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OyOy
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(8/8/00 2:29:22 pm)
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Desperately-needed new thread
So; where's everybody from? What's your cello's name? Who wrote the "Haydn" concerto? How 'bout those Canadians? Whatever happened to Miriam Gendron? Do people with small hands play with a smaller sound? How much should I charge for lessons? What's your favorite concerto? What's the best kind of A string? Is Starker a cold player? What's all this about a concerto by Korngold? When is Mom coming back?

Edited by OyOy at: 8/8/00 2:29:22 pm

G M Stucka
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(8/4/00 3:15:48 pm)
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Ahhhhh, what a relief!! I'm from Chicago and I've lived in the area all of my life except for the nine years that I played in other orchestras (Winnipeg, Manitoba and Cleveland). The instrument I currently enjoy playing is a Carl Becker which, like me, is from Chicago. The cello was made in 1918. My preferred A-String: Chromcor plus medium.
People on the board already know my feelings about Starker and, in my opinion, his new recording of the Rachmaninoff Sonata proves my point about C O L D!!!!! Brrrrr. I think that small hands do not produce small sounds, I love the Korngold Concerto, and I do hope MOM doesn't stay away too long!

Nice to get back to cello stuff----in spite of "old" subjects. Bye

JL Torok 
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(8/4/00 4:44:51 pm)
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cello conundrum
In my desire to see the board return to cello related topics, I will share my upcoming cello dilemma and perhaps some people will have some good advice for me.

I have been only playing cello for a year now and have loved every minute of it - well, almost. :) I do take weekly lessons. At the end of September, however, I have a 3 month military assignment in the Virginia area. The first part of this stay involves the type of training that would make it impossible to bring my cello with me from home. The second phase of my stay will be more forgiving and should be permit me enough time to resume cello practice. I am concerned about my playing - at this early stage in my cello playing I am afraid I will lose ability quickly. I am also concerned about having access to a cello while I am there - it may be possible to get my cello there, but I wonder if places will rent cellos on such a short term basis. My final concern is that I will be without lessons for such a long period of time. I imagine it would be hard to find someone willing to teach an adult beginner on such a temporary basis.

Anyway, any thoughts would be appreciated on this.

matthias24 
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(8/4/00 4:49:52 pm)
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haha. I'm from Oklahoma, my cello's name is Chloe, I have friends in Canada, never heard of Miriam Gendron, people with small hands don't have a smaller sound, they just might be a little flat more often, don't have a favorite concerto (haven't heard many) my favorite A sting I've played with so far was Jargar, never heard a Starker recording, never heard of Korngold, I have no idea when mom is coming back.
(gosh, I'm boring.)

~ aaron ~

matthias24 
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(8/4/00 4:58:01 pm)
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hmmmm. I've been playing cello for 9 months, and will also have to stop for about 3 months. (due, however, to marching band, not military service. :) )

what part of Virginia? If you are going to Quantico, then you should be close to the Brobst Violin Shop in Alexandria. The people are some of the friendliest I have met, and very helpful. I'm not sure about whether they'll let you rent on a short-term basis, but it's worth a shot. I played a cello there while I was on vacation in June, and it was great. I played on a Giuseppe Renaldi cello, which had a nice sound, and a gorgeous back!! their website is: www.brobstviolins.com/

Hope I've helped in some way. Good Luck. :)

~ aaron ~

Edited by matthias24  at: 8/4/00 4:58:01 pm

MsCheryl 
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(8/4/00 5:18:03 pm)
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1.New Jersey side of Philadelphia - that explains my inferiority complex - not IN Philadelphia and not on the New York side!

