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FAQ # 150
QUESTION 150
: Was God manifested in the flesh
speaking of God the Father or God the Son?
One person said,
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Tim.3:16 “God was manifested in the flesh” (appeared in) 1 Jn.4:2; 2 Jn.
7 “came in the flesh.” 1 Jn.1:2: For “the life was manifested,
and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal
life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto
us.”
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Tim.3:16 says it was God come in the flesh, a person, not just eternal
life that was manifested. Where does it say the Father was manifested
in the flesh? It does not ever say this. The only time a specific person
is mentioned as God being manifested is found in 1 John 3:8, “For this
purpose the Son of God was manifested.” Whereas Oneness
claims that the Father was manifested the Bible makes it clear that specifically
the person of God is the Son, He was the God who was revealed and made
known. This should clarify the issue that if the eternal life that was
manifested was with the Father (1 Jn.1:2) is not a person, then the Son
of God is not a person either. This means the person of God was not
literally manifested in the flesh but something lesser than his actual
nature or identity. If we go back to verse we find this. V.5 “And
you know that HE was manifested to take away our sins.” Here John is identifying
the deity was made known. Who is the “He”?
Jn.1:2
“He was in the beginning with God all things were made
through him... In him was life... From this
we see this life is in a he, which is a person. This he was with
another person and this other made everything through him. Again
in vs.10 “He was in the world, and the world was made through
him. This is the same he and him that is previously
established to be with God, the same he in vs.1 who was with
the Father…The Son … was incarnated (Letusreason.org).
Here we see an
age-old flaw with the Trinity coming to front again, it obvious letusreason.org
don't know of it. That is, the ancient successors of the trinity found
a great flaw in the Trinity and made a mending doctrine to it called Perichoresis
- "The mutual indwelling of the three persons" (Dr. Boyd). That
is, the doctrine of the trinity was flawed because if a pre-existent son
indwelt the human son, then apart of God (allege trinity) was only in
Christ; as against Colossian 2:9, "For in him dwelleth all the fulness
of the Godhead bodily." Thus the doctrine of Perichoresis was needed
to be formulated to solve this and guard against obvious tritheism. In
other words, after seeing another flaw of the trinity theory, instead
of throwing it out altogether, they form another peripheral doctrine to
cover up the error. However, one of the greatest fallacies of Perichoresis
is that three spirits reside in one human body, never said in the scriptures
and even admitted by letusreason.org. This can only be the case of demonic
possession and we know Christ was not demon possessed. So letusreason.org
has only two positions to take:
1)
Say a pre-existent son indwelt Christ and be guilty of
tritheism - belief in three gods. Or,
2)
Change this argument like their predecessor and hold
a to an unbiblical notion that three spirits was in Christ. It's either
of the two, which are both wrong.
The best thing
for them and all Trinitarians to do is, finally come to the fact that
there is no Trinity but one single solitary God, who is spirit (John 4:24),
who incarnate in flesh as Jesus Christ (1 Tim 3:16).
"That is the Bibles final answer!"
Answer
Notes: 1. A stupid back fire
to this would be that if all of God was in Christ as we proclaim, then
there would be none anywhere else, so we are wrong. We didn't proclaim
that, the bible did in Colossian 2:9. The mystery of God is that even
in that state he is omni presently in control. For instance, I can be
in a jacket and fill it, but my hands protrude to handle other stuff,
so does my head and feet (Jer 23:24). As against the trinitarian concept
that one of the members of the unit God was in the jacket, while the other
two was in heaven - unbiblical to Col 2:9. Even worse, they came with
the Perichoresis peripheral doctrine to say, three men were in a jacket.
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