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Leuconoe
Registered User
(3/14/01 4:46:20 am)
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dvorak
concerto
Hi there!
I'm working on the
dvorak concerto right now... but there are a few really hard
passages. Does anybody have an idea which etudes would be good to
play? Thanks a lot for every suggestion....
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Duane
Nevins 
Registered User
(3/15/01 1:11:36 am)
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dvorak
cello concerto
I agree with
harriclay
harriclay
Registered User
(3/13/01 11:05:58
am)
Re: dvorak cello
concerto
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I
thought the Dvorak concerto WAS an etude.
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Lucy
Clifford
Registered User
(3/17/01 9:21:47 pm)
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Re:
dvorak concerto
Try taking some passages from the
Dvorak and using them as etudes! This is a technique that I've used
very sucessfully. Alter the rhythms and bowings and add a few guide
notes and hey presto! This works in orchestral music too. This helps
with the memorisation as well, and isolates the hardest bits, while
still in context, more so than an 'etude' would be.
I can't
think of some of the things that I used in the Dvorak - if I look
out my score I might be able to help, but I have NO idea WHERE it
IS! 
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SGraceB
Registered User
(3/18/01 5:54:52 pm)
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Re:
dvorak concerto
I agree with using passages from the
concerto itself. Why spend time on other dreadful etudes, when you
can use the music itself? For example, turn hard passages (like pg.
2 arpeggiated stuff) into chords and practice extremely
slowly.
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TerryM
Registered User
(3/18/01 7:24:32 pm)
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Re:
dvorak concerto
While making an etude out of bits of
the concerto may get around the immediate problem, you also run the
danger of turning the Dvorak concerto or other such music into a
"dreadful" etude. This concerto is over-played now and is danger of
becoming another musical "warhorse" if it is not already one.
One of the purposes of etudes is to work on specific
problems in a repetative framework, so that the particular aspect of
bowing, fingering, string changing, etc. is resolved. While this may
happen to some degree by making an etude out of a piece of music,
this approach may not deal as effectively with the longer-term issue
of building technique and training the hands and getting the desired
coordination, as etudes do. Besides if you get burned out on an
etude it is no great loss, although, in fairness, there are a few
good etudes that are worth playing as music in their own right.
Terry
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Leuconoe
Registered User
(3/20/01 5:00:25 pm)
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Re:
dvorak concerto
Thanks Terry!
That's exactly what
I'm afraid of.... I really love the dvorak concerto and it would be
really terrible if I'd come to like it less because I made an etude
out of it... that's why I'm searching for usefull etudes that do
help me with the desired technique for the concerto.
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harriclay
Registered User
(3/28/01 9:40:16 pm)
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Why did
my silly post get swallowed up? NT
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DoDahlberg
Moderator
(3/29/01 4:38:31 am)
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Re: Why
did my silly post get swallowed up? NT
Which silly post? The one I don't
see here? This week I lost one of mine to an accidental click of the
back button and 1/2 of it's rewrite to spell check. Was it something
like that or do we have other bugs at work.
Where's
Dave?
Dorie
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DWThomas
Registered User
(3/29/01 7:56:14 am)
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Where's Dave
Would you believe I got
swallowed up filling a shopping cart with cellos and
violas.
So far, I've not had a problem (watch -- this one
will vaporize into cyberspace 
).
I've not tried spell check, but I know most of these
"forms-based" things seem to be a trifle contankerous. I suspect the
pop-up ads and such don't help any.
Good (yawn) Morning
World
Dave
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harriclay
Registered User
(4/3/01 7:43:38 pm)
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Re: Why
did my silly post get swallowed up? NT
It got embedded into Duane's.
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