[20:02] <@southern^shell> is that ok... RolePlay vs. Scenes of the lifestyle ~ The Differences Wednesday September 14, 2005 ~9:00 pm CST ~ #The_D/s_Parlor ~ Presentation and Open Forum on how Roleplay differs form Scenes. Conducted via Orator
[20:02] <@Orator> Oh yeah - looks great!
[20:11] <@southern^shell> it will be quite in here for a few but will start picking up as we get closer to the topic hour
[20:12] * @Orator picks up
[20:12] <@Orator> "In days of old when knights were bold and journeyed from their castles..."
[21:00] <@Orator> So we're here to talk about the difference in fantasy role play and scening.
[21:01] <@Orator> Some really good friends of mine (who will rename anonymous) *cough fufu shell cough* first helped me to grasp the difference.
[21:02] <{opal`}D> forgive my interuption :) .. and thank you
[21:02] <@Orator> So...is there anybody here who doesn't understand the difference?
[21:02] * {opal`}D quietly takes a seat and smiles as she listens
[21:02] * leo^j puts his hand up
[21:02] <@Orator> Excellent leo^j!
[21:02] <@Orator> Do you know what a scene is leo?
[21:03] ie: part of a movie
[21:03] segment
[21:03] * leo^j shrugs
[21:03] the next subdivision under an Act
[21:03] * leo^j nods
[21:03] <@Orator> lol
[21:03] thats the word i was after
[21:03] <@Orator> Yeah - that's right!
[21:03] <@Orator> But...here...we thikn of it slightly differently.
[21:04] <@Orator> A scene is where two conscenting parties act out a public display of some common interest.
[21:04] <@Orator> For instance...a bondage scene where one ties and manipulates another.
[21:04] <@Orator> The two parties agree on limits...
[21:05] <@Orator> ...or are familiar enough with each other to know limits.
[21:05] <+Controller> I would like to ammend that a little :o) - A sceene is a showing of (in this case) BDSM activity
[21:05] <+Gryphon> showing?
[21:05] <@Orator> Displaying in a public shannel.
[21:05] <@Orator> channel
[21:05] <@Orator> For example...in a public channel...
[21:06] <+Gryphon> if it's in private it isn't a scene??
[21:06] * @Orator raises shelly's cuffed hands to the chain above...locks the cuffs to the hook, and raises her up...
[21:06] <@southern^shell> yes it is ---
[21:06] <+Controller> Gryphon: I think some would say no - I think yes
[21:06] * @LadyDesire{m|} smiles if no one is watching how can it be a scene Gryphon?
[21:06] <@Orator> It is a scene in both cases.
[21:06] <@southern^shell> *giggles* and looks at Orator heyyyy
[21:06] <@Orator> But we're talking in public.
[21:06] <@Orator> lol
[21:06] * leo^j smirks
[21:06] <@LadyDesire{m|}> a scene is something ppl view
[21:06] * @Orator lets shelly down REAL quick
[21:06] <+Gryphon> I think it is even if it's just 2 people playing with each other
[21:07] just like a tree in the forest :)
[21:07] <{opal`}D> I was always under the belief that the scene was where two person's .. publicly or privately... experienced some aspects of sexual and/or bdsm activities together..
[21:07] <@southern^shell> well a scene in the d/s realm is not always public
[21:07] <{opal`}D> can be more then two of course
[21:07] <+Controller> or an empty message window!
[21:07] lol
[21:07] <@southern^shell> it can be between two individuals
[21:07] * +Controller throws a gum wrapper at pixlet
[21:08] <@Orator> Yeah...it can be between two or any number.
[21:08] <@Orator> AS LONG...
[21:08] <@Orator> As it's safe, sane, and consensual.
[21:08] * lil_witchy will brb
[21:08] * lil_witchy (wicked@EA377178.644864B4.30A902FE.IP) has left #the_d/s_parlor
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> anyone care for the definition of a scene?
[21:09] <@Orator> Yeah....
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> scene Audio pronunciation of "scene" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sn)
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> n.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 1. Something seen by a viewer; a view or prospect.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 2. The place where an action or event occurs: the scene of the crime.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 3. The place in which the action of a play, movie, novel, or other narrative occurs; a setting.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 4.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 1. A subdivision of an act in a dramatic presentation in which the setting is fixed and the time continuous.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 2. A shot or series of shots in a movie constituting a unit of continuous related action.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 5.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 1. The scenery and properties for a dramatic presentation.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 2. A theater stage.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 6. A real or fictitious episode, especially when described.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 7. A public display of passion or temper: tried not to make a scene.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 8.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 1. A sphere of activity: observers of the political scene.
