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Dorie Straus 
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(2/17/01 1:13:00 pm)
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I took a bow into my luthier's today for some work and tried a cello they just got in. 1800's Italian. The most beautiful sounding thing I ever played. $12,000. Not this year.

jekerry
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(2/17/01 2:39:07 pm)
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justification
Dorie,

where would you ever find a car for $12,000 ???? How much did you pay for yours? Go buy it! Heck, that's not really that much money. Think about it. You buy a car for 14,000 (entry level at most dealers these days!), drive for it three years, and how much is it worth? $6,000 if you are lucky? Buy that cello and I bet it's worth MORE in three years.

Well, I gave it my best shot.

Jane

Edited by: jekerry at: 2/17/01 2:39:07 pm

Dorie Straus 
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(2/17/01 2:49:14 pm)
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Jane
While washing dishes before you should have heard the numbers clicking and crunching in my head. Everything you said is absolutely true; the car is worth donkey dung in 3 years - the cello... who knows. It was amazing. A better cello than I am a cellist, for sure.

Ellen G 
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(2/17/01 6:01:54 pm)
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Re: Jane
Banks are prepared for the routine auto loan. They are not prepared for the instrument loan. Put wheels on it, say it's a new Italian import, "The Violoncello." Hey, Hyundai has "The Sonata." Vroom Vroom.

jekerry
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(2/17/01 7:14:20 pm)
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Re: Jane
Well, maybe it's just me, but the most recent credit card I got had a $20,000 limit. That with NO INTEREST for a year. Oh boy, we could get ourselves in debt big time thinking like this!

Jane

ruthann
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(2/17/01 7:55:02 pm)
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Re: 'sigh'
Jane, you evil temptress, you! You started me thinking, hey, I never use that one visa card and it has a 15k limit...

cello_suttonr@hotmail.com

Paul Tseng ICS Staff 
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(2/18/01 12:15:54 am)
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Max out your Credit?
Yes, but think of the travel miles you could earn! You could get free tickets for you AND your new cello to that chamber music festival you've been wanting to attend! ;)


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Dorie Straus 
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(2/18/01 6:57:57 am)
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JANE!
I haven't exactly given up on it. At least I slept last night.

Dorie Straus 
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(2/19/01 10:30:51 am)
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Re: JANE!
I'm picking up the cello at 3 today for a week. Our very own Justin is going to try it out and help me with this decision Wednesday afternoon. Without going into my personal finances...let's put it this way: where there is a will there is a friend who is a mortgage banker.

JanJan2
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(2/19/01 11:15:10 am)
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How exciting, Dorie!
Good luck and let us know how you make out! It sounds like love at first sight (well, hearing). And 12K sounds like a pretty good deal. Heck, you can pay that (and more) for good contemporary instruments, and this is an antique AND it's Italian!

Do you know who the maker is?

Janet

me4cello
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(2/19/01 11:18:34 am)
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Oh well done...
may be fate has taken a hand here and it will be your perfect cello. Enjoy the trial, get as many other people to play it that you can too.

Dorie Straus 
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(2/19/01 11:50:27 am)
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Re: How exciting, Dorie!
No I don't know the maker and it may be very hard to find this out. It's also not as old as I understood it to be, got that straight on the phone today. The label inside is incorrect. The person who owned it previously bought it for the label, found out it was incorrect, felt ripped off and fell out of love. By the way, it was not purchased at my luthier's; she bought it from the broken hearted owner.

I know I need help on this so I'm not going it alone. It still comes down to sound, structure and it may not matter if Johnny's friend, Joe's Uncle Tony made it.

I will keep you all abreast of the situation.

Edited by: Dorie Straus  at: 2/19/01 11:50:27 am

karenlee 
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(2/19/01 1:22:53 pm)
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Re: JANE!
How exciting! Did you read the Carter Brey interview? His mom mortgaged the house to replace his $750 cello.

MaryK 
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(2/19/01 1:31:54 pm)
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Re: JANE!
Dorie, that is Fabulous!! I hope it works out for you. Either way, we'll be here for you, so keep us posted!

MaryK

jekerry
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(2/19/01 1:57:22 pm)
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Re: JANE!
Way to go!!! You're an example to us all . . . . I hope it works out for you and after a week you know it was meant to be.

Best,

Jane

Bobbie 
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(2/19/01 2:43:28 pm)
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Oops!

Edited by: Bobbie  at: 2/19/01 2:43:28 pm

Bobbie 
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(2/19/01 2:42:12 pm)
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Re: How exciting, Dorie!
So are you going to put your old cello up for sale? I know someone who might be interested.

Actually, I was going to tell you a story. A friend of mine found her cello while she was still a starving student. She traded in her old one, borrowed money, used every cent she had, borrowed more money, and finally bought it for something around $20K. It's probably worth four times that now, and I don't think she has ever regretted it.

drcello
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(2/19/01 3:03:58 pm)
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The cold, clear voice of reason....
Hey! If you really want to get a better cello, have you actually shopped around? I was in a shop in Des Moines Iowa a few months ago, and they had some fine old cellos in the $6000 range that sounded fabulous. And an old $6000 cello will increase in value, too just as the $12,000 one. Shop around. Might as well get a bargain! Impulse buying can bring grief a few months down the road.

Marshall C. St. John
drcello@mindspring.com
www.waysidechurch.org

Betsy C 
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(2/19/01 5:37:33 pm)
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Dorie!
All the best whichever way this goes. You will make the right choice. In either case, this is exciting!

DWThomas
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(2/19/01 7:13:51 pm)
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Re: JANE!
Wow - what excitement!

Having watched my 401K and one of my IRAs that's in equity funds plummet by multi-thousand buckaroonies during the last half of 2000, maybe cellos would be a much better investment anyway.

Dave


          'sigh'-Dorie Straus  -(19)-2/17/01 1:13:00 pm  
               Dorie!-Betsy C  2/19/01 5:37:33 pm  
               Re: 'sigh'-ruthann 2/17/01 7:55:02 pm  
                    Max out your Credit?-Paul Tseng ICS Staff  2/18/01 12:15:54 am  
               Jane-Dorie Straus  2/17/01 2:49:14 pm  
                    Re: Jane-Ellen G  2/17/01 6:01:54 pm  
                         Re: Jane-jekerry 2/17/01 7:14:20 pm  
               justification-jekerry 2/17/01 2:39:07 pm  
                    JANE!-Dorie Straus  2/18/01 6:57:57 am  
                         Oh well done...-me4cello 2/19/01 11:18:34 am  
                         Re: JANE!-Dorie Straus  2/19/01 10:30:51 am  
                              Re: JANE!-DWThomas 2/19/01 7:13:51 pm  
                              Re: JANE!-jekerry 2/19/01 1:57:22 pm  
                              Re: JANE!-MaryK  2/19/01 1:31:54 pm  
                              Re: JANE!-karenlee  2/19/01 1:22:53 pm  
                              How exciting, Dorie!-JanJan2 2/19/01 11:15:10 am  
                                   Re: How exciting, Dorie!-Dorie Straus  2/19/01 11:50:27 am  
                                        Re: How exciting, Dorie!-Bobbie  2/19/01 2:42:12 pm  
                                             The cold, clear voice of reason....-drcello 2/19/01 3:03:58 pm  
                                        Oops!-Bobbie  -NT 2/19/01 2:43:28 pm  
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