Knitlist Digest     Saturday, November 25 2000     Volume 2000 : Number 4227
 
 

In this issue of the KnitList Digest:

  Knit: Ribbing question                                 [Haussmannp@aol.com]
  Re: Knit: Ribbing question                              [TamesonOB@aol.com]
  Knit: Last Minute Gifties; hideous knitting; frog ponds; thankfuls  ["Hele]
  Knit: Teacher gifts-Recess necessaries     ["spider" <spider@computer.net>]
  Re: Knit: Last Minute Gifties                   [Brenda <clough@erols.com>]
  Knit: Knit - LYS visit             ["Sue Hulbert" <shulbert@ix.netcom.com>]
  Knit: Scratchiness in wool  ["lottie jones florist ltd." <andjaree@reach.n]
  Knit: Recognition of the Givers on the list (Long, delete at will)  ["Pat"]
  Knit: Looking for some yarn                       ["cat" <cat@postnet.com>]
  Knit: Intro                         ["Kamala Kropinak" <kaboukie@swcp.com>]
  Knit: Men's vest                               [Joan <joanmac@pacbell.net>]
  Knit: OK, I give up. Message from parade@penguins.org.au  [Sarah and Jamie]
  Knit: ADMIN: momstuff, posting for Kat, archives  [Ruth Schooley <twisteds]
  Knit: Re: Knitlist Digest V2000 #4226  [Barbara A Vaccaro <vaccarotrumpet@]
  Re: Knit: Hems, et al.                     [sydow <sydow@optushome.com.au>]
  Knit: Re: non-dainty scarves                            [McRuggles@aol.com]
  Knit: Thanksgiving weekend          ["Joan Hamer" <jlhknits@earthlink.net>]
  Knit: Gifts/Cats/Schtuff                                [ZANDRE35T@aol.com]
  Knit: Dalmatian spots & dent-de-chat hem & st name  [Flor <mafurla@matrix.]
  Knit: Bobbins for colour knitting intarsia  ["Artcom" <jarthur@odyssey.on.]

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:21:58 EST
From: Haussmannp@aol.com
Subject: Knit: Ribbing question

Dear Knitlisters,

I am coming out of major lurkdom to ask a question.  I want to knit a simple
raglan sweater for my daughter.  I don't want the bottom ribbing to pull in.
Can someone tell me the guideline for doing so.  For example, if the front of
the sweater is 100 stitches in stockinette on size five needles, what
adjustments (e.g., in number of stitches, needle sizes) should I make in
order to achieve the "straight-down" effect in the bottom ribbing?

Although I am not an overt lister, I am a regular reader and will summarize
responses.  Thanks for any help.

Peg in NW Phila suburbs

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:09:27 EST
From: TamesonOB@aol.com
Subject: Re: Knit: Ribbing question

It has been my experience that if you keep your needles the same size for
both the ribbing and the SS the rib won't pull in. However, sometimes it will
flip up, and also your stitches in the rib will look twice as big, so you may
want to size down just a tad, like only 1 size as compared with the standard
2-3 size differential. Alternatively, you could omit the ribbing altogether,
and do a simple "hem" (don't know the technical term for it but you knit, say
1", then pick up the cast on row and knit it together with the current row so
you don't have to sew it up later). I do this often on hats. It's a nice
finish (or more accurately, beginning) and it lies flat. You could also do a
garter stitch edging rather than ribbing, that would give a similar feel, and
again it looks nice and lies flat.
Good luck with whatever you choose, and I hope your DD likes the final result.
Tameson

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 08:50:01 -0600
From: "Helen Pope" <NeedleDncr@mediaone.net>
Subject: Knit: Last Minute Gifties; hideous knitting; frog ponds; thankfuls

Hey knitbuds!

First, I've got to respond to Jennifer Tocker's query seeking last minute
gift ideas...
1) for fairly fast knitters:  the December "pattern" in EZ's Knitters
Almanac is a "wishbone" sweater that only works at 2 1/2 sts to the inch.

2) sticking with larger gauges, make chunky slipper socks:  they go much
faster at 5 sts/in than they do at 9!

3) Seaman's scarves still work when you use bigger yarns too -- though
they're not as elegant, they are still warm, functional, and attractive.
(see hideous knitting below).

4) Hats, and ear warming bands go swiftly, even when you're NOT doing the
chunky thing, and hand painted or variegated yarn can do the patterning for
you.

5) Mittens are faster than socks (who knows why?)

6) Those infamous and wonderous hand knit wash/dish cloths... still go
quickly, still feel great...

(hmmm... I'm thinking I'd better TRY some of these!)

