4224

Knitlist Digest Thursday, November 23 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 4224

In this issue of the KnitList Digest:

Knit: is the Winter 00/01 FCEK out to subscribers? ["Christine E" <thepan]
Knit: yarn search for Sirdar Fair Isle Effect ["Ilze+Aldis" <abolins@reac]
Knit: Ridge fron picked up dropped stitch? [Marjess Leighton <marjess@wor]
Knit: D/V II, FO, Handwarmers       ["Darcy Williams" <dawill@mail.wm.edu>]
Knit: cables?                             [Martha <mskala@tampabay.rr.com>]
Knit: Simple Mohair Shawl and free classes at Countrywool [Claudia Krisni]
Knit: DC yarn shgops                                      [RossBee@aol.com]
Knit: Re: Knitlist: shops in DC-rebuttal                  [LILMCC@aol.com]
Knit: LYS in DC               ["Luanne O'Loughlin" <LuanneO@earthlink.net>]
Knit: Thanks for advice                   [Wendy Levy <wlevy@richmond.edu>]
Knit: new webpage                    [Peggy Wileaver <pwileaver@yahoo.com>]
Knit: socks                               [mae m payne <mmpayne4@juno.com>]
Knit: Pattern for Joan's 2-strand WE socks ["mean mom" <meanmomof4@hotmai]
Knit: airport knitting             [Alison Hyde <handspinner@artlover.com>]
Re: Knit: yarn search for Sirdar Fair Isle Effect [Brenda <clough@erols.c]
[none]                                   ["listmoms" <listmoms@kniton.com>]
Knit: Using Regia yarn odd ends              [Flor <mafurla@matrix.com.br>]
Knit: Nice toolbag (knitting bag) on SALE! ["Teknia" <Teknia@mediaone.ne]
Knit: Great charity for knitters                        [cquinn@ca.ibm.com]
Knit: teaching adults to knit                        [mummy22@ivillage.com]
Re: Knit: Using Regia yarn odd ends          [Flor <mafurla@matrix.com.br>]
Knit: teaching adults to knit                        [mummy22@ivillage.com]
Knit: KNIT: penguins: useful things to do [Erika Buky <erikab@socrates.Be]
Knit: Mary Beasley                                [TheMaurerFamily@aol.com]
Re: Knit: KNIT: penguins: useful things to do [Sarah and Jamie <brink909@]
Knit: BE FOREWARNED           [Christine Evelyn Squires <ces@teleport.com>]
Knit: angel bear ornament pattern on net                [McRuggles@aol.com]
Knit: Help, please                       ["listmoms" <listmoms@kniton.com>]
Knit: Happy Birthday                   ["Mary Hunt" <maryhunt@stny.rr.com>]
Knit: LYS in Washington, DC area         [Renee Levitz <rlevitz@erols.com>]
Knit: LYS in Washington, DC area   ["Joan Keith" <joankeith@earthlink.net>]
Knit: KIP                           [Kerry Edwards <kedwards@trump.net.au>]
Knit: Blue Peter Pattern Search, Thunderbird Sweater Woe, I-cord Edging on Mitten Cuffs
["Helen Suter" <hlsuter]

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:07:17 -0500
From: "Christine E" <thepanda@erols.com>
Subject: Knit: is the Winter 00/01 FCEK out to subscribers?

hi...

Like I need YET another knitting magazine coming in...:)...when I SHOULD
be working on my graduate school homework!

Does anyone know if the FCEK for Winter 00/01 is out yet?? I have a
subscription,
yet the only one I've gotten so far is the Fall issue...

Thanks!

Christine in sunny, but COLD Maryland

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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:16:50 -0500
From: "Ilze+Aldis" <abolins@reach.net>
Subject: Knit: yarn search for Sirdar Fair Isle Effect

Hi out there - I just got some balls of the above yarn and absolutely love
how it's turning out. I think the yarn is discontinued, but, here goes...
I'm looking for 1 or 2 balls of a pastel grey/purple/yelow colour, ballband
says 060504 017. Don't know which is the colour, but the lot number is
optional, as I consider myself lucky to get anything. Will buy or trade -
retailers, please feel free to respond. Doesn't it figure that the stuff
that catches my fancy is usually discontinued, or will be right after I grow
to like it.

