you people getting acess to they movie!?!?!? oh well anyway I only saw the TV series ending too and all this talk about 3rd impact...I don't get it! I didn't think it ever happened, only I read the back of my tape and it said it did. If anyone can clear this up for me PLEASE e-mail me. But personally I think Shinji is very brave and the only brave person to actually confront himself and realize what he really is and how he can change himself. If you think about it, it seems like no one else has ever done that.
Submitted by: Malachy- In response to Nate's post: no, Shinji does not kill Asuka. He starts to because he still remembers the sequence while inside of Lilith when he was fighting with Asuka. He can't bear to look at the one person he loves, while she feel nothing but hate towards him. However, when Asuka reaches up and Shinji's face, he realizes that she must really love him after all and he stops.
Submitted by: ayanami clone 00- Near the end of the moive yui asks shinji if this is what he really wants. when she does I think she is asking shinji does he want to stay in his own reality or does he want to join everyone in the third impact. He decides that he wants to stay in his own reality not the third impact. I don't think that Asuka is really there with him. it's what he wants reality to be. Remember Yui says that reality is what you want it to be and this is what he wants to be with someone who hates him just as much as he hates himself. i really don't think Shinji ever comes to terms with his self hatered and asuka is someone who is not fond of him. I think he would rather put up with Asuka's hatred then his own self hatred. everyone asumes sense he and Asuka are toghter that She love's him but if this is all just a reality that shinji creates that doesn't have to be. If you asume that Asuka does love Shinji that would mean shinji must face the one thing he doesn't want to his self hatred. ! As to why Shinji stops himself from killing Asuka it is so he won't have to face his own self hatered. It just doesn't seem right to have this happy ending because when eva was written Anno was still indepression and this work was ment to reflect that a happy ending just doesn't seem to fit. A lot of people think that all shinji wants is to be liked and cared for but deep down I think Shinji just doesn't want to deal with his own self hatred thats why he goes to his father better to deal with hatred of someone else then your self.
Submitted by: rui yi- I think, though haven't had the pleasure of
watching the damn movie, (not out in Australia yet),
that Shinji was just being his usual, pathetic,
cowardly self. He could of become part of the whole but
he wanted a world where no one could cause him pain so he wanted
everyone dead...stupid logic. AND Rei being the good mother let hiim
have his desire along with the Asuka...
Pretty sick in a way...incest all along the generations.