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Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(8/11/00 3:02:05 pm)

How to get a Strad.
OK, this is a serious question, but there's a lot of flexibility on the replies. Replies can be serious or humorous.

Q. Since I don't have several million dollars to spend, how can I acquire a fine cello like a Stradivarius, Gofriller or Montagnana?

A(s).

1. Win the $60M lotto
2. Convince Bill Gates to be my benefactor
3.
4.
5.


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Len Thompson
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(8/11/00 3:56:36 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad.
You might try becoming a dishonest taxie driver in N.Y. City,and hope that Yo Yo Ma leaves another cello in your trunk!!!!!!

matthias24 
Registered User
(8/11/00 4:02:46 pm)
Ha Ha!!
:lol

~ aaron ~

zambocello
Registered User
(8/11/00 4:03:12 pm)
Just upgrade your current cello.....
......all it takes is paper, glue, and the ability to imitate others' handwriting.

Why shouldn't yours be number 3,196 of Stradivari's 90 cellos?

Liz Schneider
Registered User
(8/11/00 4:25:45 pm)
seriously?
Most of us have read of situations like this: artist is allowed to use a great instrument, loves it and credits it with success, can't buy it, how sad . . . but I'm kind of skeptical about the importance of a musician becoming too preoccupied with an instruments' being name X. I don't want to support that investment market. Will a boycott ever work, to deflate the prices? Let the Strads stay in the hands of nonplaying investors while artists play other very fine but not-famous instruments? Sad, hopefully not too unromantic . . . but maybe it's worthy of discussion among the funnier and more romantic suggestions.

Tim Janof
Registered User
(8/11/00 5:07:02 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad.
There is a Seattle cellist who plays on a $1 million cello and he doesn't own it. He found a bunch of investors to chip in on the price of the cello. I presume that they are willing to do this because they expect the value of the instrument to increase, i.e. they expect to make money when it is re-sold. I would guess that they are impressed by his playing as well. So, I suppose you need to seek out investors.

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(8/11/00 5:38:14 pm)

Re: How to get a Strad.
Good thought Tim,

Here's another way. Win one!

http://www.canadacouncil.ca/archival/ccnews/co9919-e.htm

I wonder if you need to be from "Oh CANANDA?" :b


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Len Thompson
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(8/11/00 5:48:13 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad.
I agree with Liz. I'm sure there are many fine contemporary cellos out there, and it's probably to our advantage to hear more about them( which ones are they, and who made them), rather than dwell endlessly on one particular luthier,whose work only a select few will ever own or play. From what I understand, it seems as though many of Strads original cellos have been reworked to make them playable again, so who's to say they sound just like they did originaly. Anyway, Iv'e never been a fan of hype. What's right and what's good, is what's pleasing to our ears, the rest is dribble. I get a little miffed when I hear some folks say things like "a cello with a bright sound has a violinistic sound", meaning it's a bad thing. I think a cello is violinistic just as a violin is celloistic, they are simular instruments, and to say only cello's with a particular sound are proper, is improper. I could really get going on this, but I'll stop now!
Len

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(8/11/00 5:59:40 pm)

Modern Cellos
Hi Len,

I'm all for fine modern instruments. I'm quite a proponent of them. My last 3 cellos were modern instruments.

There may be some who do "dwell endlessly" on this issue of Strads, Gorfillers and Montagnanas. Not I, I just began to ponder it as kind of a dream today. I certainly wouldn't refuse the opportunity to acquire one, would you? I'm just curious about how some people who can't afford to buy their own instrument (like a Strad) are able to get their hands on one.

Anyway, I've gotten some interesting replies.

One of them was to marry a rich old woman. Too late on that, I married a beautiful, not rich, young lady already.... on to the next idea...being a dishonest NYC Taxi driver? Isn't that a redundancy? :b (sorry, that wasn't very nice, now, was it?)


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Len Thompson
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(8/11/00 6:14:08 pm)
Re: Modern Cellos
Sorry Paul, I didn't mean to get so serious. Your probably right about the taxi drivers in NYC. I wonder if the driver knew the cello was in the trunk, what would he have done? And yes, I would like to own a Strad. And if I did, I'm sure I would let everyone know it was the best cello in the world, bar-none.
Len

Laura Wichers
Registered User
(8/11/00 7:34:01 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad.
I'm surprised no one else offered the obvious answer:

Rob a bank.



-Laura

fabcello 
Registered User
(8/11/00 7:35:38 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad
You know what really makes me mad? When you talk to someone and they think that cellos cost around $100, it's sad! If I had the money, I probably wouldn't buy a Strad, because the money could go towards a more worthy cause, like some poor lad. I hate reading about how collectors buy paintings for piles and piles of cash, when people are dying, living in conditions that are rash. I would probably buy a cello that is just as nice, and has a good sound, but for a cheaper price. I would however, accept a Strad Cello if it were given/loaned to me...Assuming that I am a good enough player to play in Carnegie. I have to go practice, so my teacher won't scream, and afterwards, I will eat some Ice cream (Cookies and Cream).
~Frank~

Laura Wichers
Registered User
(8/11/00 8:04:17 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad
Totally off the subject, but Frank! You should really try some o-cha ice cream. Green-tea flavored. Trust me, it's like nectar of the gods.


-Laura

Rebecca1234
Registered User
(8/11/00 8:31:57 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad.
Hey Paul!!!!!!!


