Thought log abandon all hope of coherent knowlege all who enter here in fact how did you get here? Covers thoughts including 11/09/2001 but the answer is thoughts are jumping and flighty things not ongoing logical things more like motifs or ghosts inside the machine.

Actually I will sensor it a bit around 11/09/2001

10/09/01 16:33:29 islaam on the march population wars vs catholicism
10/09/01 16:37:02 how has judaism survived with no evangelisation and a slow dispersal of the faithful maybe it needs isreal to give it focus and strength
10/09/01 16:39:28 really cut down on the food and do more exercise
10/09/01 17:06:01 always going at least one level below what is necessary like dealing with dad like dealing with people maybe be deliberately simple do not look for the key in previoud conversations look for the prize world peace recovery sex wakr up early
10/09/01 19:22:44 focuss on being more relaxed and a better conversationalist by talking to people how come tara gets away with butterflying and talking to everyone where I feel I need to bring something concrete to the table
10/09/01 19:53:46 other people do not deal in facts and are quite willing to talk the solution -- there is not solution just be true to your self sincere and enthusiastic about the things you like value ideas and people like jewels because you never know when another one will come along
11/09/01 13:11:02 well let them eat cake just have not found my grouve yet nice of donal to point out that i am swamped
11/09/01 14:04:43 even picking up ann i was in two minds whether to hit the party or not
11/09/01 14:05:29 i suppose married men are not as hungry rrrrrr
11/09/01 14:05:46 no problem
11/09/01 14:24:09 twin towers hit by terrorist or freedom fighter attack
11/09/01 14:47:09 that is one way to bypass security .
11/09/01 15:25:27 us and isreal and empire building by selective nurtuting of satellite states. palestine is not one of the preferred states but even handed ness is not the way forward in this game
11/09/01 16:22:21 i suppose the answer is the us can act as arbitrator (is that not the un s rule) rather go abroad looking for dragons it looks like it has found a dragon. I suppose countries has to choose its allies carefully as by choosing its allies it also chooses its enemys. Why is the u.s. the great satan again I suppose the iragi war and its distaste for muslim regimes I suppose basically it is different I suppose if there were more palestininiens in the us people would see it as a compromise rather than some coordinated evil force
11/09/01 16:45:10 like a son from a father launched to seek its own target the palestinian dead have family who will say america was and is intransagence.
11/09/01 16:54:39 tara saying shoot them down without hesitation irish guy thinking of the political consequences . maybe the americans do see themselves under siege. what are the principles behind which america stands, should they have a principaled stance and not consider .. but I am wool gathering.
11/09/01 17:37:30 or maybe it is the all embracing power of the us that makes them the great satan a force for uncontrollable change, what is not for me is against me in the eyes of religous zealots.
11/09/01 18:14:31 I seek the big picture to surround and envolpe my difficulties if I can find some traction on far off problems maybe near ones should not be so bad. palestine and american sand bags my have been a start but everyone is trying their best, I am no different it is just the difficulty of joining a community. i suppose god is great and the demonstration of some peoples fanatical belief is in some way a proof of his pull. extremists pull more as they have more mechanisms to pull on I am dithering there are always extremists I suppose some founded the usa the world is an interlocking of values with population explosion belief and commerce intertwined
11/09/01 18:16:26 what is not for me is against me in the eyes of religous zealots, and the usa.. where is the un .. against israel in some clauses
11/09/01 18:42:36 nobody is the great satin the answer is to keep us talking and listening too each other in a distributed mosaic leaving room for each to grow, but now we have covered and interlocked the planet turf wars become a disaster if it is just about land there is no way of buying the other person off where is the win win
11/09/01 19:15:07 how would america not be considered the great satan pay its dues and work within the un i suppose and keep talking and listening to everybody including cuba libya and iraq
11/09/01 19:24:36 the great satan is unmoved by your opinions ans viewpoints it is not playing in your compromising valpark so if it does not compromise why should you and grow to be more like it becoming inflexible and without connection to the world
12/09/01 13:43:30 everything is brain dump of what can be said rather than what would square the circle
12/09/01 15:28:01 why must i think in a split way that leads me off the path into a thicket and can only work within reach of a road
