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FAQ # 200

QUESTION  200 :  Does Prov 30:4 speak of a separate being pre-existing as the son who is Jesus Christ?

As I’ve clearly said throughout these FAQ's, it is best to read the verses before/after the verse, even the chapter and not just the single verse alone. Most often, you'll get the meaning. It reads,

“The words of Agur the son of Jakeh, even the prophecy: the man spake unto Ithiel, even unto Ithiel and Ucal, Surely I am more brutish than any man, and have not the understanding of a man. I neither learned wisdom, nor have the knowledge of the holy. Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell?” (Pro 30:1-4).

What did it say and what do many fail to acknowledge? That is, the opening thesis, “even the prophecy.” It clearly stated that this was a prophecy; which most often uses things that are not literally meant, but the message clearly seen. Also, the way in which it is written shows that the word prophecy meant that what he was speaking was by divine inspiration. Even then, speaking by divine inspiration meant that he spoke what is not always understood naturally or at the moment; it is often concealed, until revealed. For instance, “David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool" (Mark 12:36). Here David spoke under the inspiration of the Holy Ghost, but not necessarily that he nor any hearers understood what he spoke. Though from Moses days the Jews were always expectant of the Messiah, not just in Agur’s days. That's why the scripture noted in David's case, which is always the case, "David himself said by the Holy Ghost." We could have only understood this prophecy after Pentecost - when God became a man, sat and mediated, then will be revealed in his glory as the father. They are 24 chief beings around God’s throne continually and four mighty ones called Seraphim. They all pre-existed with God before man and the human Christ. It could have been anyone of them, but the mere fact Jesus is called Emmanuel (God with us), meant that he is the very God come in flesh; not another pre-existed being or allege person of an allege trinity.

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