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FAQ # 172

QUESTION  172 :  When you cross-reference Scriptures that show that Jesus is God, you then try to show that Jesus is the Spirit because other verses show that the Holy Spirit is God and you do the same with the Father. Do you see the fallacy in your interpretation? Your thinking runs as follows: 1. Jesus is God. 2. God is the Father 3. Therefore, Jesus is the Father. It is quite easy to do the same thing with any person of the Godhead and form your own belief. This is a logical fallacy. I can do this with apples and oranges. 1. An apple is a fruit. 2. An orange is a fruit. 3. Therefore, an apple is an orange. WRONG! Do you see?

I'm afraid you are leaving out some very KEY words in your process. Let’s stick that apple fruit thinking of yours in the scriptures:

Apple fruit scenario

The Verse

How it still proves one God or that Jesus is God the Father

"Apple is a fruit"

"God is a Spirit..." -John 4:24

Correct, so are angels (Heb 1:14), which here could be grapes. Angels were also ‘gods’ (Gen 6:4, Ex 22:28).

"There is one fruit."  

"There is...one Spirit..." -Ephesians 4:4

That is, one spirit that is “One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all” (Eph 4:5).

"One and the selfsame fruit."    

"One and the selfsame Spirit..." 1 Cor. 12:11 

That is, that One God and father of all who “hath many members [different fruits], and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ” (1 Cor 12:12). One God who is spirit that made other spirits – Angel spirits, Seraphim spirits, human spirits and others. That is, one fruit who has many fruits. Similar to how in the resurrections there shall be “the tree of life [one], which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month” (Rev 22:2). If a seed from a fruit of that tree supposedly fell in the ground and grew, it wouldn’t be a tree of that particular fruit, but a tree that bear twelve fruits, as with the tree that it came from. One fruit bearing other fruits.

"Now, the apple is that fruit."   

"Now the Lord [Jesus] is that Spirit..." -2 Cor. 3:17

That is, the spirit who is “One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all” (Eph 4:5) is Jesus. He is the master Spirit of all spirits; “the God of the spirits of all flesh” (Num 16:22, 27:16). He is the apple – Father!

"Johnny apple, he is apple of all."  

"...Jesus Christ (He is Lord of all)" -Acts 10:36

Undisputable so and therefore distinguishable from other spirits, angel spirits and human spirits, (grapes and bananas); being the master Spirit or father of all spirits.

"The first principle is the apple our fruit is one apple." 

"THE FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS, Hear, O Israel; THE LORD (JESUS) OUR GOD IS ONE LORD..." -Mark 12:29

In other words, you don’t have many apples (God the Spirit) like how you have many grapes (Angelic Spirits) or many bananas (Human spirits). There is only one apple, one God the spirit, the same is “Father of spirits” (Heb 12:9) and the only begotten of the Father (John 3:16).

 
In last box above, Paul tells us that God (fruit- apple) is the father of spirits (fruits- grapes and bananas) and thus father of us all (Heb 12:9).

Remember, “to us there is but one God, the Father” (1 Cor 8:16) and as Jesus said, “for one is your Father, which is in heaven”  (Matt 23:9). But when Phillip asked him to show him the father, he clearly told him, “Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip?” (John 14:9). In other words, I Jesus the father has been with you in the flesh, but you have not known me. Similar to when he said to Israel, “I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me” (Isa 45:5). So you see that however it is put, Jesus is God and Jesus is the Father.

{Source: The question and certain narrations are from 1lord1faith}

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