Hideous Knitting:

Well, it's a go.  I've figured out how to force this frightening combination
of yarns into a scarf, and told the woman that it will cost her between
$50.00 and $60.00 (US) including the design fee.  I hoped she would quail
... alas, she did not.  Why didn't I say $75.00!
I'm working a seamans style scarf.... the cashmere and the nasty green
worked together for the ribbing around the neck, and then bumply and green
worked together for the tails.  I may also work the cashmere into the tails
somehow, since I've got plenty.  I wonder if I get to keep the leftovers???
naah. probably not.  and I hate the colors anyway.

I'm trying to figure out a good, speedy, pattern for the tails that will
work with such highly textured yarns. It's supposed to "match" a crocheted
hat, that I've not been able to see.  If I didn't know that crochet eats
yarn so much faster, I'd ask to see the hat, and would crochet the tails to
match....

Frog Ponds.

I can't believe I'm so dumb!  I reached the point to split my Bluefaced
Leicester sweater front at the v neck, and stopped shaping the armholes!
SIGH!  back to the frog pond for about three inches.  It's a good think I
love this yarn, and the sweater.  I'd likely shove it into a closet
somewhere if I didn't, shop model or no shop model!

Thankfuls,

This year at our Thanksgiving dinner, the hostess (my SIL) skipped what I
realize now that I think should be a standard conversation topic.  We
discussed which books affected us most in elementary school (or were
favorites).  It was a lively and fun conversation, but I missed the pause to
be thankful for things.  I like to go around the table and have everyone
identify things for which they're thankful -- it reminds us of the purpose
of the holiday, and helps to teach the kids not to take it all for granted.

So ... I am thankful for having such a wonderful husband -- and that our
marriage seems to be getting stronger and closer every day.  I am thankful
that my children are basically healthy, even though I'd like to change
certain behavior patterns NOW -- it's good to focus on the good now and
then.

I am thankful for having knitting as a creative outlet that also serves as a
stress reliever and meditative device.  I'm thankful for my skills with
knitting, and for the joyous opportunities I'm having to share them through
teaching.  I'm thankful to have a job that involves a passion (working at an
LYS), and that my husband can support us so that I don't have to work in the
more lucrative field for which I'm trained (law).  I'm thankful for the
opportunities to play with, and knit with, all the wonderful fibers and
yarns that I see every day ... and that our economy allows the yarn
manufacturers to produce them.

I'm thankful that my children are interested in knitting, and are trying to
learn.  I'm thankful that they love music, and love to hear me sing at
night... and that I have the ability to do so.

I'm thankful that I have a forum for sharing my knitting loves and
frustrations, that will also let me blather on about the things for which
I'm thankful.  I'm thankful that so many people are willing to support the
KnitSwap list with kind words and money! (as soon as the paperwork is
shuffled, KnitSwap will be ad free!)

I'm thankful for the technology that has brought this list into my home each
day!

and now, you can be thankful that I'm finally shutting up!

Back to my knitting... with joy!

Helen
AOL IM Screen Name NdlDncr   ICQ # 23457103

mailto:NeedleDncr@mediaone.net
Home Page: http://www.angelfire.com/il/hkpope

Hook up with old friends:
http://www.alumni.net/cgi-bin/affiliate.pl?email=hkpope%40mediaone.net

Ask me about Quixtar IBO.

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:53:32 -0500
From: "spider" <spider@computer.net>
Subject: Knit: Teacher gifts-Recess necessaries

Hi everyone,

I once gave the recess necessaries as a gift to a teacher I was working
with. It consisted of matching wool socks, mittens and headband.It came in
real handy as this teacher really believed in getting those kids out 2X a
day no matter how cold it was!! It was very much appreciated!

Knitters Do It In Public!

Knit On!

fran
spider@computer.net
chappaqua, ny

Home of the President of the US and the future US Senator from NY

Go Wildcats! Go Hoosiers!

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:11:34 -0500
From: Brenda <clough@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Knit: Last Minute Gifties

My daughter dragged me to the stores this weekend, and I can report on the
latest Gift Trends in Knitting:

You know about bulky-yarn sweaters, of course.  Bulky-knit scarves and hats are
also very trendy!  The Gap store is full of them, all in solid colors. If you
make one be sure to make the hat with earflaps and possibly ties -- Flor has a
pattern up on her web page.  Also, all those small balls of Regia and sock
yarns?  Turn them into striped watch caps for men.  (For some reason bulky does
not seem to be masculine.)

I have never seen a Dale of Norway sweater in person, but they're selling them
(for a pretty price) over at Hudson Bay Outfitters, an outdoor-clothing and
equipment store.  Gorgeous!  Some of them are lined, I assume to ameliorate the
scratchiness of the wool.