Christmas knitting - every year I knit the kids' teachers mittens - as a
change of pace I think I'm gonna knit headbands. They are quite handy for
yard duty, and hopefully will knit up quicker. I've used several patterns
for myself and the kids, so I'll let them choose for their teachers. As long
as I can do it in chunky....

Anyone else knit for teachers presents? Any teachers out there with
suggestions/comments? I have up till now done facecloths for yearend gifts
(with nice soap, so they know what it's for ).
Ilze in really blustery, snow-deprived southern Ontario (nowhere near
Buffalo :) )

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:29:55 -0500
From: Marjess Leighton <marjess@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Knit: Ridge fron picked up dropped stitch?

I'm knitting a sweater with Takhi davos - a thick/thin wool yarn - and have
a question that someone else may be able to answer.

After armhole decreases, I was to have 70 stitches. When I got to the neck
decreases, I discovered I had 69 stitches, and decided that I had mistakenly
knit 2 together where the very thin stitches had been. I finished the front
and as I folded it to put it away while knitting the sleeves, I just
glimpsed what looked like a hole. Well, about 3 inches from the hem, I found
a little stitch waving in the breeze. Oy. There was my 70th stitch. I
decided to hook it up, which was not easy, but doable. it was close enough
to the middle that it became the missing stitch on the holder for the front
neck.

All's well? Not exactly. I have a visible ridge in the knitting where the
fabric is tauter from the stitch picked up most of the length of the front.
I'm concerned that this won't "relax" and disappear. Now I wonder if I
should have just secured the stitch where I found it, so maybe I should just
drop it back down?

Any thoughts? Should I try blocking, steaming a little extra in that area?

Thanks.

Marjess

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:36:01 -0500
From: "Darcy Williams" <dawill@mail.wm.edu>
Subject: Knit: D/V II, FO, Handwarmers

~~~Diagonal/Vertical II~~~
I just looked at the website for this, and I think it's AWESOME. I love
clever designs. I can't wait to make one. I've always wanted a cardi. Has
anyone made this with substituted yarns? Which did you use?

~~~FO~~~
Finished the bead knitted pendant bag from IK 97 in navy variegated beads.
It's gorgeous and was SO easy to knit! I'm going to give this one to my
best friend who admired it, and make myself another one using ruby beads
(they've been screaming at me since I first saw them in the store).

~~~WIP~~~
A quickie garter scarf on sz 13 needles, using Lionbrand Homespun in a
lovely burgandy, navy, hunter colorway. It's for my friend's 5yo son who is
in love with me. He's so cute--his mom asked him if I was his girlfriend,
and he blushed and buried his head. I remember having crushes on my mom's
friends when I was little, but this is my first time on the adult end. As
soon as it's done I think I'll go back to supertiny needles (0000) and knit
myself a beaded bag.

~~~Handwarmers~~~
My hands are always very cold in the winter (bad circulation). I'm thinking
of knitting some fingerless gloves out of cashmere and silk. I figure that
would be the warmest and lightest weight blend outside of qiviut. I've
promised not to buy any more yarn, but Mom feels like she needs to buy me a
present for Hannukah (she used teacher points to get me the hardbound Harry
Potter series). Sooooo maybe I could get some yarn for these gloves. Does
anyone have *any* idea how many yards it might take? I'm hoping to do this
in fingering or lacewt, but any approximations would help. I'm constantly
amazed at the amount of yarn needed for things (socks only being 300 yds
still baffles me). TIA

Knit On...

Darcy in VA--who is about to drive up to my parents' house with the dog (my
parents want to see their "granddaughter") 3 hours, 65lb excited 1yo
dog--pray for me =o)

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:47:18 -0500
From: Martha <mskala@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Knit: cables?

Hi All from chilly FL,
I received my Patternworks Fall Preview in the mail and on page 10 was
the most gorgeous pullover. Taken from Berroco's New Basics, it has
raglan sleeves with a cable on each edge. How can one do the decreases
and still get such a lovely cable??
Please reply privately,
Thanks,
Martha

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:59:09 -0500
From: Claudia Krisniski <Countrywool@berk.com>
Subject: Knit: Simple Mohair Shawl and free classes at Countrywool

Good morning everyone from CHILLY New York State! The bunnies are pretty fluffy
this morning out in the barns.... We didn't get snow here in eastern NY, but I
send my condolences to those who are shoveling out in western NY. Great knitting
weather, though.

