Knitlist Digest     Wednesday, November 8 2000     Volume 2000 : Number 4202
 
 

In this issue of the KnitList Digest:

  Knit: Miriam's gift pattern     [Sarah and Jamie ]
  Knit: Fixes for Ribbing is no Yoke Simian Arms          [Chuckqiii@aol.com]
  Knit: Re: Charlotte Quiggle's sweater  ["Barbara Snyder"   Knit: Knit Q:  How do you prepare corn (grain) for those warmer bags?  ["T]
  Re: Knit: shawl question          [Anne Niemann ]
  Knit: Knitting at Borders Books    [Susan Barron ]
  Knit: KNIT "N" STYLE             [Sharon Bergersen ]
  Knit: Home from the Hoohah!                [Lisa Souza ]
  Knit: Madison WI Yarn shops  ["Sara J. McGregor"   Re: Knit: Knit Q:  How do you prepare corn (grain) for those warmer  bags?  [BJ Heeke
  Knit: online patterns         [darlene hayes ]
  Knit: what happend to Cast-On?         ["Christine E" ]
  Knit: Re: Knitlist Digest V2000 #4201  [mkdwbarto@webtv.net (Marilyn Barto]
  Knit: Yarn Stores, Madison, Wi; Winter 2000 Cast-On  [Christine Evelyn Squ]
  Knit: Chemo Caps                      ["Paul, Lauren" ]
  Knit: Special knitting needles        ["Lisa Paullin" ]
  Knit: Help!                         [Gwen Long ]
  Knit: Cleaning? Silk question               [Shari Landes ]
  Knit: Results of YON vs. YO                             [Knitter124@cs.com]
  Knit: Looking for someone                               [NANAKNITZ@aol.com]
  Knit: make your own swift  ["Margaret H. Velard"   Knit: Fwd: Fw: [Socknitters] Greater Texas Knit-in  ["LOREDIA POTTS"   Re: Knit: Re: Charlotte Quiggle's sweater  ["Christine Ramey"   Knit: hat design question          ["Maggie Burns" ]
  Knit: Inspiring Knitter!                                 [JoanieDi@aol.com]

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 23:53:20 +1100
From: Sarah and Jamie
Subject: Knit: Miriam's gift pattern

Thanks guys,

I think I have all the 2000 gift patterns so far up now.

Don' forget to send me crochet or recipes directly.

It's midnight now so I'm going to bed.

Sarah :)
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 07:59:40 EST
From: Chuckqiii@aol.com
Subject: Knit: Fixes for Ribbing is no Yoke Simian Arms

Hi All,

Susan wrote:

<< I too just "finished" the Ribbing Is No Yoke design from the Fall
Knitter's.
 I used the Superwash yarn called for,  and when I tried it on before washing
 and blocking it fit fine - but after washing and blocking I was horrified to
 find that the sleeves had grown almost 3 inches!  Now I'm not sure what to
 do - the rest of the sweater still fits fine - can I reblock and try to
 shorten the sleeves, or should I take the whole thing apart and re-knit the
 sleeves shorter.  I hate to even think about the latter, but it's too bad -
 it's a beautiful sweater and came out great except for the ape-like arms.  I
 think maybe I should just stick to scarves and afghans - at least they're
 more forgiving...>>

Truth be told, the same thing happened to me when I worked my gauge
swatches!!! I think that it has to do with the superwash wool and the fact
that there are no "barbs" on the wool to hold it "together".  Something
super-scientific like that It is certainly NOT your knitting, so don't
you go thinking that you ought not to be knitting sweaters, Susan!

When I blocked the sweater that went off to Knitters', I used a measuring
tape and tried to "scrunch" the wet sweater back into the dimentions that I
had planned for, based on that gauge swatch.  (I had DELIBERATELY knit
everything somewhat *shorter* than "finished" measurements, because I knew
from that swatch that my row gauge was going to change after blocking.)
Still, with the larger garment, the sleeve differences were larger, probably
due to gravity.