Cables and chenille, still red-hot.  Adorable knitted kid's hats, with points,
tassels, braided tips, pompoms.

Brenda
 
 
 

Helen Pope wrote:

> Hey knitbuds!
>
> First, I've got to respond to Jennifer Tocker's query seeking last minute
> gift ideas...
> 1) for fairly fast knitters:  the December "pattern" in EZ's Knitters
> Almanac is a "wishbone" sweater that only works at 2 1/2 sts to the inch.
>
> 2) sticking with larger gauges, make chunky slipper socks:  they go much
> faster at 5 sts/in than they do at 9!
>
> 3) Seaman's scarves still work when you use bigger yarns too -- though
> they're not as elegant, they are still warm, functional, and attractive.
> (see hideous knitting below).
>
> 4) Hats, and ear warming bands go swiftly, even when you're NOT doing the
> chunky thing, and hand painted or variegated yarn can do the patterning for
> you.
>
> 5) Mittens are faster than socks (who knows why?)
>
> 6) Those infamous and wonderous hand knit wash/dish cloths... still go
> quickly, still feel great...
 
 

- --
- ---------
Brenda W. Clough, author of DOORS OF DEATH AND LIFE
From Tor Books in May 2000
http://www.sff.net/people/Brenda/

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 09:34:36 -0800
From: "Sue Hulbert" <shulbert@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Knit: Knit - LYS visit

Hi knitters - I treated myself to a visit to my LYS, where I didn't buy
anything, this time, but had fun knitting and chatting with the group there.
Several customers came in while I was there and I was pleased to see there
were a lot of young people enthused about knitting.  I am doing a mitered
squares vest called "Amanda's Building Blocks."  This is done with Noro
Kureyton and is quite interesting.  I don't think I spelled that right.
 

Sue of Snohomish

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:19:02 -0500
From: "lottie jones florist ltd." <andjaree@reach.net>
Subject: Knit: Scratchiness in wool

Brenda mentioned in her post that the Hudsons Bay Outfitters
have sweaters some of them lined to perhaps aleviate the scratchy
wool problem we so often hear complaints about.
My friend the spinner was in the store the other day and when
I made a similiar remark she very matter of factly said " wash it and
the spinning oil will come out, that's why it feels so coarse".
I did, and it made an amazing difference.
Just a tip that was passed on to me
Mary Anne

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:17:13 -0500
From: "Pat" <mpope@ticz.com>
Subject: Knit: Recognition of the Givers on the list (Long, delete at will)

Thank you, Tameson,

I am so glad you mentioned the knit-in hem.

I understand this is something used a lot in other countries for sweater
hems.

My sister in law was a knitter who lived in Germany for awhile when my
brother was stationed there with the US Army.  She adapted this hem when she
noted them using it there.  You are right, she would knit her stockinette
hem depth one needle size smaller, then switch over to the sweater body size
when she had knit in the hem.....a three needle method; right?  With the
back needle and the front needle held wrong sides together, and knit
together from each as one stitch. Similar to a three needle bind off; only
knitting, and not binding off.  I am so happy you brought this up, as I
seldom see it discussed, and I know there are newbie knitters on the list
who would benefit from learning this technique. I am not a newbie; but, I
have not done this to any degree, with handknitting.  I am thinking that
what causes the hem to lay flat is perhaps the possibility that the first
half of the hem was knit in the smaller gauge, then the other in the larger?
Or do you wait until you knit them together to upsize?  I know that a
smaller tension will draw the hem in............set me straight here, now,
seems the entire hem is done in the smaller gauge?

 I am also a machine knitter, and this technique is often used when machine
knitting for neat hems.

I have been under the weather and lurking a lot, lately, and absorbing the
input of other knitters on the list.  You never know too much, or grow too
old to learn, and I really enjoy reading about what other knitters employ in
their knitting.

I have been a knitter for a long time; but
sometimes I just sit back and mostly read what the rest of you have to say.
The discussions about new patterns and yarns and what everyone is knitting
is fun to read; and I laugh along when we all get a bit silly and giddy and
irreverent about stashes, etc.; but I really applaud those like yourself who
offer help in such a positive way.  I think this is what the list is
basically about.  Sharing tips and techniques. Giving positively to others.
Talking about techniques that work for you, and suggesting ways of doing
something more neatly and more easily, to those who may have no other
mentors.