I have been working on the simplest triangle shawl seeing how far 2 - 50 gram
balls of bulky mohair will take me....Gosh, I got a very decent garter stitch
shawl: (Cast on 1 st...*inc, knit across* each row till 6 yards are left and
then bind off) on size 13 needles...5 foot wingspan...3 feet deep.I am
IMPRESSED! This is wonderful mindless knitting. It looks great thrown over the
back of my sofa and will be perfect to wrap around my shoulders while
knitting/TV watching. I think I will make another for my MIL for Christmas.

I've also been working on stuffed mittens using 2 strands of Brown Sheep Fantasy
Lace and 4 strands of rainbow pencil roving. I have a small and medium size
worked out...now onto the large size. This will be my project once the TURKEY
DAY folks have come, eaten and left.

Just a reminder to folks who are traveling to NY State for the Thanksgiving
holiday and may be able to stop in..I am running my annual Open House at
Countrywool with 3 days of free classes.....Angora Rabbit Care; Drop Spindle
Spinning; and Learn To Knit for Warm Up America!. Do come and munch on cookies
and enjoy a cup of tea with us. Details are here:
http://countrywool.hypermart.net/classes.htm

Claudia knitting, spinning and brushing bunnies in New York's Hudson Valley
http://www.countrywool.com/
Home of WIZARDS SOCKS, HOUSE ELF SOCKS patterns and kits

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:54:43 EST
From: RossBee@aol.com
Subject: Knit: DC yarn shgops

In a message dated 11/22/00 6:13:12 AM Eastern Standard Time,
BRAGDPA@cs.com writes:

<< There is also Aylins Woolgatherer, at
Dupont Circle. That one is right in town and reachable by Metro. >>

There used to be a shop called The Woolgatherer at Dupont Circle. Sadly,
this has been gone for at least three years, replaced by a shoe store.

There is another shop called Aylins Woogatherer in the Virginia suburbs --
don't know if they are/were related. Aylins is open and is a nice shop as
well.

In the Maryland suburbs, Yarns International and Needlework Attic are both
worth seeing.

Ross in DC
rossbee@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:00:01 EST
From: LILMCC@aol.com
Subject: Knit: Re: Knitlist: shops in DC-rebuttal

In a message dated 11/22/2000 6:13:55 AM Eastern Standard Time,
owner-knitlist-digest@kniton.com writes:

<< Yarns Int'l is also in Bethesda, but it requires a metro and
a bus ride. Also, the people there were really rude to me (ageism? racism?).
There are other stores, but again, I didn't have a car...

Unlike Irene, I've found Yarns International to be a store filled with
wonderful yarn and very helpful people. The two owners are sweet, sweet
people and the women that work there, especially on the weekend are nice and
knowledgeable. Ageism? The clerks are in their 30's and the owners probably
in their 50's. That covers a few decades. Racism? Several "races" are
represented on their staff. Perhaps dueling hormones was taking place on the
day you shopped......my mother always blamed our spats on synchronized menses
<bg>. Irene, please try the shop again, I'm certain it was just a bad day.

Marie
Funny Farm

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:46:46 -0500
From: "Luanne O'Loughlin" <LuanneO@earthlink.net>
Subject: Knit: LYS in DC

Aylins is in Falls Church, just a bit inside the beltway. Springwater Fiber
Workshop in Alexandria can be fun.

Outside the beltway, I'm particularly fond of Uniquities in Vienna and Old
Town Needlecrafts in Manassas. I think that's a bit of a drive but well
worth it.

Be sure to call before you go for directions and store hours. I think
Uniquities might be closed on Mondays.

Luanne

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:52:41 -0500
From: Wendy Levy <wlevy@richmond.edu>
Subject: Knit: Thanks for advice

A big thanks to all who took the trouble to write with advice re.
purchasing a full set of birch double points. I have now placed my order
and have bookmarked all the other sources with the intention of buying from
them in the future.

Wendy

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Admin. Assistant
Department of English
University of Richmond
VA 23173
(804)289-8287
mailto:wlevy@richmond.edu

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:16:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Peggy Wileaver <pwileaver@yahoo.com>
Subject: Knit: new webpage

This is my first stab at a webpage so bear with me. Welcome any feedback.

www.oocities.org/pwileaver

Thanks
Have a Happy Thanksgiving!