Long story short, here are some possible solutions:

1) Re-block the sweater, always supporting it so that gravity doesn't further
stretch out the wet fibers. USE A MEASURING TAPE and smoosh those sleeves
into as little space as you can get them and let them dry that way.

2) If they are still too long, go ahead and cut off about 3+ inches from the
sleeves and work back down .  This is easy because they are just stockinette.
 Just snip one thread, and unravel it stitch by stitch, putting the stitches
back on the needles (DPs, or 2 circs a la Joyce Williams, as is *my*
preference). They will have been blocked 2X, so those stitches won't be going
anywhere!   The circumference of the cuffs will be just a bit wider than
you had planned. Do the Reverse SS edge and BO. FINI!

3) If the sleeve cuffs are just too wide for your taste, cut the sleeves off
at a higher point, even just before the yoke, if you want. You can a) knit on
needles 1 size smaller than body (this will decrease your finished row +
stitch gauge), b) decrease the sleeves down at a more rapid rate (i.e. every
5th row, or whatever will get you where you want to be, when you want to be
there!), or both.

BTW, since this sweater is knit in SS, it is  *infinitely* forgiving
- --anywhere you have a problem, you can just CUT IT OFF and re-Knit the
offending portion in the Opposite direction.  Absolutely no need to dismantle
the whole thing (that notion makes me sick to my stomach, too!)  Susan, the
sweater will turn out FINE with just an afternoon's worth of knitting.
Thanks for knitting it!!!

Final note to anyone else who plans to knit this sweater, or frankly ANY
SWEATER: Make sure that you knit up a SIZABLE SWATCH (at least 6X6 with
non-rolling edges at sides, top and bottom), and then wash that swatch in the
manner in which you will wash the finished garment (hand wash it, machine
wash it, whatever). Block it.  ONLY THEN should you take your stitch/row
gauge. Depending on the yarn/fiber, you will be amazed at the amount of
difference between your knitted swatch and your blocked swatch.  Determine
your needle size based on the BLOCKED swatch. When knitting, "Measure"
dimensions in ROWS (*based* on rows per inch as determined by your blocked
swatch), not INCHES because as you know, knit inches on the needles are not
always the same as BLOCKED inches.

Off my soap-box! :-)

Albest,

Charlotte Q in NYC

PS---An aside to Left-handed Flor's message re: the Right Leaning Yoke
decreases.  Funny thing--I am also a STRONG LEFTY, but it never occured to me
to make the decreases in the opposite direction.  Maybe because in *my*
TWISTED world-view, I think of K2TOG as a LEFT DOMINATING decrease, rather
than a "directionally right leaning" decrease. In other words, I *prefer* to
have the left stitches "eat" up the right stitches, rather than the other way
around--sort of a subtle psychological viewpoint and a knitting CONTROL
issue!   Power to the Gauchistas!

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 13:10:50 GMT
From: "Barbara Snyder"
Subject: Knit: Re: Charlotte Quiggle's sweater

Dear Knitsibs:

My, Charlotte Quiggle's pattern is popular!  Lots of us seem to be knitting
it!
I shake my head in amazement whenever Flor writes in and says she knit a
sweater in a week or two.  Egad!  She is my idol!
"I", on the other hand, knit this sweater in three weeks, and was beating my
chest over that.  AND, I used my little knitting machine to knit the long
expanses of stockinette.
To the dear knitter who had the unfortunate lengthening of sleeves, WAAH!  I
hope someone can help you with this problem.
BTW, I used Canadiana in a soft sage green that I bought on sale at Hobby
Lobby.  I was not happy with the hand of this yarn at first.  It was HARD!
I took a leap of faith, threw it in the washer, warm water, regular cycle,
fabric softener in the rinse, and it came out soft as a baby's behind!
Thank you, dear Charlotte, if you are out there, for this wonderful pattern!
  I am not usually one to knit a pattern twice, but all ready I have two
requests for this sweater.  My girls LOVE it!  (They are 20 & 22 yo.)