2. No Name (as Odysseus said)

3. Is that the C Maj, or D Maj

4. Love those Canadians!

5. MG is in hiding in the Yukon woods even as we speak -shhhhhh

6. Some people complain that I am too loud??!!!

7. As much as your little heart desires :)

8. Whatever ones I am not playing

9. An in tune one

10. I couldn't say - what's the temperature in Indiana?

11. Sounds like a new Orville Redenbacher flavor...

12. I'm a Mom - do I count?

Thanks, OyOy :)

Edited by MsCheryl  at: 8/4/00 5:18:03 pm

Stefan79
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(8/4/00 6:15:23 pm)
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I'm from Gvle, Sweden. About 300 kilometers north of Stockholm.
My cello doesn't have a name yet, it was built in Venice in 1980 by Antonio G. (or maybe it's S, I'm not sure) da Monte. I really love my cello, it has a very powerful sound, my teacher called it's tone "a laser beam"...:)
I don't care who wrote that C major concerto, it's great piece...it may as well be another Dvorak concerto...;) I don't care...
Canadians...I've only met one and that was a conductor...his name is Glenn Mossop. I was principal in my schools string orchestra when he conducted the Josef Suk Serenade and I sat on 2nd chair in "The Nocturnal Dances Don Juanquixote" by Aulis Sallinen. He was a great musician!
I have never heard of Miriam Gendron...I've only heard of a Maurice Gendron...
Nope, I don't think that people with small hand create a smaller sound. I do belive that small people have a tendency to sound a little smaller then big people. I guess it's a matter of how big your bow arm is...:)
I don't have one favorite concerto...:) I have lots of them...the Dvorak, Elgar, both the Haydn concertos, the two Sain-Sans concertos, Schelomo...there are so many great works for cello...
The best kind of A string I've played is probably the Larsen Soloist Edition.
I have two recordings with Starker...one where he plays the two Brahms sonatas and one with three of the Beethoven sonatas. I can't say that I like his playing that much...Ok, he's great at technique and all that...but it just doesn't communicate...The pianist, Gyrgy Sebk...well...I'm speechless...I just don't know if it's good or bad...
The Korngold concerto is great!!
I have no idea when Mom is coming back...sorry...

- Stefan :)

Bob
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(8/9/00 6:35:43 am)
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There's a Rose video here with your name on it . . .

Edited by Bob at: 8/9/00 6:35:43 am

G M Stucka
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(8/4/00 7:01:18 pm)
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Yes, if I can just get out from under all of this Stock, we should be able to consummate a trade..............soon, I hope!!!

justinkagan1 
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(8/4/00 8:14:30 pm)
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Gar:
Did you know Marion Heller when she played in Winnipeg? It's a long time ago, but hey...my standpartner in Spoleto, Andrew Eckard, also had an old Becker...didn't leave me particularly awed, and a real finicky instrument to boot. Someone told me the new Beckers cost like 65K...is that possible?!
Played a really bad Faust yesterday, 7-hour rehearsal for tomorrow's concert, at the old, huge Paramount Theater in now-rundown-as-hell Asbury Park, NJ, and as luck would have it the roof was leaking...on me and my cello. Only bad spot in the small pit, required major reorganizing to avoid (props guys didn't have anything big enough to sling over my head, near the apron)...Anton Coppola, Ryan's best buddy, is still gungho and sings (not quite like Don Ho), way too much, vigorous octagenarian who is dedicated to music...refreshing, if taxing.
How about a thread, Bob, about Dounis viz cellists? Who would be a good person to start with on this, assuming Neikrug doesn't read our board too much...and of his students out there stalking the Board?

BA
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(8/4/00 9:51:21 pm)
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Neikrug/ Met settlement?
Hey has anyone heard Neikrug play when he was young or a CD from then? He was supposed to have been really spectacular- but the only performances I have heard of him were very poor- he was already quite old and still trying to play the Paganini concerto.. Would love to hear a young recording.

Justin- the new union paper says the Met settled in May on a 5 year deal ending at $1902 in the final year- I thought they were still negotiating? do they have a separate scale for the associate musicians?

It's true about the new Beckers- as they say, you can fool some of the people all of the time....