[21:09] <@LadyDesire{m|}> 2. Slang. A situation or set of circumstances: a bad scene; a wild scene.
[21:09] <+Controller> A sceene is a showing of (in this case) BDSM activity - as I said
[21:10] <@Orator> Right...but BDSM is just one type of scene.
[21:11] <+Gryphon> but that's what we're discussing
[21:11] <@southern^shell> yes exactly
[21:11] <@Orator> Yep.
[21:12] <+Controller> ^^ I think I'm still right :)
[21:12] <@Orator> You are right Controller!
[21:12] <@Orator> lol
[21:12] <@Orator> So...
[21:12] * {opal`}D smiles softly to her Master and moves over for him to sit beside her
[21:12] <@Orator> Who can give a basic difference between a scene and role play?
[21:13] <@Orator> ?
[21:13] umm may i try?
[21:13] * leo^j sits on his hands this time
[21:13] <@Orator> Sure pix.
[21:13] not sure ...but...
[21:13] * Douglas` smiles, and takes a seat alongside my slave. Greetings, girl.
[21:13] a scene is more of an intimate act....where as role play is just that play
[21:13] acting out
[21:14] <@Orator> Well...that's along the right lines pix, but we can be a bit more specific.
[21:14] <+Gryphon> role play doesn't necessarily have as much of a physical bdsm involvement
[21:14] both are acting out in a sense but scene to me on irc is more intimate than "role play"
[21:14] anyway that is my try and thought on it
[21:14] <@Orator> A role play might be if I was pretending to be something I'm not...like a wizard...
[21:14] yes
[21:14] exactly
[21:14] pretend
[21:14] act
[21:15] vs a true scene
[21:15] <@Orator> If I *poof* become Orator the wizard, then I'm taking on another role.
[21:15] <@southern^shell> my thoughts are ... A scene will be activity of two or more individuals that can be done in real life --- a Role play will be more of a fantasy life where there are characters .. and general involves majic
[21:15] tho there is a fine line dont you all think?
[21:15] yes southern^shell!
[21:15] <@Orator> Right southern^shell.
[21:15] <@southern^shell> yes there is a fine line
[21:15] <@Orator> Right too pix.
[21:15] <@Orator> There can be a very fine line.
[21:15] it really is difficult to define the two tho there is a diff
[21:16] a scene is more true
[21:16] <@southern^shell> are roleplayers can be very sensual ... a Vamp biting can be soooooooooo sensual
[21:16] more real
[21:16] for lack of better wording
[21:16] yes it can be
[21:16] but role play is just that
[21:16] role play
[21:16] <@southern^shell> but then when you bring the majic - power of the vamp into it that crossed the line
[21:16] you can role play in a marketing meeting
[21:16] but to scene is a bit diff
[21:16] southern^shell: they don't need to involve magic....Example: Dr Role play
[21:16] no magic there
[21:16] very true mere
[21:17] <@southern^shell> mereTr|x{LD} - thus for the word generally
[21:17] * @{kalina}EM smiles
[21:17] * Controller` is now known as Controller
[21:17] most of the role play I can think of doesn't involve ma(g|j)i(c|k)
[21:17] <@southern^shell> and Dr-nurse is a form of D/s Role play --- were more talking the fantasy role play like Vamps, Wolves, Wizards,
[21:18] if a person is into majic then so be it that is their role play
[21:18] anyway
[21:18] Can I be and evil Vampire?
[21:18] * pixlet slips back and listens quietly
[21:18] * pixlet tosses the gum wrapper back at Controller
[21:19] <@southern^shell> Let me redifine this a moment ....
[21:19] <@{kalina}EM> aw wait i'd lke to speak on that
[21:19] roleplay when u play another character then...
[21:19] <@{kalina}EM> i do not just roleplay magick
[21:19] * @{kalina}EM looks to shelly and Orator
[21:19] <@southern^shell> hold thoughts for a moment please
[21:19] * @{kalina}EM nods
[21:20] <@southern^shell> *smiles*
[21:21] <@southern^shell> ok D/s - BDSM activity is going to be more of the real life -- there is role plays in that such as puppy, doc, age
[21:21] <@southern^shell> those are generally role plays referred to as fetishes
[21:21] * pixlet nods
[21:22] <@Orator> So you could say that if it's something that you can actually do in real life, it's not fantasy.
[21:22] <@Orator> It's doable...
[21:22] but some would say you could scene that but i dont see how...it still boils down to how southern^shell said it
[21:22] <@southern^shell> Fantasy is just that a fantasy you can't partake in it truely in real life parts of it is left to your imagination such as living on Mars
[21:22] very very true Orator~~~
[21:22] * @Orator nods
[21:22] ding ding ding!!