It is easy to sit back and brag about the wonderful things you knit in this
or that wonderful yarn; but it is knitters like yourself and Flor, and Judy,
and some others that make this list so special for me.  You all share and
help and promote the art of knitting.  And you make yourself accessible and
easy to approach when others need a little help.  I often just quietly email
someone asking for help, privately; but reading your post, I realize that it
may help that particular knitter; but what about the others who might also
benefit from the information?!

I also think we have become so paranoid about old issues, arguments, and
flame wars, to the point that we are afraid to help someone, afraid of
inadvertently saying something that others will take offense to, and send us
poison emails.  Isn't this a really sad state of affairs, when we sit back
and clam up, afraid something innocently said will be misconstrued. It
really saddens me. This is a great list: a big cyber family of knitters who
enjoy knitting and sharing that wonderful art.  Now, just don't even bother
"flaming" me.  I could care less.  I do not care to discuss THAT
issue......it has been harped on and discussed to death.  What I am saying
is that it has made lots of us afraid to talk about the actual art of
knitting; and THAT IS SAD.

Thank you, Tameson.  You make me feel good to be a knitter on this list,
again. I applaud all the sincere, nice knitters who are knowledgeable, and
never get too inflated to reach out a hand when it is needed.  I so admire
the designers among us.
The first time I began reading the list and recognized names; I was awed to
actually be able to reap from their vast store of knowledge.

  I know Dawn probably remembers how amazed I was that she would email
me.........duh.  I now know and realize that most of them are good people,
and have both feet firmly planted on the floor.  No swollen heads there!  It
just makes me admire them more.  It would be so easy to be egotistical; but
they're by and large not.  I remember being amazed reading about Dawn
working on this historical house she is trying to renovate. Trying to send
her kids to college......not being able to wander the globe like a lot do.
And
our sweet, loveable Flor.  Knitting up a storm, and putting all her
wonderful patterns on her website, free, for us to print off.  She even has
a spot with my cat on it!  Thank you, Flor.  And not to leave the men out:
Joe, who is being recognized as a designer.
Such giving, unselfish people. And then, there are just the average home
bodies, who, like me,  has knitted a lifetime, and kept family and friends
gifted with our knitting.
Thank you, too, for your generosity and caring.

I think it is time to stop and tell them all how appreciated they  are.
Thanks, all of you! Without you, a list of this scope would not be possible.
And a hat off to those with the computer skills and unselfish donations of
time and money, have made this list possible.

And last, but by no means least, the wonderful women who mother us, and TRY
to keep things peaceful and in order with so many people to deal with.  They
give of their time so unselfishly. Thank you, ladies.

Time to shut up and go back to my lurking and knitting.  We just celebrated
a day of Thanksgiving in the US; and I understand the Canadians celebrate an
entire weekend.
I don't think it is remiss to publicly thank those that make this list the
oasis for knitting that we all rely on and enjoy........and use for our own
needs.

Pat in Indiana

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:55:31 -0600
From: "cat" <cat@postnet.com>
Subject: Knit: Looking for some yarn

I'm making this request for a friend who does not have a computer or access
to the list.

She is looking for four 50 gr. balls of Emu Superwash Double Knitting Weight
yarn in a dark blue turquoise or peacock color.  The numbers on the ball
band are 3074 and EB688 but we're not sure which is color number and which
is lot number.

Would anyone have any of this in your stash?  If so, please contact me off
list and I'll give you her phone number so you can contact each other
directly.  She is willing to trade or purchase.

Thanks.

Charlotte - in Fenton, MO
cat@postnet.com

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:13:07 -0700
From: "Kamala Kropinak" <kaboukie@swcp.com>
Subject: Knit: Intro

Hello List,

I've been lurking the list for about a week now and thought it about time to
say hello, hello!
My name is Kamala and I work at an Internet Service Provider in Albuquerque,
NM.  I learned to knit just 2 months ago and LOVE IT!  I've knitted 2 hats
and 2 scarves.  I took a class at my LYS on basic knitting.  Now, when I
look for projects (preferably in the beginner section) I see a lot of multi
colored stuff.  Can anyone recommend a good book for a beginner to start
working in multi colors?  I've been browsing the Vogue knitting and
Interweave Knitting magazines and love everything in them, but I feel
somewhat overwhelmed by the complexity of each pattern.  So, for now, I'm
just sticking with little projects such as hats and scarves, each one
color...

Also, there was a hat I saw, I believe it was in the Reader's Digest
Knitting Book (can't remember the exact title) that looks like it is round
like a beret but baggy and hangs off the back of the head with a long string
where it is ended in the middle and one would put a tassle, bell, or some
kind of ornament on the end.  Does anyone know where I may find a pattern
for that hat?