Laura Wichers
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(8/5/00 6:07:31 pm)
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Bloomfield Hills, MI.
Jorge Ivanovich.
Apparently not Haydn.
Wot aboot them?
You're obsessed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No.
(-oo, +oo) ...I hate interval notation, and I don't mean theory.
Well, the !OLE! (ask Ryan) concerto, of course. Maybe shosti 1 or kabalevsky 1.
Super-sensitives...hahahahahahahahahahahaha. I like Larsens.
No Way. Anything but.
The popcorn Jelly Bellys are the best, I agree.
When we all show up at her house to clean & decorate so she has some free time.


-Laura

Edited by Laura Wichers at: 8/5/00 6:07:31 pm

CelloFreak
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(8/5/00 1:54:32 pm)
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1) California
2) Doesn't have one. Never really thought about naming it.
3) I haven't the slightest idea. Is this the C Major or D Major?
4) I like Laura's answer! Has anyone seen the movie "Canadian Bacon"?
5) Who? Probably before my time.
6) I would guess not.
7) $500/minute or $0.25/day
8.) Prokofiev Op. 125
9) Jargar I guess. Those are the only strings I've played on when I sort of knew what I was doing.
10) I don't think so, but I've never really listened with that idea in mind.
11) I have no idea.
12) As soon as she test-drives the doorbell. Yes, I mean that literally.

Eric

Edited by CelloFreak at: 8/5/00 1:54:31 pm

zambocello
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(8/4/00 11:17:06 pm)
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Interstate 10. Currently L.A., but I've been an orch member in New Orleans, San Antonio, & Houston. (Maybe Phoenix in the future?)

I call it "Joe," 'cause that's who made it.

I think Haydn wrote all of the Haydn Concertos, except the one by Popper. (The D Major is not like other pieces I've seen by Kraft.)

The dynasty is over. I'm rooting for the Redwings again next year. (Am I on the same question?)

Miriam Gendron?

Did Shirley Tabochnik have small hands? One of you "old timers" from Chicago tell us about Shirley. Please!? Please!?

As much as you can! Your future pricing in your community will be limited by your starting price.

Proko - Symphony Concertante

Larsen, unless you want it to last more than a month or so.

Yes, but great in his own way.

Fine piece. It's too bad orchestras have only 1 cellist a year as soloist so we could hear this kind of rep.

Who knows? Mine doesn't like to fly.

matthias24 
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(8/4/00 11:25:05 pm)
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hmm. I enjoy being technical. :) I DO believe that Odysseus said "Nohbdy" (nobody) that WAS probably the funniest part of that epic!!

~ aaron ~

zambocello
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(8/4/00 11:50:17 pm)
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Re: Neikrug/ Beckers
Yeah, the new Beckers are priced like the old ones! While cello shopping a few years ago I tried a Becker from the 1960s. It's best and, unfortunately, only trait was volume. I have heard a couple of fine Beckers, though. My teacher got one when he came out of retirement for the second time. Also, a Becker from the 19-teens was bought by a Houston cellist a few years ago. They both sounded great. Power and quality.

My teacher, Joe Saunders, spoke very highly of Neikrug. Would he have played with him in the NBC Symphony? Alas, I am not familiar with any Neikrug recordings. (As an aside) Do you know the Sonata for solo cello by his son? It's dedicated to the father, but i've heard it described as having been written AT him. (It's a monstrously difficult piece and they didn't get along, I understand.)

Barb2 
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(8/5/00 12:42:24 am)
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Beautiful B.C.
He's not telling.
Does it matter?
Well, I married one, then gave birth to two ... they're all right!
Who?
That's my excuse.
Depends on if you teach or not, if you show up or not, etc.
Bach violin concertos are flavor of the month here.
My cello and I like Jargar.
Yes, refreshingly cool! :)
Did somebody say popcorn?
Maybe Pat discovered the most wonderful accoustics in her new house and can't put that cello down long enough to check in here!

Barb

y13
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(8/5/00 2:43:42 am)
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Hi all!!
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one here that is not from america - I am from Israel, my cello's name is Zimmer (long story) and I bought him in Russia in 1989 from a musician who desperately wanted to leave the country. (The cello is German). (well, it is a "him" not an it, don't ask me why..)

going back to the military debate - I just wanted to say that I was in the military for 2 years and did not touch the cello, but some hard work and dedication made up for it, so don't despare!!