[21:23] that is it Orator!!!!!!!!
[21:23] <+Controller> will someone stop pixlet playing with that cowbell?
[21:23] <@Orator> lol Controller
[21:23] * pixlet looks and slips back to corner
[21:24] <@southern^shell> exactly -- it is dueable ... but there is that fine line, is it dueable to be a puppy girl are a 18 year old at 44
[21:24] <@Orator> So a scene is something that could be done in reality...fantasy role play is something that involves that which you can imagine, but not actually do.
[21:24] * @Orator nods
[21:24] so then everything u do is a scene then
[21:24] <@Orator> That makes a lot of sense.
[21:24] <@Orator> Yes leo^j, as long as it's something that could actually be done.
[21:25] <@southern^shell> right even in role play it is a scene
[21:25] <@southern^shell> Roleplay will have charetors
[21:25] <@Orator> Being beamed up to the Enterprise is fantasy.
[21:25] <@Orator> (for now)
[21:25] <@Orator> Being beat with a beam is not fantasy.
[21:25] <@Orator> lol
[21:25] <@southern^shell> opal and Douglas would you like to explain about characters and the higherarcy
[21:26] <@southern^shell> beattttttt me Orator
[21:26] * {opal`}D looks to southern^shell
[21:26] * @Orator chuckles
[21:26] * @Orator purrrrrrrrrrrs
[21:26] <{opal`}D> well sis.. i am not exactly an experienced roleplayer compared to most..
[21:27] <{opal`}D> Master and i created our roleplay so that we could enjoy it by participating in a storyline we felt comfortable with
[21:27] * @{kalina}EM sits back listening
[21:27] * mereTr|x{LD} came accross an interesting D/D like channel earlier this week.....it's just not my thing
[21:27] ok the more we discuss this the more confuckled i get
[21:27] * +Douglas` listens as opal speaks.
[21:27] tho i still say scene is more real
[21:27] role play is just that play!
[21:27] as in a play
[21:27] * @Orator nods to {opal`}D
[21:27] to act out
[21:27] <@Orator> Please go on {opal`}D
[21:27] <{opal`}D> what exactly did you wish me to explain shelly ?? lol
[21:28] <@Orator> The characters you role play with...
[21:28] <@southern^shell> if i remember correctly you have roles in your room - characters and each have a place
[21:28] <@southern^shell> one being at the top of the chain so to speak
[21:28] * @Orator dons
[21:28] * @Orator nods even
[21:29] * +Douglas` chuckles.
[21:29] <{opal`}D> in our storyline it gets quiet complicated.... we have 3 races/cultures.. The Dan, based on gorean styles.. but with more respect to women... the Addassu based on 16th century medieval culture... and the Aslani.. a humanoid-feline race
[21:30] <@Orator> That's very interesting {opal`}D.
[21:30] <{opal`}D> the leader of the Dan... is the Gor`Dan... he rules his people.. women are all submissive.. though they are slaves there as well.. male and female slaves
[21:30] <{opal`}D> the leader of the Addassu is the High Lord... they have servants, employees, and independently free.. men and women
[21:30] <{opal`}D> not necessarily dominants
[21:31] * +Controller falls out of the chair
[21:31] excuse me please A/all
[21:31] <{opal`}D> is this what you mean shelly ?
[21:31] <@southern^shell> exactly
[21:31] <+Controller> pixlet: take ya gum wrapper with you too
[21:31] * +Douglas` smiles
[21:31] <@southern^shell> it is roll play --- very nice --- very enjoyable -- and even sensual
[21:31] doesnt it in the end just all boils down to what people prefer to call their time together
[21:31] <@Orator> That's an excellent example of fantasy role playing.
[21:32] <@Orator> Not necessarily pixlet.
[21:32] * pixlet sighs
[21:32] yes but what opal says is also what many would call scenening
[21:32] <{opal`}D> and so far we have 9 people in our roleplay sis
[21:32] only she and her Master call it scening
[21:32] <@Orator> Yeah....think of it as scening+.
[21:33] Good description.
[21:33] <+Douglas`> May I add my two cents' worth, here?
[21:33] Very interesting social construct.
[21:33] <@Orator> Please Douglas`.
[21:33] some may call their intimate time as scening wehere others would define it as role play
[21:33] still a very very super fine line
[21:33] oops i meant opal calls it role play
[21:34] <{opal`}D> it is not our intimate time sis.. lol.. we share it with others.. our roleplays are not often sexual
[21:34] <+Douglas`> Part of the appeal for this roleplay -- at least for me (and opal, too, I think) is that it lets us explore aspects of a D/s relationship that are inconsistent to what we "really" are.