Barbara, "you know, the nurse who knits"
 
 

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:27:59 -0500
From: "Teknia"
Subject: Knit: Knit Q:  How do you prepare corn (grain) for those warmer bags?

In the past, I have knit up some bags and filled them with the corn (grain
from Agway) for heating up in the microwave.  (pattern found in the 1995
giftlist under Bedwarmers).  These are great for the kids when they come in
from playing out in the snow and their hands and feet are cold.  The only
problem I've found with them is they smell like a barnyard when heated.
I've tried some of these made with cloth at craft fairs and they do not have
the same *smell*.  Is there a trick I'm missing?  I was thinking of rinsing
the corn in a white vinegar/water mix before filling the bags.  Any
comments?

WIPS:  'Gromit knitting' sweater, lots and lots of dishcloths for gifts.
Contemplating trying to knit rugs for our new house with all wide pine
floors (we're due to move around Christmastime!)

Not really knit:  We're in the process of buying our first house--a
farmhouse with 3 acres!  Our family of seven is so excited!  The current
owners have a large sheep there and the kids and I are planning on having
one for our very own, too!  The kids want one to hug and to care for and I
want one to knit from (of course I'll have to hug and care for him/her
too)!!  I have to start from scratch and learn all I can about care, etc. of
a little lamb.  I did have one as a pet when I was in fourth grade, but mom
and dad served her up for dinner.

Sue in NH

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 09:07:22 -0600
From: Anne Niemann
Subject: Re: Knit: shawl question

the eyelets in the lilly chim shawl in the latest knitters dont happen until
the last 20 or so rows. anne ps i loved mine and it was pretty quick after i
maarked the center st on the right side and moved the marker every right side
row so i didnt have to count all the time.

Sharon Bergersen wrote:

> Hi knit pals.
>
> WIP:  Not far from completion ripping and afghan hat I didn't like to get
> more of the yarn
> to complete this should have an fo today.
>
> I started the garter stitch shawl by Lily chin last night from the latest
> knitters and although I
> got gauge on the needles recommended I couldn't manipulate the sts on the
> boye gold tip needle
> aaaaaaaaaah keeps falling out and I was frustrated. I am going to try the
> size 9 from my almost
> never used Denise interchangeable and see if it makes any difference.
>
> Although I didn't get far though I noticed that what I was making didn't
> look like the pattern.
> The chart shows, and I think but could be wrong, 2 rows of eyelets just
> above the finished shawl
> but mine didn't look as shown on the chart.  Mohair is the pits to rip so
> am kindly asking someone who
> has made this shawl to let me know if am missing something.  Thanks so much
> and have a nice day.
>
> --
> Sharon Bergersen
> e-mail: sharon@cosy-place.com
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>
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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:26:30 -0500
From: Susan Barron
Subject: Knit: Knitting at Borders Books

Hi Knitlisters,
        I have some questions about knitting groups that meet at Borders
Bookstores. We have a new Borders opening here in Northeast PA in a few
weeks and there is interest in organizing a knitting group that could meet
at the store. If there are other knitlisters whose groups meet at a
Borders, I would appreciate info on how you got started.  I think it sounds
like a wonderful idea, and something our area needs, but I do need help in
the form of input from other knitters who have organized similar groups. I
know I can count on knitlisters for that sort of help. Any inquiries I've
made to the list in the past have always resulted in an abundance of
helpful responses and I hope this one will have similar results!
                                                                                        Thanks
and happy knitting!

Susan

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:31:38 +0100
From: Sharon Bergersen
Subject: Knit: KNIT "N" STYLE

Dear Knit Pals:

I have an extra copy of the above magazine that I really don't need.

I would like to offer it to a European knitter who isn't a subscriber to
this mag.