12/09/01 15:30:55 long running philosophical debates are designed to almost have no resolution but it gives one hats to look at problems or come to terms with circumstances i am shrinking to nothing my far out suggestions are just trying to give me traction somewhere in the real world a comm line even if I am in the thicket or briar patchthe danger is I am unble to get my work done
12/09/01 15:39:56 and the us should set up extradition treates with arab states and even liase with their intelligence agencies, or set up a legal procedure for folloming up on these attacks like was done for war crimes in former yugoslaviamaybe through UN
12/09/01 16:05:14 my initial reaction was to have witnesse such an event gives meaning to this part of my life but it is shocking using airliners as cruise missiles they can use that tactic anywhere even against east point business park with it largely american based software companies, or against us embassies its a bit letting the cat out of the bag the answer is more dialogue if there is a god are we just in one of his crystal balls or dice and even he is unsure what will happen next hopefully our free will will point us to a promised land where people are motivated by other things maybe money and this sort of thing is less likely maybe even the current wave of suicide bombers are stepping back and thinking like they have reinvented the nuclear weapon that anyone can use. maybe secrecy and the internet facilitates coordination of such events but things cannot be un invented. what will the us do.. it must pull in and integrate with the arab states and be seen as carrying trade carrots rather than military sticks.. but I ramble.. we must know more of other people or take with other people the extremists can be undermined if the less extreme do not see the enemy as an absolute. back to my value problem.
12/09/01 16:24:45 maybe europe will gain by becoming more of a melting pot if america closes its borders
12/09/01 17:12:03 was thinking of posting to newsnet views about the us moving forward but then what is the point I would only get flamed and I probably do not want to start a new topic
12/09/01 18:31:37 spreading a rumour in a population and news posts at various times
12/09/01 20:26:49 trying to out bigpicture my sorrow shame realise that real people have to deal with big problems I am just a little person who cannot deal with my own small problems it is pretty shit and no message back from kirsi though I did get a message from jane today
13/09/01 11:26:38 it really is a rumour spread in the population i suppose el al is going to be the example you cant just shut off the pilots but you can have a forced auto pilot with perhaps fly by wire from the ground
13/09/01 11:38:49 its all about negociation and having deliverable win win goals I suppose if America wields a big stick then others might take an extreme approach I suppose the solutin is to talk and un a bigger role and i do not know the answer is diversity is strength and their should be ground rules and a sliding scale to tilt the table but how does one bring the joe soap on the street in when the leader does stuff I do not know
13/09/01 12:06:53 mohammed ali and nation of islam and all that stuff an interesting side line alluded to the mohammed is the greatest newsgroup line
13/09/01 13:06:23 there is no answer shit happens I am not responsable in any way the answer is to sow doubt in the face of extremists so they do not see their way as the only way
13/09/01 13:19:59 intelligence humility and courage yet I do not seem to be able to talk to people about this just make impish comments when the answer is to say nothing but I have been saying nothing all my life and look where it has got me
13/09/01 15:34:37 my wasting government time was a cloaking device for terrorists and a way of pushing government effort else where rather than a mutually assured destruction arms race i use the word terrorists without qualification as I am not in a qualifying kind of mood I suppose that is correct for the time my mind having been changed by external events maybe ones quantum mind is shaken to the core but my equilibrium is always off. funny that un article 5 should be involed for the first time on an attack to America.
13/09/01 16:50:32 might be able to use this spike of information to see how far and in depth the internet searches are.
13/09/01 17:28:17 why am i apart from all this it is because I feel I cannot fulfill my commitments.. am I a real boy
13/09/01 18:08:24 maybe I am trying to flatten information hierarchies but all it means is I cannot build anything out of this information soup full of brain dumps. I suppose brain dumps are like cores one needs to know what one can get out of them.
13/09/01 18:30:40 I just like having the linux option available it makes me feel that I am keeping my little hand in into the bigger picture
15/09/01 17:07:56 aspirational if poring pap from the pop culture
15/09/01 17:09:11 where does the us creation of wealth go maybe they need a focus a manned mission to mars a search for extraterrestrial life something that even the arab world could believe in