Peggy
Champaign, IL

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:55:40 -0800
From: mae m payne <mmpayne4@juno.com>
Subject: Knit: socks

        I don't know if anyone gets the Early Winters catalog in the mail. This
time of year we're innundated with catalogs. This one however is for
winter sports wear and accessories. They've got 3 different wool
Christmas stockings made in Nepal. They are fantastic and a pair of them
would make ideal Birkinstock socks for college students...or even moms.
Has anyone seen them?   I'm not expert enough to make up my own pattern
but...I don't think, but if anyone knows of a way to get their hands on a
pattern...similar...I've certainly got the wool to use in all the
colors....I'd love to know where it is.   I'm sure these stockings will
show up in other catalogs.   I can't imagine Early Winters is the only
one to carry them.   m payne

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:24:24
From: "mean mom" <meanmomof4@hotmail.com>
Subject: Knit: Pattern for Joan's 2-strand WE socks

Dear Knitlisters,

Well, I have been busy knitting the 2-strand WE socks, but alas, I have lost
the pattern. I have looked high and low and am wondering if it fell out of
my bag while travelling. And, for the life of me, I can't find the website
where that pattern is listed. Could some kind soul help me out? After all,
I will actually be able to knit while on the road tomorrow. Maybe I could
even get some socks finished.

Thank you to all of you.
Tina, definitely, the meanest mom in the world for making my children wear
coats today!
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 13:30:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Alison Hyde <handspinner@artlover.com>
Subject: Knit: airport knitting

My college freshman daughter called us frantically from the airport in Salt
Lake City last night to say she'd left her driver's license at her dorm and
they wouldn't let her on the plane to come home. The plane was taking off
in an hour, and it was a 75 minute drive from her dorm room to the airport,
even if we'd been able to find someone who could/would drive it up. Help!
She gave us a number of someone at the airline desk, and we frantically
faxed a copy of her social security card, her birth certificate, and her
high school senior photo to Delta. Never heard back. Not from her, not from
Delta, and there was no response at the number she'd called us from. We
crossed our fingers and left for San Francisco Airport at ten p.m., hoping
she was on that plane.

My latest portable project is a shawl in white laceweight kid mohair in BW's
Dayflowers lace pattern. We left for the airport early so as to be
absolutely sure we were there when the plane landed; after all, the news
says that 20 1/2 million Americans are flying this week. Isn't that
something like one out of every 14 of us or so? Wow. Of course the plane
was delayed, so I had a goodly amount of time to work on that shawl to try
to calm my nerves. Our teenagers at home were on strict orders to go to
bed, but wake up if the phone rang, answer it, and relay any messages.
Thank goodness for cell phones or we would never have gotten that first
frantic "Help!" till hours later.

That shawl was an eye magnet. I noticed a fair number of people glancing at
it, women more openly then men. One woman finally said, "It looks like
you're knitting a cloud." I pictured the planes flying through it with a
smile, and replied, "It FEELS like I'm knitting a cloud!" More than I would
have admitted; the lighting was not great, I was tired at that hour, and a
few times I'd knitted fluff instead of a stitch and found on the next row I
had to go hunting for the missing stitch. But it wasn't a big deal, the
shawl is gorgeous and it feels heavenly. Which I really needed at that
particular moment.

Of course Jennie stepped off the plane. Late enough in the crowd to add
just one little last twist in our stomachs, but she did. Thank goodness!
And a happy Thanksgiving to all on this list who celebrate it. May your
loved ones be with you and love you.

- --Alison Hyde, handspinner@artlover.com

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:04:50 -0500
From: Brenda <clough@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Knit: yarn search for Sirdar Fair Isle Effect

Ilze+Aldis wrote:

> Christmas knitting - every year I knit the kids' teachers mittens - as a
> change of pace I think I'm gonna knit headbands. They are quite handy for
> yard duty, and hopefully will knit up quicker. I've used several patterns
> for myself and the kids, so I'll let them choose for their teachers. As long
> as I can do it in chunky....
>
> Anyone else knit for teachers presents? Any teachers out there with
> suggestions/comments? I have up till now done facecloths for yearend gifts
> (with nice soap, so they know what it's for ).