If you are interested please send me am email privately at cosy-place.com with
the heading KNIT N STYLE give away if there is more than one person
interested I will have DD draw a name from a hat.

Will wait until Thursday to do the drawing.

WIP:  Changes depending on need.  Imagine shawl from Lionbrand.

have a nice evening.
- --
Sharon Bergersen
e-mail: sharon@cosy-place.com
visit : http://www.cosy-place.com/

Finished the turtleneck sweater.
Will post it as an fo when the
ends are woven in.

Started the imagine shawl from
lionbrand and it is coming along
beautifully.

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 08:01:44 -0800
From: Lisa Souza
Subject: Knit: Home from the Hoohah!

Hello Spacepals! Well, I must say that my wonderful stash toting DH and I
had more than a bag of fun at the Contemporary Craft's Market this past long
weekend. Anyone that Rod blew by on I5 would have wondered if there were a
Michael Jackson type sitting in the passenger seat... Well, that was me,
masked up (holding the cotton fibers at bay...do not want brown lung after
all of these years!) and sewing in ends of kid vests all the way from
Lafayette to Los Angeles. I kept telling him to slow down because he would
get us there BEFORE I was done with this last minute (sigh) stuff !!!

 There was certainly a bunch of communing with Listers, including Michele
and Koigu-Mary. Fun, once again, to get to put faces to names! :o} I
demonstrated spinning most of the time, having the most wonderful, prize
winning kid mohair to tickle people with. Even the most shy person changed
before my eyes with the "ooooh" factor of this stuff. All that I can say is
that there are a lot more knitters "rediscovering" this past-time than I
have seen in a very long time. Brave souls were jumping back into knitting
and were excited to chat and take home enough yarn to "make something
wonderful". Makes me happy to see our ranks swell, Spacepals! The funny
thing is that sweater customers mainly go for cotton in Southern California
(with the exception of mohair) and yet the people who knit down there go for
fibers like wool and angora and the like! Waaaaaassssuuup?!?

 My BeeyouWIP is a simple piece from some weird and wonderful stuff. It is a
nylon mesh tube with a squiggle of cotton running through the middle. People
were fascinated with the transformation from gauzy yarn to the knitted
fabric...quite a conversation piece and will be a quick knit, now that I am
home and relatively done for the season.
 Cheers everybody!
Lisa
- --

Lisa Souza Knitwear and Dyeworks
Lafayette, CA 94549
Lisa@lisaknit.com
http://www.lisaknit.com
 

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:18:29 -0600
From: "Sara J. McGregor"
Subject: Knit: Madison WI Yarn shops

Margaret and interested visitors.....

Hi!
Madison has a very nice variety of yarn shops.  The Knitting Tree on
Monroe street,  Coyote Yarns on University Ave.,
Lakeside Fibers on Lakeside just off John Nolan Drive, and the Weaving
Workshop on East Johnson.  "Tis the Season is a holiday store that also
carries some very nice yarns.....at the very end of Midvale
Boulevard....turn into Kohl's supermarket lot.....turn right......in a
block of very old buildings.  A new store in Verona just opened.....the
Sow's Ear...on Main Street in Verona!   Happy shopping!

Sara in Platteville, WI

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:46:00 -0600
From: BJ Heeke
Subject: Re: Knit: Knit Q:  How do you prepare corn (grain) for those warmer  bags?

Sue,
I have one that has flax seed in it that was scented with Lavender. Flax seed might
work better than the corn, and wouldn't it pop if heated up too long?

BJ
- --

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 08:46:49 -0800
From: darlene hayes
Subject: Knit: online patterns

Fellow Knitters,

I'm in the process of setting up a page that will offer, among other things,
free patterns.  (This isn't an ad since there's nothing at the site yet.)
Is there a concensus as to the best way to get your hands on a hard copy of
an online pattern?  Do people typically print them directly from their
browsers?  or download them as word processing documents? or would people
like to have them emailed to them?  or something else?   Any suggestions
would be much appreciated.  Please reply off line to me at
darlenehayes@handjiveknits.com

Darlene

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:13:28 -0500
From: "Christine E"
Subject: Knit: what happend to Cast-On?