[21:34] <{opal`}D> our intimate time is very sexual
[21:34] <@southern^shell> RolePlays are not always sexual
[21:34] <+Controller> opal: any tapes?
[21:34] <{opal`}D> a roleplay is acting out a continually story
[21:34] <@southern^shell> even Gorean leans away form sex and more into the control
[21:35] <+Gryphon> most anything Gorean is role play in that it's taking defined roles from works of fiction
[21:35] * @{kalina}EM smiles softly tucking her legs under herself
[21:35] <+Douglas`> opal and I are a very loving D/s couple .... whereas in the roleplay, we can explore a few more "extreme" aspects of D/s than we might otherwise be inclined to do.
[21:35] * +Controller snags a beanbag as the recliner is dangerous
[21:36] * @{kalina}EM looks to Gryphon "not fully Sir"
[21:36] <+Gryphon> how so?
[21:36] * @{kalina}EM smiles softly waiting for shelly to finish before speaking
[21:36] <+Controller> I have meet people from "gorean" groups that have transposed aspects into a 24/7 RL relationship
[21:36] <@southern^shell> Impossible Controller
[21:36] <@southern^shell> no offense meant
[21:37] <@southern^shell> buttttttttt
[21:37] * pixlet raise hand to Douglas`?
[21:37] <@southern^shell> and kalina help me a sec ... were is gor at
[21:37] ok i see the definition now.. what you say is just as orator said
[21:37] <+Douglas`> Yes, pixlet?
[21:37] which is what i agree it is
[21:37] role play you explore the out of norm or out of reality so to speak
[21:38] * Otto26 chuckles
[21:38] <@{kalina}EM> it is called counter earth exactly on the opposite side of the sun to where neithe planet can see the other
[21:38] <+Douglas`> That is how I view it, pixlet, yes.
[21:39] * {opal`}D smiles and listens to kalina
[21:39] <+Controller> southern^shell: you want to know where Gor is? physically?
[21:39] * @{kalina}EM laughs
[21:39] * shybutterfly[C] sits down quietly and listens to the discussion
[21:39] i really dont think thats the point of this topic everyone
[21:39] * fantasy`sleeping-afc is now known as fufu`ookami
[21:39] <@{kalina}EM> it does 't exiast Controller Sir, but that is where it is said to be in the books
[21:40] <+Controller> yeah - I sufggested that aspects of what is in the books was trasfered as some of a relationship between people
[21:40] -> Ops #the_d/s_parlor: for all the sexy ops: plus everyone please
[21:40] * @{kalina}EM smiles looking to shelly and Orator
[21:41] <+leo^j> :)
[21:41] <@Orator> So...
[21:41] * @fufu`ookami snuggles against shelly for a few minutes
[21:41] <@fufu`ookami> go on Orator :)
[21:42] <+shybutterfly[C]> please pardon my interruption....
[21:42] <@Orator> Hey there fufu`ookami! (forgot tos ay hey)
[21:42] * +{opal`}D smiles to Orator as she listens
[21:42] <+Otto26> We are discussing the difference between roleplaying and scening? Yes?
[21:42] <+{opal`}D> yes Otto
[21:42] <@fufu`ookami> fantasy roleplaying
[21:42] <@fufu`ookami> theres a difference
[21:42] <@Orator> Well...fantasy role playing and scening.
[21:42] <+shybutterfly[C]> thank You for telling me, Orator
[21:43] <@Orator> To pixlet's point earlier, role playing and scening can be verrrry close.
[21:43] <+Otto26> Thank you.
[21:43] <@Orator> However, the fantasy aspect comes into it when you're doing things that aren't possible...
[21:43] * @Orator waves his wand and turns that table into a refrigerator
[21:43] <@Orator> BUZZZZZZZZz
[21:43] * @fufu`ookami smiles
[21:43] <@Orator> Fantasy.
[21:43] * +{opal`}D grins..
[21:44] * @Orator sticks his finger in that open light socket and gets a SHOOOOOOOOOOOOCK
[21:44] <@Orator> Not fantasy.
[21:44] * @fufu`ookami laughs
[21:44] <+Otto26> To me the difference is simply how close to reality the play hews. As Douglas points out, removing reality from the picture allows for more leeway in play. I'd never rape a woman but I've engaged in that sort of fantasy play with partners, for example.
[21:44] <@Orator> (Stupid, yes)
[21:44] <@fufu`ookami> thats not fantasy though
[21:44] <@Orator> Right.
[21:44] <@fufu`ookami> we're talking things that dont exist
[21:44] <@Orator> That's an Orator scene...