Sorry to sound like such a green-horn here... But I look forward to learning
gobs about knitting from everyone :)

Thanks,
Kamala
kaboukie@swcp.com

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:13:32 -0800
From: Joan <joanmac@pacbell.net>
Subject: Knit: Men's vest

Christine Squires wrote:

I am looking for men's vest patterns, and am finding very
little - i.e., 1.

  Theres the Flyboy Felted Vest on my site. Comes chest sizes 38-60".

 http://www.whiteliesdesigns.com

  Joan McGowan

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 08:36:26 +1100
From: Sarah and Jamie <brink909@austarnet.com.au>
Subject: Knit: OK, I give up. Message from parade@penguins.org.au

Hiya folks,

It seems the reason that the media are so completely confused about the
penguin sweater debacle is not necessarily because of bumbled research. It
seems that the Phillip Island team can't decide whether they want them or not.

Here's a preface before I tell you what they just sent me in the mail :/

When the oil spills happened in January this year I sent them an e-mail
asking for the pattern & whether I could gain permission to put it on my
website. I got a reply that basically said thankyou for the kind idea but
they didn't need any more sweaters because they had plenty in reserve and
it wasn't necessary but if I'd like to make a donation here's the address,
Australian dollars please...etc.

Then when knitfolks began asking where to send the sweaters I checked the
www.penguins.org.au website. Again, it said they didn't need any more
sweaters (it was very hard info to find. You had to sign up for their news
section to get there. It's also no there any more). One magazine says they
do want them, another says they don't, please send hot water bottle covers
or donations... I got confused so I asked them again...

Now they're saying they still want penguin sweaters. So I hereby promise
not to ever ever mention penguin sweaters again. If the source of the
information can't decide whether they want the things or not I will not
enter into the discussion any more (but I will whap anyone with a wet skein
who insists that January in Australia is cold, or that oil spills are still
happening, so there :P)

Anyway, I just got this in the mail along with the pattern from
parade@penguin.org.au:
I hereby send this as the reason we are all so confused and so now everyone
can have the info straight from the source as it stands at this particular
second and I don't guarantee they won't change their minds or publicise
differently within half an hours time...  Please don't contact me for the
pattern, you can get it straight from parade@penguins.org.au

- --------------Begin forwarded message---------------

>The need for the sweaters is not urgent as our last major oil spill was
>last January...however at the Penguin Parade each evening we monitor the
>state of the penguins coming ashore and there are occasional birds with
>evidence of oil contamination (averaging about three per week) which we
>catch for treatment in our Penguin Rehabilitation Centre. If the bird is
>too weak to be washed straight away, we use the jumpers to prevent the
>bird from preening itself and being poisoned by the oil. Thus the need for
>sweaters is ongoing. We do have a bank of about a thousand sweaters but
>let me assure you, we would never throw sweaters away!
>If you would like to knit for us we would most gratefully accept but as
>the need is not urgent may we suggest that you send completed sweaters by
>surface mail and don't go to the expense of air mail unnecessarily.
>Best wishes to all, Lyn Blom.

And here's a little snippet of info included with the pattern:

>Unfortunately, some of the jumpers are unsuitable for the penguins because
>of very loose knitting  or greasy wool. Rather than throwing them away, we
>are selling them on soft toy penguins in our Souvenir shop and all of the
>monies received are being shared between the Penguin Rehabilitation Centre
>and the South Gippsland Native Animal Rescue.
>
>Completed jumpers can be sent care of Lyn Blom, Phillip Island Nature
>Park, PO Box 97, Cowes  3922, Victoria, AUSTRALIA

Any my very last word on the subject is that I wish these people had better
communication within their organisation. Better still, make your penguin
sweaters in gaily coloured acrylic & they'll be gauranteed to go into the
gift shop and stay in one piece on the penguin toy of a little kid, thereby
raising money which can be used straight away and you won't have the
expense of trying to buy Australian dollars from your bank in order to make
a donation.

Sarah, who has discovered that going to the source of the information can
get you into just as much confusion as believing unsubstantiated gossip, no
matter what the subject.
 
 
 

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 14:12:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Ruth Schooley <twistedspinster@yahoo.com>
Subject: Knit: ADMIN: momstuff, posting for Kat, archives

Hello, knitters!

Hope you had a happy Turkey Day! And for those
outside the US, pause to think of something
you're thankful for, too. (like the
knitlist!<GGG>)

We seem to be having an ongoing problem with AOL
6.0-- it doesn't let people send email as plain
text, but just as HTML. If you see a garbaged-up
post, that's what's happening. Most of the time,
they won't even go through (that's one of the
ways we protect against v*ruses...)