Hi all...

Is the latest issue of Cast-On out??  If so, I haven't gotten mine
yet...and I just signed up for membership in the Spring!

anyone know who I can ping on to find out what gives?

thanks!

Christine in Maryland

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:04:24 -0500 (EST)
From: mkdwbarto@webtv.net (Marilyn Barto)
Subject: Knit: Re: Knitlist Digest V2000 #4201

I am in the market for some new knitting needles (hopefully Christmas
gifts).  The rosewood solid cherry in Herrschners looked grand, but
before I ask Santa, I thought I'd pole the experts as to what they
think.  Are they worth the money, or is there another wood equally as
good?   I mainly knit  sweaters, mittens and socks  for the
grandchildren.  Thanks for your help.

Marilyn
Seneca Falls, NY
Home of Women's Rights

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:14:10 -0800
From: Christine Evelyn Squires
Subject: Knit: Yarn Stores, Madison, Wi; Winter 2000 Cast-On

Thank you to one and all for the yarn stores in Madison, Wisconsin,
and surrounding areas!  A couple of them I went to in May 1997 when
we were there, but now I have some new ones to try!

Yes, the Winter 2000 issue of Cast-on is out - I received mine about
10 days ago. For information on where your issue might be, go to
their website.

Back to swatching for my Bohus socks . . .

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:51:49 -0500
From: "Paul, Lauren"
Subject: Knit: Chemo Caps

Hi knitmeisters,
haven't posted in a while, but  I just finished 2 chemo caps (website:
www.chemocaps.com) and sent them off...I was having trouble with the yarn I
bought and then I tried Patons' Melody, very soft and fat, with just enough
stretch to hold it's shape.  It was perfect. I used a basic rollbrim pattern
from the website, and I don't think it took me more than a few
hours...instant (almost) gratification.  If I could only get my socks down
to two hours!

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 14:23:57 -0500
From: "Lisa Paullin"
Subject: Knit: Special knitting needles

Hi everyone,

I'm planning to give a knitting friend some handspun cashmere yarn for
Christmas and would like to package the yarn with some lovely knitting
needles.  She already has Brittanies as well as Noble needles (both rosewood
and ebony) and I'd really love to find some beautiful hardwood needles that
she doesn't have.  I'm wondering if anyone has any suggestions?  Ideally,
I'd like to find some unique handcrafted needles of superior quality and
beauty. :)  It would be great if I could come up with something she's never
seen before. :)

Any ideas?

Thanks,
Lisa

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 17:41:59 -0500
From: Gwen Long
Subject: Knit: Help!

Hello Knitters!

I have a small question on the sweatervest that I am making for my Dad.
Just to give you a little reference it is in Cleckheaton no. 096
"Classic Handknits in 5, 8, & 12 plys"  I am doing the 8ply jumper for
men with the vneck.  Here's my question:
Shape Armhole Directions:
Cast off 10 sts at beg of next 2 rows (117 sts)
Dec one st at each end of foll alt rows until 99 sts rem
Work 67 rows.
Then, shape shoulders.

Are the 67 including the cast off and dec rows or are they extra?  It
just seems like this is a lot of rows to be adding after the armhole
shapping, but then, this is my first sweater and I could be entirely
wrong.

Thanks,
Gwen

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Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 15:03:43 -0800
From: Shari Landes
Subject: Knit: Cleaning? Silk question

Hi all --

I'm both a crocheter and a knitter, as I'm sure a few of you readers are too.
This question
is pertinent for both, as it concerns care of yarns and threads.

A number of years ago (ok, 20) I crocheted an exquisite pineapple pattern
tablecloth
out of silk.  It was (as these things are wont to do, for various reasons) put
away for
lo about 15 years: upon opening this package recently (it was wrapped up in a
plastic
bag!) I found some awful yellowing spots throughout the piece.  It's quite
delicately made,
although the silk is holding up and is strong.