[21:44] <@Orator> Oh - nevermind
[21:44] <@fufu`ookami> vamps, wolves, wizards (*like d&d)
[21:45] <@fufu`ookami> werewolves^
[21:45] * @{kalina}EM smiles softly
[21:45] <+{opal`}D> yes.. and magically materialising from one place to another with portals
[21:45] <+{opal`}D> or mind telepathy
[21:45] <@fufu`ookami> yes opal
[21:45] <@fufu`ookami> point is you dont see much of normal obvious fantasy in scenes
[21:46] * @Orator nods
[21:46] <@fufu`ookami> but you do see, the power struggles
[21:46] <+Douglas`> Well, as opal knows, I have difficulty wrapping my brain around fantasy (neve having read the genre, or much fiction at all) .... so my roleplay self is more grounded in reality, but still clearly roleplay, nonetheless.
[21:46] <@fufu`ookami> vamp vs wolf, vamp vs victim
[21:46] <+Otto26> That's becasue a scene must be believable. You can only suspend so much disbelief.
[21:46] <+shybutterfly[C]> are we talking about online only?
[21:47] <@fufu`ookami> mostly shybutterfly[C]... but this can carry over rl, but most of it is stuff you see online
[21:47] <@LadyDesire{m|}> my biggest issue with the terminology is that often the definition of a word is kicked to the curb for what is popular
[21:47] <@southern^shell> well Dnd isn't online
[21:47] * +shybutterfly[C] nods
[21:47] <+shybutterfly[C]> thank you
[21:47] <@fufu`ookami> acutally sis it is some
[21:47] <@fufu`ookami> lol
[21:47] <@fufu`ookami> ok let me do something
[21:47] <@fufu`ookami> shellyyyyyyy
[21:47] <@fufu`ookami> :D
[21:47] <@southern^shell> lol hides and *giggles* t
[21:47] <@southern^shell> yesssss sis *s*
[21:47] * @fufu`ookami drags shelly back to her and giggles, youre my helper :)
[21:47] <+Otto26> Good point about the definition of words.
[21:48] * @southern^shell skip a doodles over
[21:48] <@LadyDesire{m|}> as in the term scene...the defiintion clearly states what it is yet becuase its 'popu;ar' in BDSM the true definition is ignored...the same happens in hypnosis & 'mind control'........no wonder ppl get confused and cant wrap their brains around things
[21:48] * @Orator nods
[21:49] <@southern^shell> ok all were going to moderate for one sec please ...
[21:49] <+mereTr|x{LD}> we like to confuse foreigners trying to learn our language
[21:49] <+Controller> I thought it was simply applied to the specific
[21:49] <+mereTr|x{LD}> that's all
[21:49] * +mereTr|x{LD} grins
[21:49] * @fufu`ookami ok HELLOOOOOO
[21:49] <@fufu`ookami> did anyone see me say let me show you something :D
[21:50] <@Orator> Yes, I did fufu.
[21:50] * +shybutterfly[C] is desperately trying to follow along
[21:50] * @fufu`ookami pulls shelly to her, slowly running her fingers over shells curves, nipping gently at her neck
[21:51] <@fufu`ookami> (we'll only be mod;d for a min, i think "seeing" the dif will help more then just talking it out)
[21:51] * @southern^shell whimpers and cocking her neck enjoying the sensation of the nibbles and bites
[21:52] * @fufu`ookami growls softly, leaning in closer as she gently bites down into her neck, letting the blood flow from the open wound, feeding her craving
[21:53] * @southern^shell mind escapes as the pasions flow through her the sensation of her teeth peircing the skin
[21:54] * @fufu`ookami grins and pulls back kissing the sweet shelly
[21:54] <@fufu`ookami> ok now thattttttttttt is part of a scene... is it doable... yes.......... i do vamp play, but theres a line where fantasy comes into this that isnt normal sceneing
[21:54] * @southern^shell smiles and kisses fufu`ookami
[21:54] <@fufu`ookami> now
[21:55] * @fufu`ookami grins evilly at shelly and just laughs
[21:55] <@southern^shell> ok nowwwwww we have kalina *s*
[21:55] <@fufu`ookami> yayyyy :D
[21:55] * @fufu`ookami pushes kalina up lol
[21:55] * @{kalina}EM smiles softly
[21:55] * @southern^shell smiles
[21:56] * @{kalina}EM rises warmly looking around the room as her crimson lips rise over small sharp teeth looking to Orator with soft violet eyes
[21:56] * @Orator smiles and watches {kalina}EM
[21:57] * @{kalina}EM slowly moves along the shadows, followed by a sweet scent of jasmines, bells ringing coming close to Orator, sliding behind Him gently touching His neck purring coming close to His ear
[21:57] * @Orator listens and smells the scents of kalina as she approaches...