The solution seems to be to get a free email
account from someplace like www.hotmail.com or
mail.yahoo.com.

Or, we may have to migrate the Knitlist to
something like egroups. I don't really want to do
this, because it would be a monumental pain in
the patoot... sigh. We'll keep you informed.

This is for Kat, having just this kind of
problem:

Subj: 4th attempt to send list of items for trade

Date: 11/17/00 7:03:42 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Kat Friend
To: knitlist@kniton.com

Hi,

Hoping the 4th time is a charm and that this
makes it thru the mail:

Love,
katfriend@aol.com
- -----------------
Hello Everyone,
To amuse myself, I glued artificial nail tips to
my nails a week ago and have not been able to
knit since doing so -- my tension is off and the
nails get in the way of the needles so I've been
crocheting and cleaning.  Just before I
glamorized my hands, I bought the new VK Purse
and Backpack book so I do have some projects in
mind.  As for cleaning, I've turned up the
following that I would like to trade.  Consider
one or both a holiday gift to yourself that costs
nothing but something from your stash:

12 copies of Knitting Digest including ALL of
1998 (the year I subscribed) & Sept and Nov 1996,
Mar, May, Nov 1997, and Jan 1999.

Knit Ring + Patterns - You can see one of these
in the Lion Brand Catalog.  I got mine at a craft
show a few years ago.

All in excellent shape from a non-smoking home.
In trade, I'm interested in bits of novelty yarns
for shawls, shawl/stole patterns esp. older ones,
pom poms for trim, polar fleece for scarves or ?
As you can tell, it doesn't have to be knit
related.  One time, I traded for index cards so,
make me an offer!

Love,
katfriend@aol.com
Santa Clara, CA

Subj: Have Acrylic Yarn for Charity
Date: 11/22/00 12:26:41 PM Pacific Standard Time
From: Kat Friend
To: KnitList@KnitOn.com

Hi,

I have a medium size box of acrylic yarn I'd like
to donate to charity.  It includes some larger
skeins of Red Heart in their Holly and Ivy
varigated.  I've already donated two larger boxes
of yarn to a local Sr. Citizens Center so please
don't suggest that.  If you can use the yarn for
charity and are in the USA, please e-mail me.  I
will have a box of wool yarn later in the year.

Thanks.

Love,
katfriend@aol.com
Santa Clara, CA

***
Ruth again here: Please don't deluge the listmoms
with too many posts that won't go through.... we
have lives, and listmoms that get overwhelmed get
burned out. I don't want to lose Mary or Barb,
they're great!!!

I've started putting the archives on my geocities
page at http://www.oocities.org/twistedspinster/

It's a quick and dirty job of HTML, but at least
I'm getting them out there! I'm trying to keep up
with the latest, within a couple days, and slowly
get the older ones up too. Feel free to nag me as
necessary...<GGG>

OKC (Obligatory Knit Content)

I know, the above really does quality as knit
content, but this is what I'm knitting now. <G>

Pyr-ful Ruana
Jalinda, my big Great Pyranees furbaby dog, and I
are going to march in the Christmas parade, as
part of the Great Pyranees rescue organization.
So, I'm spinning and knitting a pyr-fur ruana
based on the one in Folk Shawls... too much fun!
Stay tuned for the story of how I manage to keep
it from shedding so much. It'll probably be a
replay of Stephenie's bathtub story! (*I* get to
wear the ruana, btw.<G>)

And then- I got inspired.<GGG> I happened to
catch a commercial for 102 Dalmations, and saw
the little black-spotted sweater that Oddball was
wearing. BINGO! I'll knit Jalinda a Dalmation
sweater to wear in the parade! LOL ... we'll see
if I can figure out the geometry correctly, much
less get it done in time.

I may not have a lot of FOs, but I sure have fun!

Knit on and prosper,
Ruth

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 17:17:25 -0500
From: Barbara A Vaccaro <vaccarotrumpet@juno.com>
Subject: Knit: Re: Knitlist Digest V2000 #4226
 
 

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 10:20:22 +1100
From: sydow <sydow@optushome.com.au>
Subject: Re: Knit: Hems, et al.

Hi Pat, and all

Just reading all the 'thanks' posts makes me wish we had a similar
celebration here in OZ - this country seems to be running on greed just
now (see stuff about the Global warming/Kyoto protocol), and too few
people here sit down and think about the good things they have to be
thankful for!  (Mini-rant over)

Hems:  Yes, a turned up hem is a neat way to do away with ribbing - do
the underneath part on 1 needle size smaller, and then make a purl row
where the fold is to be - it just defines the edge a bit better. (ie -
ridge on the outside).