What is the best way to go about removing the yellowing?  Dry cleaning?

I've had this problem in the past with natural fibers, white cottons gathering
yellow
spots while they gather dust :-)

Thanks in advance,
Shari

http://www.onefineyarn.com

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:38:22 EST
From: Knitter124@cs.com
Subject: Knit: Results of YON vs. YO

Thanks to everyone who responsed to my question about the difference between
a YON and a YO.  I received quite a number of answers and everyone said the
same thing, "A YO by any other name is still a YO."  --  No difference.
Thanks everyone!
Cheri in PA

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 19:15:29 EST
From: NANAKNITZ@aol.com
Subject: Knit: Looking for someone

Hi ! I am Looking for Afton In N.J.. Met Her at Stitches East and want to get
in touch with her.
Thanks
RoseAnn

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:05:12 -0500
From: "Margaret H. Velard"
Subject: Knit: make your own swift

Hi All,

I am not a spinner, but picked up this month's copy of Spin Off, and lo and
behold, there was an article about making your own umbrella swift!  It's
pretty neat ... uses recycled materials, so pretty reasonable cost ...

also, there is a very timely pattern for a knitted mobius strip scarf - now
I know what to make for holiday gifts (for very special people, of
course!:))

back to the election nailbiter...

OKC:  still the Norah Gaughan from the new VK ...

Margaret in Manhattan

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Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 01:53:11 GMT
From: "LOREDIA POTTS"
Subject: Knit: Fwd: Fw: [Socknitters] Greater Texas Knit-in

>From: "Loredia Potts"
>To:
>Subject: Fw: [Socknitters] Greater Texas Knit-in
>Date: Tue. November 7, 2000
>
>
> > Hello Texas Knitters,
> >
> > A knit-in is planned for January 27 and 28, 2001, in Lampasas, Texas.
>We
>will make the Country Inn at the park our headquarters (1-800-556-2322).
>The local yarn shop has offered a room for the knitting and we hope to meet
>many new knitting friends.
> >
> > If you can join us, please let us know by January 15 and make your own
>reservatiions at the Country Inn.  This should be great fun and we can
>share
>knitting stories.
> >
> > lpotts@nwol.net
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> > For Photos, Patterns, Tips and Tricks, Classified Ads, Vendor Specials,
>Book Reviews, Projects, the Museum of Odd Socks and now Cybersocks...our
>on-line socknitting classes: visit our website http://www.socknitters.com
> >
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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:10:27 -0600
From: "Christine Ramey"
Subject: Re: Knit: Re: Charlotte Quiggle's sweater

Yes, Charlotte's Ribbing is No Yoke pattern IS a great pattern.  One that I
will certainly knit again - and I never knit a sweater twice either.  You
are not the slowest knitter, however, I think it took me 4 weeks, but I did
not work on it constantly.  Finished it up last weekend when I went to visit
DS and his girlfriend.  His girlfriend wanted to learn to knit as she is
having surgery and she needed something to do to fill in the hours when she
is recuperating.  I not only taught her to knit, but I taught her friend to
knit also!!  It was great - 3 women sitting around knitting and talking yarn
and patterns.  They both took to it like a duck to water.  :)

Looking for yarn for another RINY sweater,

Tina in Houston where we are expecting more rain tonite
 

- -----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Snyder
To: knitlist@kniton.com
Date: Tuesday, November 07, 2000 7:18 AM
Subject: Knit: Re: Charlotte Quiggle's sweater
 

>Dear Knitsibs:
>
>My, Charlotte Quiggle's pattern is popular!  Lots of us seem to be knitting
>it!
>

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Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:39:06 -0800
From: "Maggie Burns"
Subject: Knit: hat design question

This just occurred to me and I can't figure out how to do it!  How would you
knit one of those jester hats, like