For some years now I've been knitting my kids' teachers hats. There are a lot
of keen hat patterns out there!

Brenda

- --
- ---------
Brenda W. Clough, author of DOORS OF DEATH AND LIFE
From Tor Books in May 2000
http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda/

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:19:00 -0500
From: "listmoms" <listmoms@kniton.com>
Subject: [none]

Please respond to her individually, 4someone@home.com

Mary, listmom

- ----- Original Message -----
From: jim & lee
To: listmoms
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: bear sweater

a pattern for a stuffed bear (child's toy) to match the
child's sweater pattern.
the web site listed for acquiring the pattern was:
www.coatspatons.com however, i was unable to get the pattern there.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: listmoms
To: jim & lee
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: bear sweater

What kind of pattern?

- ----- Original Message -----
From: jim & lee
To: listmoms@kniton.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 11:28 AM
Subject: bear sweater

on a pattern recently purchased, for a child's sweater, there is a bear
sweater pattern available. i went to the web site but am unsuccessful in
obtaining it. can you help???

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:23:52 -0200
From: Flor <mafurla@matrix.com.br>
Subject: Knit: Using Regia yarn odd ends

Hello all,

I think all of us who knit socks with those colorful Regia Ringel yarns
finish a pair having two small amounts of odd ends. One 50g/ball is enough
for a biiiig man foot. What to do with those beautiful ends?

I'd already knit a pair of baby booties. The next batch was from Ringel
Jacquard in color Inka. Well, Inca immediately suggests a chullo hat. Using
a solid bright red I worked on that idea. It didn't remain a scrap. :)

Result at

http://flor.freeservers/baby.htm

I did the earflap decreases between the st st and the four garter sts from
edges. Decreasing slowly for a few rows and then abruptly at end gives to
the flap an anatomical round shape perfect to cover the ears. Didn't put
any strings 'cause I think babies could pull them or even chew the tassels
or ponpons. Then, only a rebeld tassel on top. The llama was worked in
duplicate sts.

Hope you appreciate the suggestion. Ah, I knit it top down.

Hugs,

Flor

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 03:46:59 -0500
From: "Teknia" <Teknia@mediaone.net>
Subject: Knit: Nice toolbag (knitting bag) on SALE!

SALE: You'll have to hurry... found this toolbag for only $5 plus
shipping. Reg. $59.95. I just ordered one for hubby, one for me for my
knitting and two more for gifts for Christmas! Shipping came out to $9.90
for the four of them.
http://store.talkcity.com/kore/catalog/Gifts_&_Seasonal_Items/Gifts/Gifts_fo
r_Him/TCPTB/product.html

no affiliation...

OKC: a cotton cardi for 2yo dd, *finally* sewing my Mr. Bean Bear
together... thankx to lesa!!

sue in NH

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:46:06 -0500
From: cquinn@ca.ibm.com
Subject: Knit: Great charity for knitters

I just heard about the Heifer Project International, which allows people to
sponsor with donations the distribution of animals to needy people around
the world. There is a variety of animals available, but knitters will of
course want to choose sheep.

When you sponsor a gift of a sheep ($120) or a share of one ($10), a family
gets a sheep to raise for wool and eventually for food. They are taught
how to raise the sheep in a way that sustains the land for further use.

I think a donation in someone's name would be a nice gift.

Carla Quinn
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . .

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Date: 22 Nov 2000 12:49:06 -0800
From: mummy22@ivillage.com
Subject: Knit: teaching adults to knit

Hi everyone!

Here I am with yet another question! I am currently teaching some women at the drop-in centre
where we take all our children. So far we've had one 'class' where I've shown them how to do
garter stitch, a yarn over and knit together and provided them with the materials to make the
basic dishcloth. I made the needles from dowels and beads as was suggested by another lister
some time ago.

My next step is to show them how to purl and some of the standard tools of knitting, and get
them started on a simple project of their own.

I'd like some opinions on just what to teach them next? Should I let them pick out a pattern
and just help them along with it, or is there something else I should show them. They are
almost all beginners, and language may be a small barrier. I'm not sure I should get them into
anything too fancy, but I do believe that if they really want to make something, then they will
learn to do it.

My second question is regarding a simple sweater pattern that some of them could start with.
Two requirements; it should be free (money is an issue here with most of these women) and it
should have a picture as these are real beginners. Anything like that out there? It could be
either a jumper or a cardigan.