Alternatively, for a female jumper, you can do a row of K2tog YO for the
fold row - when folded, this gives a decorative picot edge.

HTH,

Karen Sydow
Melbourne, Australia

Pat wrote:
>
> Thank you, Tameson,
>
> I am so glad you mentioned the knit-in hem.
>
> I understand this is something used a lot in other countries for sweater
> hems.
>
> My sister in law was a knitter who lived in Germany for awhile when my
> brother was stationed there with the US Army.  She adapted this hem when she
> noted them using it there.  You are right, she would knit her stockinette
> hem depth one needle size smaller, then switch over to the sweater body size
> when she had knit in the hem.....a three needle method; right?  With the
> back needle and the front needle held wrong sides together, and knit
> together from each as one stitch. Similar to a three needle bind off; only
> knitting, and not binding off.  I am so happy you brought this up, as I
> seldom see it discussed, and I know there are newbie knitters on the list
> who would benefit from learning this technique. I am not a newbie; but, I
> have not done this to any degree, with handknitting.  I am thinking that
> what causes the hem to lay flat is perhaps the possibility that the first
> half of the hem was knit in the smaller gauge, then the other in the larger?
> Or do you wait until you knit them together to upsize?  I know that a
> smaller tension will draw the hem in............set me straight here, now,
> seems the entire hem is done in the smaller gauge?

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:01:09 EST
From: McRuggles@aol.com
Subject: Knit: Re: non-dainty scarves

Mary wrote: << The fru-fru gene completely passed DM by so have to  find
something simple enough for her tastes yet sorta  special, too.  >>

Since I didn't invent the Ruggles Reversible Scarf Stitch #1, I hope it's not
immodest to rave about it again...it's just a very simple, easy-to-knit
stitch that yields a high payoff in texture, drape (or "hand") and, best of
all, the way the stitches catch the light.  Since posting it to the knitlist,
with the story about how the woman in the Metro taught it me, I've received
dozens of emails form knitters who've tried it and love it too.

You can see the pattern and a good photo of the stitch at Sarah's site.

 <A HREF="http://www.oocities.org/Paris/9197/reversiblescarfpattern.htm">
Ruggles Reversible Stitch #1 and 2 others</A>

I'm currently finishing a lonnnng scarf for spoiled big brother using the 3rd
stitch at the site and Briggs & Little worsted Ragg wool that I picked up
this summer.  This stitch is different, but attractive, on both sides and,
being deep or thick, has a real thermal advantage.  So I recommend it for
kids things and any adult scarves where warmth is the objective.

Cheers,
Catherine

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 17:02:39 -0700
From: "Joan Hamer" <jlhknits@earthlink.net>
Subject: Knit: Thanksgiving weekend

Hi Guys,

Popping my head up again. I'm having a nice four day weekend as opposed to
DH who is on the couch with a bad cold. I'm finishing the second of four
Christmas stockings and am ahead of schedule so I might be able to work on
MY sweater tonight.

___Great vest pattern out there somewhere___

The big craft fair is held this weekend in Sun City AZ, and I saw the
neatest vest on a person. Of course I walked right up and started asking
questions. It was a round front cardigan vest with the back plain and the
fronts done in alternating blocks of stockinette stitch and reverse st st.
On each of the stockinette blocks she had duplicated saguaro cacti and it
looked super. The duplicate stitch was her own idea but said the vest was an
old vest pattern she had. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Nifty idea.

____Southwestknit_____

I'd like to jump start a small mailing list I have for knitters in the
desert Southwest. It's very small and we need more members! If you live in
the desert areas, have an interest in living or traveling in the desert
areas, I invite you to join Southwestknit@egroups.com.

Knitting here is very different from PA where I spent most of my life. So
it's nice to have a bunch to compare notes about what we knit and wear.
Layering is the key as it was 32 this morning and almost 70 this afternoon
and the summers, well you can imagine!!!

Also, while I'm putting out pleas, if anyone lives in the Northwest Valley
of Phoenix (Sun City, Sun City West, Surprise or thereabouts) and would like
to participate in a  real live group, let me know. I have a hard time
getting to Phoenix and Mesa as I have a troublesome eye again so I'm
scouting for local knitters and yes we have a LYS!

____New Catalogs_____

My new Patternworks and Wool Connection catalogs are practically dog-eared
already!! I think these are the best both companies ever put out! Being a
sensible and disciplined person (if you believe that...), I am putting
Post-Its in the pages that have things I want, some of which Wool Connection
can bring to Stitches for me next October. Talk about planning ahead! My
friend Marilyn Roberts is doing the Hues in Horizontal from Knitter's and is
trying desparately to enable me into buying it now, but I've been good.