[21:58] * @{kalina}EM trails her tongue tip against His earlobe before the faint touch it gone puling back into the shadows purring watching from them hidden from view
[21:59] * @Orator shivers slightly and savors the sensations...
[22:00] * @{kalina}EM slowly moves up between Orator's legs seeming to emerge from the shadows looking up to Him with her violet eyes, her scent assaulting His senses as she smiles wider feeling the shivers, hands gently pawing at His thighs as her sharp canines begin to emerge but her scent affecting His senses to not fear but give in to her wishes
[22:01] * @Orator watches kalina...feeling her presence...thinking of escape, but not wanting to...
[22:02] * @{kalina}EM gently moves His shirt letting her claws flick over His flesh, trailing a tongue over teasing making His pulse race watching the vein in His neck slowly fill and beat, moving flicking claws over HIs nipples as she teasing nips at His belly then center of chest watching that vein fill, her hugner growihg with each of His heartbeat
[22:04] * @{kalina}EM smiles as her body pushes against His, as her hands soft but strong hold His chin moving back roughly as she leans quick and sinks her fangs into that pulsing vein, her scent leaving Him at the last moment to feel the fear turn Him cold as He knows His doom as she drinks with a growl until His last breath screams from His lips
[22:04] * @Orator shrieks
[22:05] * @{kalina}EM smiles softly and licks His neck of the last drop and giggling softly "and that is close to the roleplay aspect"
[22:05] <@southern^shell> Ok *smiles*
[22:06] <@southern^shell> First before we go onto the discussion of the differnce
[22:06] <@southern^shell> let me clarify a couple things
[22:06] * @Orator checks his neck
[22:06] * @fufu`ookami snugs Or :)
[22:06] * +{opal`}D smiles and claps shelly, fufu, kalina and Orator, softly.... well done.. excellent examples :))
[22:06] * @{kalina}EM giggles kisses the neck and kisses fufu and skips around the room to her Master and drops to her knees at His side
[22:06] * +Douglas` nods, and smiles my concurrence.
[22:07] <@southern^shell> when we are utilizing the word "scene" for all general purposes this is meant as a clarification of play in the d/s life style -- it isn't meant as the definition scene but a general term refering to play
[22:08] <@southern^shell> so really when you here the word scene think BDSM Role
[22:08] <@southern^shell> When we are using role play we are talking about Fantasy Role play not role play such as doc - nurse
[22:09] * @Orator nods
[22:09] <@southern^shell> BDSM role play (scene) will be doable in real life
[22:09] <+Otto26> And that's an excellent definition.
[22:09] <@southern^shell> Fantasy role play in some way will leave parts to the imagination
[22:09] <@southern^shell> such as 16th century
[22:10] <@southern^shell> fufu and kalina's scene shots were very similar
[22:10] <@southern^shell> but kalina carried a few things that are not actually possible in real life
[22:11] <@southern^shell> does anyone see what they were ... and kalina would you like to point them out please
[22:12] * @{kalina}EM smiles softly
[22:12] * +pixlet stands and applauds southern^shell!!!!
[22:12] <@{kalina}EM> i can not travel from one place to another just by moving into one shadow then out another
[22:12] <+pixlet> finally someone who put it into words A/all can understand
[22:12] <@southern^shell> sorry to moderate you all there was mass confussion *s*
[22:13] <+Douglas`> No worries, shell.
[22:13] * +{opal`}D smiles to pixlet..glad she finally gets it
[22:13] <@{kalina}EM> i will NOT bite into a major vein to drink the blood and it will kill my prey
[22:13] <+mereTr|x{LD}> not all medical scenes are doable IRL....for safty reasons
[22:13] * +Controller looks into his bag and rummages around
[22:13] * @Orator checks his neck again
[22:13] <@fantasy`sleeping-afc> thats besides the point mereTr|x{LD}
[22:13] <@{kalina}EM> my scent of flowers and eyes can NOT make someone NOT try to escape if they feel in dangered
[22:14] <@{kalina}EM> my nails at not real claws through they are sharp at times
[22:14] <@Orator> And if you have violet eyes...you should REALLY see a doctor.
