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FAQ # 129

QUESTION  129 :  Mark 12:35-37 clearly shows us a distinction in the Godhead. How is it then the son is the father and the father the son? Or, does this speak of two Yahweh's [Yahovah]?

Remember, the deity of God is a mystery – cannot be understood by earthly intelligence. Therefore, mere reasoning alone cannot fathom his true understanding, it has to be revealed. The understanding that Jesus is God the Father and God the Father is Jesus.

The current teaching on the Trinity makes it clear that there is no subordination in the ‘Godhead.’ Meaning, the alleged ‘three’ all have the same power, attributes, glory and everything being God. For instance, here is a verifiable exert:

"The Trinity refers to the Christian understanding of GOD as a unity of three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. All are equally God and so are one, each sharing in the divine attributes of ultimacy, eternity, and changelessness; yet they are distinguishable in their relations to one another and in their roles within creaturely and human life and destiny" (Grolier Electronic Publishing, Inc., 1995).

Now if the verse in your question was used to back up the concept of a three person trinity we would have enough evidence to dispel it. Why?

Firstly, the verse states, “And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the Son of David? For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool. David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son?” (Mr 12:35-37); which is a quote from Psalms 110:1.

The relationship between “The LORD” and “my Lord” shows us that there is subordination. In other words, “THE LORD,” supposedly God the father is greater than “my Lord,” supposedly God the Son: just by that narration alone.

Here is another verse to show that this clearly implies subordination of persons:

And the chief fathers of the families of the children of Gilead, the son of Machir, the son of Manasseh, of the families of the sons of Joseph, came near, and spake before Moses, and before the princes, the chief fathers of the children of Israel: And they said, The LORD [God] commanded my lord [Moses] to give the land for an inheritance by lot to the children of Israel: and my lord was commanded by the LORD to give the inheritance of Zelophehad our brother unto his daughters.

Is Moses here co-equal with God? No! Moses, “my lord,” was a creature (man) and being a creature he was lesser than God. The translators clearly showed the distinction in the capital “LORD” and lower case “lord” as in Mark 12:35-37, to show subordination. They did it when lord is used twice in the same sentence for God and someone else; also for other deities or dignities. This was clear in the Psalms that it was quoted from.

Does this mean the teaching on the trinity needs to be redone? No, not after  949 years beginning at the Nice council of 325 AD and finishing at the Second Council of Lyons, 1274 A.D.

Man has always failed to comprehend the knowledge of spiritual things, because they have to be revealed. We cannot determine God’s deity by his manifestations, dealings with humanity, visitations and other relation to us. We are finite and being finite, the infinite has to be told to us. That’s the reason the same scripture said, “For David himself said by the Holy Ghost…” Did David understand what he was saying? Could be, but he said it through the spirit of God, to prophesy the coming Messiah. He didn’t say who the Messiah was in that verse. That was to be understood by other prophecies, other prophecies like Isaiah 9:6, “The Mighty God” or more precisely, “God the Father”.

God from the outset of his relationship with humanity made it plain that he is one and there is no one else beside him, neither before him and after him. The only way we can truly understand that Jesus is the one and only God incarnated is through the Holy Ghost. For the Bible did say “no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost” (1 Cor 12:3); just like how David said it “by the Holy Ghost.”

Have you received the baptism of the Holy Ghost, evidence by speaking in another tongue, then don’t doubt this true essential fact that Jesus is the One God incarnate. Not three co-equal or a hierarchy of persons, ONE GOD! ONE PERSON! This is what the devils tremble at – James 2:19.

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