Finally, on behalf of all the small-people out there - people!!!what happened to the politically correct code? Aren't we size-challenged or something? (Just kidding!). It would be easier to play the cello if i had a larger hand, but hey, c'est la vie!
Yael

Ellen G 
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(8/5/00 9:56:28 am)
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checking in
What, we're not discussing Tony Blair? The Queen's 100th birthday celebration? Being at York Minster for the ringing of the new bell? It's been a very uncellistic week and remains so. However, tomorrow is Wales to see Bryn Terfel!!!! I know, it's not Yo-Yo (hee hee) So David, are we on for pastries next week or not?

Rebecca1234
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(8/5/00 10:31:47 am)
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ok i have a few minutes before i have to go to walmart for another boring 8 hour shift

here we go

I am from canada

My cello's name is Mr. Happy, because one day in orchestra, i took some kids art project of a happy face and stuck it on my cello. Haha u should have seen the conductors face when he saw it...it was priceless hehe

Who wrote the haydn concerto??? me of course!!

Yeeeaaa Canadians!!! Im a canadian, and no i dont live in an igloo and have to ski to school....hehe but i live toronto, everywhere north of toronto lives in igloos, hehe just kidding

Miriam who???

I dont think people with smaller hands play less of a sound, i think they can play a bit faster then people with big hands, but might have a problem with some postions, and they might have to use a lighter bow

I think the price that u charge for lessons, should reflect on how experienced you are. I have had two teachers. One has a bacalers degree from Queens university (in canada), and played with the Niagra Orchestra. She charged about $30 per lesson. The teacher i hvae now, has a masters degree from Yale, and was principal cellist, for a couple of orchestras, and musicals, and he played in New york, but i dont know where. He charges $50 per lesson, and is well worth the money

My fave concerto ( i have three), are the dvorak, elgar, and haydn in C

The best kind of A string, i think is the larsen a string...well thats what i use, hehe

When is Mom coming back????? my mom is coming back later, haha


Oh oh!!! time to go to walmart
bye everyone!!
Rebecca :hat

p.s. word of advice, dont eat chocolate cupcakes for breakfast, they make u extremly hyper!!!!

Steve Drake
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(8/5/00 11:33:54 am)
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So; where's everybody from?
Born in Boston, have lived in Green Bank, West Virginia; LaCanada, California; Ithaca, New York; Arecibo, Puerto Rico; Oberlin, Ohio; Richmond, Virginia; and most recently and longest in Nashville, Tennessee.

What's your cello's name?
I don't have a name I call it, or rather them - it's basically Frirsz cello or chinese cello. Cello A, or cello B.

Who wrote the "Haydn" concerto?
Anton Kraft? Nah, I played a concerto once that was really written by Kraft, and it was REALLY bad.

How 'bout those Canadians?
Personnally, I think a Monte Christo is the best sandwich out there, but a good BLT is hard to beat. Any sandwich with swiss cheese in it is worth eating.

Whatever happened to Miriam Gendron?
Who?

Do people with small hands play with a smaller sound?
Sometimes, but not always. Many people with big hands have a small sound too. Does size count?

How much should I charge for lessons?
At least 100$US, if not more.

What's your favorite concerto?
Walton

What's the best kind of A string?
One that stays in tune and isn't too twangy. I prefer Jargar fortes for this - the larsens are nice, but don't stay in tune as well.

Is Starker a cold player?
I don't think so.

What's all this about a concerto by Korngold?
I was in the pit for a ballet production of Robin Hood, and they borrowed many of the musical ideas from the old Errol Flynn movie, which was composed and orchestrated by Korngold, so we played a ton of Korngold stuff. That was a hard show! This has nothing to do with a cello concerto, except I'm sure it's hard, too.

When is Mom coming back?
How should I know?

Thank you, have a nice day. The check is in the mail. I dug 20 fence post holes yesterday, and won't be able to walk for a week. Only 21 more to go.

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