[22:14] * @{kalina}EM laughs
[22:14] <+mereTr|x{LD}> When we are using role play we are talking about Fantasy Role play not role play such as doc - nurse
[22:14] <+mereTr|x{LD}> BDSM role play (scene) will be dueable in real life
[22:14] <@{kalina}EM> that too, bu that can be done
[22:14] <+pixlet> ooo opal i got it all along i just could not put it in the easily understandable that southern^shell did :)
[22:14] <+mereTr|x{LD}> ...that was shelly's point
[22:14] <@{kalina}EM> contacts can make eyes violet Sir
[22:14] <@{kalina}EM> so that is a doable
[22:15] <@southern^shell> were not going into the fine details of each role play there is ALWAYs exceptions to things in life
[22:15] * @{kalina}EM smiles softly
[22:16] * +{opal`}D thinks.. Elizabeth Taylor was famous for her violet eyes.. lol
[22:16] * @{kalina}EM laughs softly nodding
[22:16] <@southern^shell> so if we stay on the more general terms then it will be easier
[22:16] <+{opal`}D> yes, shelly.. thank you for the definition :)
[22:17] * @southern^shell hands it back to Orator
[22:17] <@southern^shell> *giggles*
[22:17] * +Otto26 smiles
[22:17] * @Orator clears his throat
[22:17] * @Orator checks his throat
[22:17] <@Orator> Okay...
[22:18] * @{kalina}EM giggles as us women tend to love to talk and yea take over
[22:18] <@Orator> lol
[22:18] * @{kalina}EM smiles licking her licks and sharp teeth looking to the neck mewing
[22:18] * @Orator hadn't noticed.
[22:18] <@Orator> lol
[22:18] * +{opal`}D winks to kalina.. then turns her focus to Orator
[22:18] <@Orator> Okay...so - I've learned some stuff tonight.
[22:19] <@Orator> The "fantasy" part has been my gray area...not really putting all the pieces togeter.
[22:19] <+Otto26> Yes. Thank's for the demonstration. Informative *and* entertaining.
[22:19] <@Orator> Does anybody have any questions?
[22:19] <+pixlet> ty for letting me sit in E/everyone .. this was a most mind bending and mind generating debate.. enjoyed much
[22:20] <+pixlet> please excuse me now for the night
[22:20] <@Orator> You generated a new mind?
[22:20] <+pixlet> xoxox
[22:20] <@Orator> lol
[22:20] <+{opal`}D> take care pixlet
[22:20] <@Orator> Bye pixlet
[22:20] <+pixlet> be well everyone
[22:20] * +Douglas` chuckles.
[22:20] <+Douglas`> Take care, pixlet.
[22:20] <@Orator> Tanks for coming in.
[22:20] * +pixlet slips out quietly
[22:20] <@Orator> Well, I think that kinda wraps it up.
[22:21] * @southern^shell hugssssssss Orator
[22:21] <@Orator> If there's nothing anybody wants to add, then I'd like to thank you all for a most interesting debate!
[22:21] * +shybutterfly[C] stands quietly
[22:21] <+shybutterfly[C]> thank you for letting me listen in tonight
[22:21] <+{opal`}D> thank you Orator and everyone :)) it was very interesting indeed.. i have done both scening and roleplaying.. but never tried to define the difference before :)
[22:21] * @LadyDesire{m|} smiles and waves as she slips out...
[22:22] <+Otto26> Well, at least I caught the crucial part of the discussion. :)
[22:22] <+Douglas`> Indeed. It was a most enlightening evening.
[22:22] <@Orator> I'm glad you enjoyed it.
[22:22] <@Orator> I sure learned a bit mysefl.
[22:22] <@Orator> myself.
[22:22] * +shybutterfly[C] smiles and waves to the room
[22:22] <+Controller> cya Shy
[22:22] <+shybutterfly[C]> thank Y/you again...
[22:25] <{opal`}D> what new things exactly did you learn tonight Orator, if i may ask ?
[22:27] <@Orator> I got a much better understanding of the line between fantasy...
[22:27] * {opal`}D smiles
[22:27] <{opal`}D> yes.. that was well defined.. it was good
[22:27] <+Douglas`> It was a good discussion .. very much so.
[22:28] <+Otto26> I think obscure terminology and poor understanding dogs the online groups.
[22:28] <@Orator> You're right Otto26.
[22:28] <+Douglas`> Well, it is easy to get caught up in semantics, after all.
[22:28] <@Orator> I didn't really start understanding until recently.
[22:29] <{opal`}D> yes it does... but also.. some people are too quick to keep saying that they don't understand.. rather then just listening and trying to understand.. lol
[22:29] <@southern^shell> there is a fine line
[22:29] <@Orator> But I hadn't payed attention either...just kinda cracking the ice of the D/s thing now.
[22:29] <@southern^shell> myself i don't roleplay
[22:29] <{opal`}D> i have recently started.. i love it :)
[22:29] <@southern^shell> I use to in real life opal
[22:30] <+Douglas`> Well, #Izdihaar is my first experience .... but I concede, my character is not much removed from "me."
[22:30] <+Otto26> You play what you know.