TIA

Kathleen in Toronto

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:10:49 -0200
From: Flor <mafurla@matrix.com.br>
Subject: Re: Knit: Using Regia yarn odd ends

Hello,

At 18:23 22/11/00 -0200, *I* wrote:
>
>
>Result at ......

Correcting the url:

http://flor.freeservers.com/baby.htm

Excuse me the inconvenience.

Hugs,

Flor

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Date: 22 Nov 2000 13:18:29 -0800
From: mummy22@ivillage.com
Subject: Knit: teaching adults to knit

Hi everyone!

My next step is to show them how to purl and some of the standard tools of knitting, and get
them started on a simple project of their own.

TIA

Kathleen in Toronto

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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:31:22 +1300
From: Erika Buky <erikab@socrates.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Knit: KNIT: penguins: useful things to do

>I am really sick of newspapers and magazines spreading this crap, flame
>away if you want. I really don't care.
>
>Sarah, fed up with the US press being too lazy to research their stories in
>Australia

OKC: I've got a knitting design for a yellow-eyed penguin motif . . .
contact me offlist.

SEMI-RANT: Living in another penguin-blessed part of the world, I
share Sarah's exasperation with do-gooders who won't let this story
die, but I must point out that

(a) some of the misinformation recently posted here was sent in from
Australia, not the US, and

(b) the Phillips Island Nature Park website (penguins.org.au) is one
of the most appallingly designed sites I've ever seen. It's
impossible to find accurate or up-to-date information on it, so it's
not surprising that people are confused.

If you want to knit sweaters for charity, send them to Children in
Common. But if you're really interested in doing something for
penguins, you could help with preventing oil spills and preserving
habitat by donating an equivalent portion of your yarn budget to an
organization like Greenpeace http://www.greenpeace.org
the Marine Conservation Biology Institute http://mcbi.org
or the Yellow-Eyed Penguin Trust http://www.deepsouth.co.nz/yepnz/

(Of course there are many, many conservation organizations--find your
own if you don't like these.)

That last is a blatantly local plug: the yellow-eyed penguin is much
more severely endangered than the little blue penguin (the Phillips
Island variety). There are about 3,000 left, some of which live near
my house. It's a very attractive and deeply stupid bird whose eggs
are easy prey for ferrets, rats, and "friendly, well-trained" dogs.

Erika
Dunedin, NZ
where the penguins are currently nesting

- --

mailto:erikab@socrates.berkeley.edu

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:58:07 EST
From: TheMaurerFamily@aol.com
Subject: Knit: Mary Beasley

Sorry, knitters, for the intrusion.

Mary Beasley of Richmond, Va., please contact me at TheMaurerFamily@aol.com.

I do not have your email address, but I received your generous package, and I
have more information for you related to what you requested of me earlier
(re: the yarn shop).

Again, sorry for the intrusion. Back to turkey dinners, one and all.

Mary, please contact me!

Susan Maurer

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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 09:01:13 +1100
From: Sarah and Jamie <brink909@austarnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Knit: KNIT: penguins: useful things to do

At 10:31 AM 11/23/00 +1300, Erika Buky wrote:

>OKC: I've got a knitting design for a yellow-eyed penguin motif . . .
>contact me offlist.

Can I have a copy for the knitlist gifts 2000?

>(b) the Phillips Island Nature Park website (penguins.org.au) is one of
>the most appallingly designed sites I've ever seen. It's impossible to
>find accurate or up-to-date information on it, so it's not surprising that
>people are confused.

I sooooooooooo agree with you! In fact, I asked them for a public statement
to put on my website yesterday & told them (nicley <G>) that this
particular piece of information scrolls off their site too quickly for
people to use it. Even when it was there it was really hard to find. But
now it's not there any more. At least I could no longer find it...

Sarah

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 14:34:23 -0800
From: Christine Evelyn Squires <ces@teleport.com>
Subject: Knit: BE FOREWARNED

Yesterday, Nov. 21, I received a package of yarn that had been mailed in
Madison, Wisconsin
Nov. 15. I live in Portland, Oregon. WEll, you say, 6 days isn't bad,
considering there was a
Sunday in there.

Wrong! You see, the package had been mailed Nov. 15 UPS 2nd DAY AIR!

