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FAQ # 172
QUESTION 172 : When
you cross-reference Scriptures that show that Jesus is God, you then try
to show that Jesus is the Spirit because other verses show that the Holy
Spirit is God and you do the same with the Father. Do you see the fallacy
in your interpretation? Your thinking runs as follows: 1. Jesus is God.
2. God is the Father 3. Therefore, Jesus is the Father. It is quite easy
to do the same thing with any person of the Godhead and form your own
belief. This is a logical fallacy. I can do this with apples and oranges.
1. An apple is a fruit. 2. An orange is a fruit. 3. Therefore, an apple
is an orange. WRONG! Do you see?
I'm afraid you are leaving out some very
KEY words in your process. Let’s stick that apple fruit thinking of yours
in the scriptures:
Apple fruit scenario
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The Verse
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How it still proves one God or that Jesus is God the Father
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"Apple
is a fruit"
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"God
is a Spirit..." -John 4:24
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Correct,
so are angels (Heb 1:14), which here could be grapes. Angels were
also ‘gods’ (Gen 6:4, Ex 22:28).
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"There
is one fruit."
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"There
is...one Spirit..." -Ephesians 4:4
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That
is, one spirit that is “One God and Father of all, who is above
all, and through all, and in you all” (Eph 4:5).
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"One
and the selfsame fruit."
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"One
and the selfsame Spirit..." 1 Cor. 12:11
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That
is, that One God and father of all who “hath many members [different
fruits], and all the members of that one body, being many, are
one body: so also is Christ” (1 Cor 12:12). One God who is spirit
that made other spirits – Angel spirits, Seraphim spirits, human
spirits and others. That is, one fruit who has many fruits. Similar
to how in the resurrections there shall be “the tree of life [one],
which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every
month” (Rev 22:2). If a seed from a fruit of that tree supposedly
fell in the ground and grew, it wouldn’t be a tree of that particular
fruit, but a tree that bear twelve fruits, as with the tree that
it came from. One fruit bearing other fruits.
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"Now,
the apple is that fruit."
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"Now
the Lord [Jesus] is that Spirit..." -2 Cor. 3:17
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That
is, the spirit who is “One God and Father of all, who is above
all, and through all, and in you all” (Eph 4:5) is Jesus. He is
the master Spirit of all spirits; “the God of the spirits of all
flesh” (Num 16:22, 27:16). He is the apple – Father!
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"Johnny
apple, he is apple of all."
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"...Jesus
Christ (He is Lord of all)" -Acts 10:36
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Undisputable
so and therefore distinguishable from other spirits, angel spirits
and human spirits, (grapes and bananas); being the master Spirit
or father of all spirits.
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"The
first principle is the apple our fruit is one apple."
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"THE
FIRST OF ALL THE COMMANDMENTS IS, Hear, O Israel; THE LORD (JESUS)
OUR GOD IS ONE LORD..." -Mark 12:29
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In
other words, you don’t have many apples (God the Spirit) like
how you have many grapes (Angelic Spirits) or many bananas (Human
spirits). There is only one apple, one God the spirit, the same
is “Father of spirits” (Heb 12:9) and the
only begotten of the Father (John 3:16).
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In
last box above, Paul tells us that God (fruit- apple) is the father of
spirits (fruits- grapes and bananas) and thus father of us all (Heb 12:9).
Remember,
“to us there is but one God, the Father” (1 Cor 8:16) and as Jesus said,
“for one is your Father, which is in heaven”
(Matt 23:9). But when Phillip asked him to show him the father,
he clearly told him, “Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast
thou not known me, Philip?” (John 14:9). In other words, I Jesus the father
has been with you in the flesh, but you have not known me. Similar to
when he said to Israel, “I am the LORD, and there is none else, there
is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me”
(Isa 45:5). So you see that however it is put, Jesus is God and Jesus
is the Father.
{Source:
The
question and certain narrations are from 1lord1faith}
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