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mcello
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(2/14/01 9:18:36 pm)
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Word of warning regarding strings
As always I waited until about 2 weeks before a big solo performance to order new strings, I typically use the larsen/spirocore combo. Anyway, the a string was defective and when I tried to get another one, I had a horrible time because supposedly jargar is having production problems, so larsens are selling out and several big dealers did not have larsen strings in stock. Thankfully, I called the shop where I bought my cello, they had one a string left, I and talked them into overnighting it to me.

The point of this is to warn anyone else that might be procrastinating as I did, that you might want to allow some extra time for you strings to arrive in the near future. I don't live near any great music stores, so I rely on Shar, Discount Strings, etc. to get my supplies!

RemRem
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(2/15/01 4:16:05 am)
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..and I know where all the Jagar strings dissapear
Last week I saw someone breaking two (Jagar) A strings in three days...and that was an avarage week, I'd say :)

justinkagan1 
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(2/15/01 10:21:57 am)
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Re: Word of warning regarding strings
While I think it's a temporary problem with the Larsen production...yes, they've virtually taken over the market, and I quite happily abandoned Jargar years ago after a rash of breakages attributable to a production defect...even Ideal Music in NYC, surely the largest seller of strings anywhere, had been severely backordered on Larsen Strong A's...I had to take a medium A with the rest of my set. Seems like the Belcanto craze has died down as well. I suspect it's time for the Ginzu Co. or Popeil's (of the pocket fisherman craze)to get into the act.

David Sanders 
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(2/15/01 1:20:31 pm)
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..and I know where all the Jagar strings dissapear
I haven't broken a Jargar string in quite a while now. Just lucky, I think.

Corrina Connor
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(2/15/01 3:21:13 pm)
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my father broke a Jargar string
On my first falling-apart, broken-cornered, Czech Cello there was a Jargar D string. Because the cello had been sitting in a cupboard at the Music School all summer the pegs had swelled astronomically, and the D-string was hanging off the cello.

We asked my father to give the peg a tiny turn to loosen it a bit, but he did his version of a 'tiny turn', and KABANG, BRONG, SPRHGREETIZJ!!! (you may gather it broke) and he's not touched a cello since.

I might add that I've never actually broken a string, although my A-string broke in a lift in June, right before a lesson.

I have a friend who broke two Larsen As in 3 hours once.

RonH
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(2/16/01 12:10:48 am)
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Do they degenerate without using
I have some Larsen A strings, etc. that I keep on hold in case I need them. If they are not strung (or whatever you call it) on the cello, do they still degenerate after a period of time, so that they are not really what you want to use?

rexmeow
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(2/16/01 3:13:27 pm)
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Re: I broke an A too recently .
I just broke a 2nd A Larsen string recently, and I didn't have a spare,lesson here is always carry spare strings like I do now.Otherwise you find yourself trying to play your songs on the D string in absence of the A, which in some cases is impossible and an end to practice. They are actually spare used strings which I keep just in case.My D Larsen string is about to break too, I see the lovely frayed signs and hear the stretching.I put a cheap A string on until winter is thru,my strings sometimes pop out of tune during the cold winter quite a bit, esp. in cold practice rooms which stressed my Larsen A string.My Helicore C and G have never broken.But my violin E string will sometimes break,but not the others.Sometimes I'm afraid to tune the high strings on both,afraid it will break and pop me one,that hurts.

TerryM 
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(2/16/01 4:04:04 pm)
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Another idea
It is a good idea with a new string to put it on the cello for a short period of time to get the initial stretching over with. Once this is done the string will be ready to put on the cello on short notice and will stay in tune more easily. This is especially important if it breaks during a rehearsal or performance. The degree of stretching is related to the type of string used, with some taking longer to stabilize and stay in tune.

Terry

Edited by: TerryM  at: 2/16/01 4:04:04 pm

Dick500
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(2/16/01 4:56:26 pm)
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Re: Degenerate strings
Hey Ron--

Steel core strings like the Larsen A's you mentioned will not go bad in the package. It is the gradual stretching while under tension that makes them go dead after a period of time. So you can keep spares on hand without fear.

Dick Mattson


          Word of warning regarding strings-mcello-(8)-2/14/01 9:18:36 pm  
               Another idea-TerryM  2/16/01 4:04:04 pm  
                    Re: Degenerate strings-Dick500 2/16/01 4:56:26 pm  
               Re: I broke an A too recently .-rexmeow 2/16/01 3:13:27 pm  
               Re: Word of warning regarding strings-justinkagan1  2/15/01 10:21:57 am  
               ..and I know where all the Jagar strings dissapear-RemRem 2/15/01 4:16:05 am  
                    ..and I know where all the Jagar strings dissapear-David Sanders  2/15/01 1:20:31 pm  
                         my father broke a Jargar string-Corrina Connor 2/15/01 3:21:13 pm  
                              Do they degenerate without using-RonH 2/16/01 12:10:48 am  
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