You spelt Canada wrong!!!!!

and if I live in "OH Cananda".......do u live in star spangled banner?????!!!????

hehe just kiddin

:-P
Rebecca

fabcello 
Registered User
(8/11/00 10:12:34 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad.
You could try these:
==================================================
The Stradivari Society
Lends highest-calibre instruments to top-rank artist. (Vadim Repin, Maxim Vengerov, etc.)
410 S. Michigan Avenue, Suite 1028,
Chicago, Il 60605, USA
Tel: 1 312 663 1214
Fax: 1 312 663 0244
==================================================
The Virtu Foundation
Beth Perry, P.O. Box 4274, Charlottesville,
Virginia 22905, USA
Tel: 1 804 445 9404
Fax: 1 804 443 2589
==================================================
N.W. Brown & Co.
Buys high-quality instruments to lend to top-ranking musicians; recipients can buy increasing share of the instrument over a ten-year period.
Richmond House, 16-20 Regent Street,
Cambridge CB2 1DB, UK
Tel: 44 1223 357131
Fax: 44 1223 353705
===================================================
~Frank~

JL Torok 
Registered User
(8/11/00 10:24:12 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad
Laura - that is absolutely my favorite ice cream! You do not exaggerate.

Steve Drake
Registered User
(8/11/00 10:37:34 pm)
Re: How to get a Strad.
Scrape together around 30K, and get Nicholas Frirsz to build you an instrument. Preferably his montagnana model, but he can do a great gofriller model also. He can probably do a strad model too. Trust me, you'll like it better than the famous old name maker, and it'll be paid for in a lot less time!

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David Sanders 
Registered User
(8/12/00 12:49:03 am)
Re: How to get a Strad.
Why do I doubt that he would like any modern instrument better than a Strad?

David Sanders 
Registered User
(8/12/00 12:50:21 am)
Re: How to get a Strad.
It's easy. Bid for one on ebay.
A couple of days after I paid over $100,000 for my Tourte, I saw one on ebay for $8.

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(8/12/00 7:38:04 pm)

Oh Cananda (sp.)
I know I spelled it wrong! :)

For some who might remember a huge scandal I started with a removal of a post....In the removal notice I spelled it wrong this way.

So, I was just kind of poking fun at myself and anyone else who might get the inside joke.

Of course I know how to spell Cananda! :b


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Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(8/12/00 7:40:26 pm)

Re: How to get a Strad.
Thanks Frank,

I'll probably give them a call when (if) I'm up to the level of Vadim Repin and Maxim Vengerov! (Whenever that might be.) :)

Good to know such places exist. It might be fun to get to play on one just for a couple of weeks though.


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          How to get a Strad.-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  -(35)-8/11/00 3:02:05 pm  
               Re: How to get a Strad.-ollec 8/17/00 12:59:44 pm  
               Re: How to get a Strad.-David Sanders  8/12/00 12:50:21 am  
               Re: How to get a Strad.-Steve Drake 8/11/00 10:37:34 pm  
                    Re: How to get a Strad.-dennisw 8/14/00 2:51:47 pm  
                         re: David Finckel's cello-Celie 8/15/00 1:51:05 am  
                              Re: re: David Finckel's cello-justinkagan1  8/15/00 10:41:55 am  
                                   He wasn't when here. . .-Corrina Connor 8/15/00 10:26:16 pm  
                         Re: How to get a Strad.-Steve Drake 8/14/00 10:30:51 pm  
                         Re: How to get a Strad.-fabcello  8/14/00 3:22:26 pm  
                              Frank - re D. Finckel's Cello-Corrina Connor 8/15/00 10:28:19 pm  
                    Re: How to get a Strad.-dennisw 8/14/00 2:51:15 pm  
                    Re: How to get a Strad.-David Sanders  8/12/00 12:49:03 am  
                         like it MORE than a Strad?-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  8/12/00 7:44:32 pm  
                              Cox cello-Bob Blais 8/14/00 8:16:48 pm  
                                   Re: Cox cello-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  8/15/00 12:34:16 pm  
                              New Cello-RonH 8/13/00 12:27:10 pm  
               Re: How to get a Strad.-Rebecca1234 8/11/00 8:31:57 pm  
                    Oh Cananda (sp.)-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  8/12/00 7:38:04 pm  
                    Re: How to get a Strad.-fabcello  8/11/00 10:12:34 pm  
                         Re: How to get a Strad.-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  8/12/00 7:40:26 pm  
                              Re: How to get a Strad-mcello 8/16/00 9:07:50 am  
               Re: How to get a Strad.-Laura Wichers 8/11/00 7:34:01 pm  
               Re: How to get a Strad.-Tim Janof 8/11/00 5:07:02 pm  
                    Re: How to get a Strad.-Len Thompson 8/11/00 5:48:13 pm  
                         Modern Cellos-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  8/11/00 5:59:40 pm  
                              Re: Modern Cellos-Len Thompson 8/11/00 6:14:08 pm  
                                   Re: How to get a Strad-fabcello  8/11/00 7:35:38 pm  
                                        Re: How to get a Strad-Laura Wichers 8/11/00 8:04:17 pm  
                                             Re: How to get a Strad-lblake  8/14/00 6:38:03 pm  
                                             Re: How to get a Strad-JL Torok  8/11/00 10:24:12 pm  
                    Re: How to get a Strad.-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  8/11/00 5:38:14 pm  
               Just upgrade your current cello.....-zambocello 8/11/00 4:03:12 pm  
                    seriously?-Liz Schneider 8/11/00 4:25:45 pm  
               Re: How to get a Strad.-Len Thompson 8/11/00 3:56:36 pm  
                    Ha Ha!!-matthias24  8/11/00 4:02:46 pm  
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