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FAQ # 236

QUESTION  236 :  One verse reads, "To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne" (Revelation 3:21). Seeing that Jesus and the father are the same person and we will see that in the resurrection clearly, does it mean we are also the father? For if Jesus sat down with his father on his throne means they are the selfsame person, then we sitting down with Jesus on his throne would mean we are the selfsame person as Jesus, or the father. Wouldn't it, hence Jesus is not the father?

One person said on another subject that can be applied here, "there is not an actual move in space as the anthropomorphic expression, "right-hand," would cause us to conceive. Rather than a space-position move, there will be an authority-position move. The son will inherit the Father's throne, the Father's prerogatives and the Father's identity. He will be revealed as God, all and in all." With us, that would mean we inherit the Son's throne, the Son's prerogatives and the Son's identity as Sons of God, as Jesus is the Son of God; and he moves to his known position as God the Father. That's the reason the scripture tells us that "it doth not yet appear what we shall be" (1 John 3:2). So what Jesus is right now, in all his power and authority, we have it as his Sons; or more precisely, his firstborns (James 1:18), higher than even angels. He moves up, we move up. His temporary role changes, our permanent nature changes. That’s why God the father came in flesh as Christ, to redeem and exalt us as his Sons; he being the first example, or second Adam. Also, they are in fact several thrones (figuratively) for chief spirit beings that commune with God; namely the 24 elders. Similar to a King’s throne on earth, they are other seats or thrones about him, for the Queen and his trusted counselors. But there is one throne that pertains to the King. There is one throne, figuratively, that pertains to God in heaven. Not three thrones for three persons as God, or one throne with three persons sitting on each other, so to speak. This throne and glory God will share with no one (Isa 42:8), so if Christ has it, it means he is God the Father who came to redeem us.

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Referring to unity, I could say Mr. McQuick (street evangelist) and his church brethren (street evangelists) are lovers, which is completely different from me saying Mr. McQuick (husband) and Mrs. McQuick (wife) are lovers. But isn’t lovers used here in a similar way but means something different when different subjects/titles are involved? With his wife it is intimate, with his church brethren it is platonic.

Therefore, when it speaks of Jesus sitting down with his father, it means the oneness of God - selfsame person in different manifestations (1 Tim 3:16). That is, the one God who is spirit (John 4:24), deemed father, is enfleshed as Christ the Son (Matt 11:27). When it speaks of us sitting down with Jesus or the father (or both), it denotes a united oneness; as we share in the glory of the Son.

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