_____Duplicate Stitch____

Since I need to put names on these stockings, I have to admit that never in
my life have I done duplicate stitch. Isn't that pathetic? The photos in
books never seemed to guide me enough. So, what is the best visual source in
a reference book or on line to show me exactly how to do this up and down
and sideways?

Enough outta me for a bit.

Joan Hamer in Sun City AZ
jlhknits@earthlink.net
Editor/Publisher - Pine Meadow Knitting News
<http://www.benefitslink.com/knit/pmkn>

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 19:26:16 EST
From: ZANDRE35T@aol.com
Subject: Knit: Gifts/Cats/Schtuff

First the gift thing.  Felting.  Anything you want to do quick, do in large
stitches in real wool and felt it.  You can whip up mittens, hot pads
slippers in almost no time if you knit them loose and big and felt them.  I
was just going through an old issue of FCEK that had an article on a lady who
shrinks sweaters from the thrift store and them makes toaster covers, tea pot
cozies, mitts, etc. You need to make some I-cord and felt that too and then
sew it over seams to finish.  Very nice, thrifty and practical.  If I get one
more coffee cup from somebody at work......

Cat motifs - thanks for all the suggestions, offers and advice.  I went in
search of Tap Dancing Lizard, no luck at Borders.  Will have to go somewhere
else and look.  I have time I am going to make a cardigan and put cats on the
pockets and maybe the back.

Great find for Homestyle lovers, Red Heart has an answer to it that is
cheaper and IMHO not such icky colors.  I got some red and white to make a
holiday throw with white snowflakes on it.  Just to prove I can buy ackryllic
yarn once in a while.  Dogs in the house you know.

I have my Liz Claiborne rust cotton ribbed turtleneck sweater with the bell
sleeves on - Thrift Store $2.99.  Never been worn and a recent style.  Oh
What Fun it is to buy cheap stuff that isn't cheap.  Jingle Bells, jingle
bells......

Marge

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 23:05:02 -0200
From: Flor <mafurla@matrix.com.br>
Subject: Knit: Dalmatian spots & dent-de-chat hem & st name

Hello dear listers,

At 14:12 25/11/00 -0800, Ruth Schooley wrote:

>wear the ruana, btw.<G>)

Till this point I was reading and wondering how a dog would wear a ruana.
:)))))
>
>if I can figure out the geometry correctly, much
>less get it done in time.

Those polkadot dogs are so cute. I'd just add a Dalmatian spots chart to my
free patterns & graphs page. The graph was worked upon a "real" dog pic.

http://flor.freeservers.com/dalmatia.htm

At 10:20 26/11/00 +1100, [Karen] sydow wrote:
>Hems:  [snip]
>
>Alternatively, for a female jumper, you can do a row of K2tog YO for the
>fold row - when folded, this gives a decorative picot edge.

I like to use those picot edge not to eliminate the usual ribbing but just
to add a nice border especially in baby garments. I know this technique
with another French name: dent de chat. Dente de gato in Portuguese or cat
tooth in English. I think fang would not be the correct word as the picot
shape is triangular like the "molar" cats teeth. There's a pic at the url
below tog with a close of a special baby-sh honeycomb stitch. Very
delicate, it's done using only one st every slant. Pics at

http://flor.freeservers.com/temp2.htm

And

At 19:01 25/11/00 EST, [Catherine] McRuggles@aol.com wrote:
>
>I'm currently finishing a lonnnng scarf for spoiled big brother using the
3rd
>stitch at the site ... and at site we read: "There's probably a name for
this stitch but I didn't find it in a quick check of BGW and Mon Tricot
stich reference books."

This is the so called Sand Stitch. AS uses it often. See Noyo Harbor and
Inishmaan. The Refined Aran Vest from an old Knitter's issue also uses it
in the side panels. Candace Strick uses it as rib in the blue alpaca
sweater in the cover of her last book.

Have you all a great Sunday.

Hugs,

Flor
 
 
 

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 21:24:01 -0500
From: "Artcom" <jarthur@odyssey.on.ca>
Subject: Knit: Bobbins for colour knitting intarsia

Hi - anyone out there use little plastic bobbins for intarsia work, to hold
short lengths of yarn?  I'm cleaning my collection of "stuff" and have quite
a collection, little fish shapes, "M" shapes,  oblongs, 28 in all.   There's
a little booklet "Improving Your Handknitting Techniques from Patons, and
four Bernat Pattern books using Berella 4, three for ladies, one for men's
designs.

I'd just like postage to mail them to a new home they'd be used.  Maybe some
new knitters out there?  Write me off list please.

Jan

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