So I should have received it Nov. 17, not the 21st.

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:28:34 EST
From: McRuggles@aol.com
Subject: Knit: angel bear ornament pattern on net

Hi guys,
I'm taking a break from writing up (groan) the history of the America's Cup
yacht race and, instead, cleaning out files and came upon this old link to an
angel/bear tree ornament.

Admittedly it's not everyone's taste, but it is kind of cute and one can just
make the bear part. Anyway, thought I'd pass on seasonal free pattern.

<A HREF="http://members.aol.com/SAG55/angelbear.html">ANGEL BEAR ORNAMENT</A>

http://members.aol.com/SAG55/angelbear.html

Non-Knit: Delete at will:
As listmom to the Florida-based Hurricane Knitters, and living at ground zero
for Election 2000 insanity, let me assure all that, despite rumors to the
contrary,
there is NOT (yet) a filed lawsuit to postpone the final ballot count for 9
months to give the pregnant chads time to give birth.

It is however true that a moron down here has tried to sue the Florida
Lottery because, having not won with the number he selected, he did,
nonetheless, "intend" to (by sheer coincidence) vote the number which did in
fact (by sheerest coincidence) win the Lottery. If it succeeds, a friend
wants his old SAT scores recalibrated as he'd intended to have all correct
answers....

Cheers,
Catherine

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:04:26 -0500
From: "listmoms" <listmoms@kniton.com>
Subject: Knit: Help, please

Anyone know if AOL 6.0 can send a message in plain text? How? Please reply
to me, not the list. I'm trying to help someone.

Mary

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 19:23:31 -0500
From: "Mary Hunt" <maryhunt@stny.rr.com>
Subject: Knit: Happy Birthday

Happy Birthday November 25 to Sharon
mailto:Sp2791@aol.com

Mary
maryhunt@stny.rr.com

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 22:25:45 -0500
From: Renee Levitz <rlevitz@erols.com>
Subject: Knit: LYS in Washington, DC area

Hi Melba,
    I have been living in the DC area for over 27 years and frequented
many of the LYS. I have never felt comfortable at Woolly Knits in
McLean and in fact because of the less than warm welcome on more than
three occasions I avoid going there if I possibly can. I believe that
because of the rather snobbish attitude projected that LYS has lost many
thousands of dollars in revenue from me alone.
    I have gone to Aylin's on many occasions and have found that shop
quite nice for the most part. My favorite shop and the one I have gone
to regularly for over 25 years is The Yarn Barn which is now located in
Burke, VA which is where I live. Up until two and a half years ago the
shop was located in the Kings Park Shopping Center in West Springfield.
It is now located diagonally across from the Burke Post Office on Burke
Road.
    It is necessary for the most part to have a car in the DC suburban
area, especially Northern Virginia. The best way to reach The Yarn Barn
is to take the beltway to Braddock Road going West. About 5 traffic
lights down bear left at the light at Burke Lake Road. After passing
Lake Braddock High School on your right, make a left at the third
traffic light onto Burke Road. The post office will be on your
immediate right. At the next corner on the left in a small shopping
strip is The Yarn Barn. Penny Sanford is the owner and is one of the
nicest people I know. The shop's hours are 10 AM to 6 PM Monday,
Tuesday, and Friday. On Wednesdays and Thursdays the shop is open until
8 PM and on Saturdays the shop has workshop from 8 AM to 10 AM before
regular hours. All are welcome. I hope you can find a way to get
there.
    Trying to knit in Burke, VA while her new house is being
finished---Renée Levitz

PS Thanks, Pauline--I received my calendar and it's really nice to see
some of the faces that go with the names I see on the list all the
time. I will enjoy it even more when I can put up in a prominent
position in my new "yarn room" in the new house we have going up. I am
already researching how to get my "yarn" case built along one whole wall
in this room.

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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:25:01 -0500
From: "Joan Keith" <joankeith@earthlink.net>
Subject: Knit: LYS in Washington, DC area

I have watched this thread with interest. I've lived in the DC area for 13
years, and I've seen yarn shops come and go. I've been in all of the yarn
shops that have been mentioned, and I have liked them, by and large.

My favorite yarn shop has yet to be mentioned. It isn't exactly in the DC
area, but it is a reasonable drive away. The store is called Hunt Country
Yarn, and it is in Middleburg, VA. The shop has an extensive selection, and
the owner is very helpful. He is a former computer person from CA. He
knits, but his wife does not.

