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FAQ # 174

QUESTION  174 :  Why did Jesus differentiate between Himself and the Father, for example John 8:26-27?

"I have many things to say and to judge of you: but HE THAT SENT ME is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him” (Jn 8:27). They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.

I didn't say Jesus didn't differentiate. The question is, what is the meaning or DEFINITION of the differences AS SPECIFICALLY, EXPLICITLY SCRIPTURALLY STATED?

1 Corinthian 12:4 tells us this, "Now there are diversities of gifts, but THE SAME Spirit. 5 And there are DIFFERENCES OF ADMINISTRATIONS, but THE SAME Lord. 6 And there are DIVERSITIES OF OPERATIONS, but it is THE SAME God which worketh all in all... 11 But ALL THESE WORKETH THAT ONE AND THE SELFSAME SPIRIT, dividing to every man severally as he will."

If these differences are "separate persons" why did not Paul say so? Why did not the church recognize this until hundreds of years AFTER THE APOSTLES?

"When one does speak of an unqualified Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century... From what has been seen thus far, the impression could arise that the Trinitarian dogma is in the last analysis a late 4th century invention. In a sense this is true... The formulation 'one God in three persons' was not established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title 'the Trinitarian dogma'"-The New Catholic Encyclopedia pgs. 295-305.

Like it or not, it was not with Jesus or the apostles that the Trinity doctrine entered the church. It was by pagan philosophers attempting to COMPROMISE their pagan beliefs with Christianity-

"The Holy Trinity- the basis for the doctrine of the Trinity... The question as to how to reconcile the encounter with God in this threefold figure (The Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit) with faith in THE ONENESS OF GOD, which WAS THE JEWS' AND CHRISTIANS' CHARACTERISTIC MARK OF DISTINCTION over against paganism, agitated the piety of ancient Christendom in the deepest way... This question was ANSWERED IN THE NEOPLATONIC METAPHYSICS of being... CHRISTIAN THEOLOGY TOOK THE NEOPLATONIC METAPHYSICS of substance as well as its doctrine of hypostasis as THE DEPARTURE POINT for interpreting the relationship of the 'Father' to the 'Son'..." -Encyclopedia Britannica, 1974, 15th edition, vol. 4, page 485.

{Source: Tom R.}

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