[22:30] <{opal`}D> ahh.. i am the opposite.. i enjoy roleplay on irc.... in real life.. lol. i freeze.. go totally paranoid
[22:30] <@southern^shell> and it just got soooo many of the people were so thinking it was real and letting theirselves get upset and hurt over fantasy
[22:31] <+Douglas`> True, to an extent, at least ..... I have seen some roleplayers with incredible imaginations.
[22:31] <+Otto26> So long as I don't have to suspend too much disbelief I don't mind. When the scene becomes unbelievable, I'm done with it.
[22:32] <@southern^shell> lol Controller
[22:32] <@southern^shell> you lost your `
[22:33] <+Controller> better looking now?
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[22:33] <@fireblade> StrictBoss Welcome come in and join the fun:)
[22:33] * StrictBoss (Guest@bondage-hidden-C555F212.dyn.optonline.net) has left #the_d/s_parlor
[22:34] * southern^shell changes topic to 'The gift is in the Power of ExchangeThursday is Poetry Nite!~~~share a poem of your own or that you enjoy @ 10PM EST/9CST/8MST/7PST/11Atlantic/3GMT~~~details at http://www.geocities.com/tsc_usersgroup/ ~~~!webpage (web-bio help) !help & MUST DO !rules'
[22:34] <{opal`}D> i saw one roleplay with a fairy and a human male.. it was sooo entertaining :)) ... and very well done.. he would sneeze and she would roll over in the air.. wings buzzing furiously... and called him biggun all the time.. lol..
[22:34] <{opal`}D> there is a lot of scope in fantasy roleplay :))
[22:34] <@southern^shell> lol Controller buttttttt i lost you
[22:36] <+Controller> maybe I don't want to be found :P
[22:36] * +Controller rumages in his bag some more
[22:39] * +Douglas` rises, and draws opal close.
[22:39] <+Otto26> And Good Night you A/all
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[22:39] * {opal`}D smiles to her Master as she stands beside him.. then looks around the room.. smiling to all
[22:39] <+Douglas`> If you kind people would excuse us both .....
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[22:39] <{opal`}D> night shelly.. hugggs
[22:39] <{opal`}D> thank you again Orator
[22:40] * {opal`}D waves to all and steps from the room
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[22:40] <@Orator> Certainly! And thanks for soping in!
[22:40] <@Orator> stoping
[22:40] <+Douglas`> Take care, all. :)
[22:41] * @southern^shell falls into the couch and eats a peanutbutter cookie
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[22:43] * +Controller (en_slaver@bondage-hidden-8864532B.dyn.iinet.net.au) Quit (Ping timeout)
[22:44] diddle dum
[22:46] <@southern^shell> i am going to be afk for about 15 min
[22:46] <@southern^shell> hugsssssssssss
[22:52] <@{kalina}EM> kk
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[22:55] <@fireblade> Controller Welcome to the place of torture
[22:55] <@southern^shell> WB Controller Sir
[22:55] ta shelly
[22:55] this is the place of torture?
[22:55] kewl - whooz up for it?
[22:57] <@southern^shell> lol nooo the other room is
[22:58] * Controller looks around
[22:58] <@{kalina}EM> welcome back Controller
[22:58] * ChanServ sets mode: +v Controller
[22:58] <@southern^shell> this is the parlor --- living room
[22:59] <@southern^shell> TSC is the bedroom
[22:59] <@southern^shell> lol
[22:59] <+Controller> thanks - umm- kalina? or is it EM? haha
[22:59] * @{kalina}EM smiles
[22:59] <@{kalina}EM> i am kalina
[23:00] * @{kalina}EM points to EdgeMaster "and He is EM my Master"
[23:00] * +Controller hands shelly a gag for latter - for penence :)
[23:00] <@southern^shell> lolol i can do it again Sir *winks*
[23:01] <+Controller> Britney? oops I did it again?
[23:01] <@southern^shell> lolol
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[23:05] <@fireblade> Controller` Welcome --- what would be your favorite thing that puts you on the edge?
[23:05] <@southern^shell> *giggles* wb Sir
[23:05] no - really I am having fun :)
[23:06] * Controller` is now known as Controller
[23:07] <@southern^shell> *giggles*
[23:08] shelly: I think you forgot the gag :)
[23:08] <@southern^shell> lol no
[23:08] <@southern^shell> cause there are none here
[23:09] well thats a change :)
[23:09] <@southern^shell> you have to go to #the_scene_connection
[23:09] <@southern^shell> lol nope
[23:09] <@southern^shell> here is just a safe haven
[23:09] not from what I remember :P haha
[23:09] <@southern^shell> no scenes, no roles all equal
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[23:10] <@Orator> Well folks - I'm off to bed. Y'all have a great night/day/whatever and I'll see'ya again soon!