The web page is http://www.skeins.com/. I have absolutely no affiliation
with the shop or the owner. I just like the shop, and knitting friends have
been impressed with it too.

Knitting content - I'm reading the Schultz modular knitting books in
English, and planning my next project.

Joan Keith
joankeith@earthlink.net

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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:24:14
From: Kerry Edwards <kedwards@trump.net.au>
Subject: Knit: KIP

Hello friends

Here is a little item re Knitting in Public I warmed to:

http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_105075.html?nav_src=newsIndexHeadline

Housing plan opponents 'insulted' by knitting councillor

A councillor has angered opponents of a housing plan by knitting a bobble
hat during a council debate on the issue.

Residents of Corsham,Wiltshire, have accused the deputy leader of North
Wiltshire District Council Ruth Coleman of being disrespectful for knitting
the hat for her son during an important meeting.

The Liberal Democrat member was heckled by the campaign group, battling
against plans to build a housing estate in Corsham, when they spotted her
knitting in the chamber in Chippenham.

Campaigner Trish Bowen-Jones said: "I was really shocked when I saw what she
was doing. We all felt it was an insult, not only to the chamber but also to
the people who were there.

"I've run a business and have had meetings and if anyone had brought out
knitting or sewing it would have shown that they were not concentrating on
the job in hand.

"I knit myself, so I have nothing against knitting, but there is a time and
place for it."

Ms Coleman, who voted for the plans along with the majority of the council,
has defended her actions claiming that knitting helps her concentrate.

The member has knitted for many years at meetings - even when she was the
leader of the Lib Dem-run authority.

She said: "I think political meetings can be quite stressful and I find
knitting very relaxing. It keeps me calm and helps me to concentrate.

"If the chairman had asked me to stop I would have done but I have been
doing it on and off for years.

"If people had listened to what I was saying during the meeting it would have
been very clear that I was paying attention."

Ms Coleman said that a Somerset council official also knits during meetings.
A spokeswoman for North Wiltshire District Council said: "There is
certainly nothing in standing orders that precludes somebody from knitting.

"Members' behaviour in the chamber is a matter for the chairman and we would
only expect the chairman to act on a matter where behaviour is unacceptable
or the conduct of the members is disorderly.

"Knitting is not deemed as either of those."

Though you'd like it.

Kerry in Hobart
who's still looking for the right pattern.
- --------------------------------------------------------------------
David Edwards                           email: dedwards@trump.net.au
30 Queen Street                        postal: GPO Box 431E
Sandy Bay 7005                                 TAS 7001 Australia
Tasmania                                phone: (61 3) 6223 6703
Australia                                 fax: (61 3) 6223 2079

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Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 10:39:46 -0000
From: "Helen Suter" <hlsuter@compuserve.com>
Subject: Knit: Blue Peter Pattern Search, Thunderbird Sweater Woe, I-cord Edging on Mitten
Cuffs

Hi knitters

Blue Peter Pattern Search

I'm looking for a chart/pattern for a Blue Peter Sweater for my son. I know
that I've seen some c. 1960-1970 (?) but cannot remember where/when I saw
them and if they were for sale, trade, etc. If anyone has a pattern that
they would like to sell, or swap, I'd be grateful.

Blue Peter is an UK educational TV show for children. The symbol/motif is a
square-rigged sailing vessel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bluepeter/ for those that are interested.

Thunderbird Sweater Woe

Well, I ploughed on and made great progress with this sweater and just about
had it finished when I decided to check the sizing. For the record, I had
gauge, so I guessed I'd get the size specified - hm, what a large size
sweater, a bit too much give for my liking. I've hit the frog pond with a
big splash and am now busily reworking this sweater in a smaller size. This
means I should be able to knit it faster the second time - right? Coz its
got to be ready by next Saturday (Dec 2)!

I-cord Edging on Mitten Cuffs

Paging through an old Vogue (Fall '93 International Edition) I came across
an i-cord article by Elizabeth Zimmermann with Meg Swansen. It describes
using i-cord to cast on for a mitten cuff. This looks so neat that I'm
going to file this in the things I've just got to do to see the result
folder.

Happy knitting

Helen - busily clicking - in Windsor, England

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