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Soxy wisped: 50 royals for everything on vygotskys corpse

EnUnE wisped that he woos.

Soxy wisped: 50 royals, she is in the oasis

Breathe wisped: So....why don't you do it yourself?

Soxy wisped: not pk

Wobin wisped: Err... That's a bit nasty for a NPK Soxy...

Paranoia wisped: Don't be mean^-^

Paranoia wisped: Being bitchy only gets you this far------>

Soxy wisped: she waited for me to be disarmed then stole my warhammer

Paranoia wisped: Being nice gets you this far-------------------------->

Wobin wisped: You're comitting a horribly NPK/PK interaction...

Breathe wisped: Well there you go then Soxy. ;oP Got pk and do your own dirty work. ;o)

Paranoia wisped: See the difference? bigger arrows!

EnUnE wisped: Yep. But selling the stuff gets you ----------------> that far. *wink*

Soxy wisped: 5o royals

Paranoia wisped: All she has on her corpse is a pence.. I'l bring it to you>:D

Soxy wisped: she has lots of stuff

Soxy wisped: east side of oasis, i will shield you

Soxy wisped: 100 royals then

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(Wizards) Soxy wisps: btw people, vygotsk is a common gutter thief

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: why, what he do

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: will steal your items when you get disarmed, remember that next time the election comes around

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Yeah, we heard. I was quite surprised a wizard that old would do such a lowly thing as stealing your warhammer you've fumbled.

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: Hehe.

(Wizards) Iono wisps that he ponders...

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: thats pretty rude, especialy from a fellow wizzie

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: she actually waited till i attacked 2 hermits

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps that he frowns

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: that's low, real low.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: even worse, she then gets cres to protect her

(Wizards) Arkham wisps: Well she did make an offer to return it for silence at least.

(Wizards) Evox wisps: DOing that is low even for a thief really.

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: haha, thats just pussy :p

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: That I did. %)

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: He said no, unfortunately.

> MiKasa Moonbeam tells you: I've told him to leave you alone til admin deals with it.

You thank MiKasa Moonbeam.

(Wizards) Evox wisps: There shouldn't be any bargains. You should've just returned it (you shouldn't have taken it to begin with)

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Vy's not low!

> (Wizards) YoshI wisps: if she did that, yes she is

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: shes as low as they come

YoshI wisps: shes as low as they come

> (Wizards) Evox wisps: Well, looks like Vy's creator freinds gagged Soxy now. That's even lower.

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Hey, want to hear a dirty joke?

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Not even letting Soxy voicing his opinion in the case.

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: wow, vygotsk's pet creator just gagged him so he cant chat anymore :p

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: they can't gag us all, Evox :)

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: well...they could...:p

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: I don't believe I even know the cre I spoke to about Soxy's behaviour.

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: But thanks for jumping to conclusions. %)

> (Wizards) Evox wisps: Hehe. But then there woudln't be a point for the wizard channel.

(Wizards) Arkham wisps: The Limbo possibly?

(Wizards) Evox wisps: I actually didn't think creators were supposed to interfere with our matters like this. Low low low if you ask me.

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps that he nods in agreemen

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Ah, just be quiet.

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: ill be quite when vy does the right things, returns his hammer

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: if I start whinging about Evox pushing me off the Tower of Art, do I get gagged? :p

(Wizards) Aight wisps: quiet? er, who's telling dirty jokes

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Well, if we're quite that means in a way that we think it's just okay for Vy and her creator friends to do as they plase. Where is the justice in that?

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: Good lord.

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps that he raises a mob

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: What are you people on?

(Wizards) MiKasa wisps: Evok would you like to post a complaint on the board as well :)

(Wizards) Arkham wisps: good lord? Woo we've gone beyond creators now =)

(Wizards) Evox wisps: What are you on really? Sure this is a game, but that doesn't mean people should go about and doing as they please all the time.

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: lol

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: I'm gonna sit in the temple of Gapp and snatch people's stuff as they put it on the altar...:p

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Hehe. Perhaps =)

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: Hey, good idea. *plots*

> (Wizards) Iono wisps: Good for you Jack!

(Wizards) MiKasa wisps: no one is 'doing as they please. The situation is being dealt with.

(Wizards) Aight wisps: hey, not a bad idea JackD ;)

(Wizards) Evox wisps: If it continues. Of course this is the kind of thinks the AM council is for I suppose. =)

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: then I'm gonna get a load of newbies to come bungeeing with me off the Tower..then I'm gonna....:p

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Ooo, sounds good Jack!

> (Wizards) Aight wisps: GO JackD, Go!

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: what, dealt with as in gagging Soxy and 'that's the end of *that* chapter'?

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: if its being dealt with, is vy being asked to give soxy his hammer back

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Its a friggin' hammer!

> (Wizards) Aight wisps: but who'd wanna do THAT w a hammer ??

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: it's an $850 hammer, Iono, and it's also the principle...

> (Wizards) Evox wisps: It's a Ornate Warhammer. They cost $780 each in the T-shop.

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Ah, yes. $850 it was.

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Well, I get ornates and rets stolen all the time...

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: argh I muffed up my alias and I'm now lost in the library :(

> (Wizards) MiKasa wisps: if anyone feels they are being or have been harrassed, the best thing to do is to make a complaint on the complaints board asking admin to look into it. It's the job of admin to handle complaints of harrassment. If anyone feels unfairly treated, they, too, can post a complaint or mail admin. Can we let them deal with the subject?

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Yes, stolen by thieves, but waiting till you fumble and then stealing it is very low. Not even thieves do that (normally).

(Wizards) Iono wisps: You obviously don't know many thieves.

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: i dunno, jorko snatched mine

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: Evox, you don't know anything about what happened, I would appreciate it if you would stop judging me by facts you've fabricated. %)

> (Wizards) Iono wisps: And he isn't even a feef.

(Wizards) Evox wisps: True, but still. A wizard shouldnt stoop so low to do that. It's against the spirit of the rules even.

(Wizards) Nif wisps: Anyway - player killers have their own justice.... If one thinks they have been badly done to, they kill for revenge. That's what it's about, right?

(Wizards) Iono wisps that he grins evilly.

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: shes pk, and soxy isn't pk

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Well, I've heard what you and Socy been talking about. You havn't claimed anything of Soxy's story to be wrong in any way...

(Wizards) YoshI wisps: there is a reason u have to become pk to steal from other playerz

(Wizards) Evox wisps: But true I don't knwo exactly how it happened. But since Soxy has been gagged and can't voice his case....

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Have your creator friend ungag Soxy and I'll shut up ;)

(Wizards) Aight wisps: oh for a High Judge...

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: I don't know who gagged Soxy, and I certainly did not request for it to be done.

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: did I mention I@m lost in the library? :p

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: And I would not be publically passing judgement on you if I did not know all the facts.

> (Wizards) Iono wisps: Brothers. Sisters. No need to get anger. Can't we all just get along? *smiles sweetly*

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: woo no I'm not anymore :p

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps that he thanks his lucky stars

(Wizards) Maglore wisps: yeah, but did you find the new spells?

(Wizards) Nif wisps: I only found 1 of the new spells.... in the gym

(Wizards) Evox wisps: But it's no the theft anymore really Vy, but the fact that you had a creator gagging Soxy. Why won't you let him voice his opinion and try to argue with himthat youare right.

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: HarHarHarHAR! COKAmARSH!

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: ok Evox you've made your point. let's take this to tells shall we? :)

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Yeah, yeah. I've just gotten worked up here. You can't expect me to stop when I'm up in gear now? ;o>

(Wizards) MiKasa wisps: vygotsk was not involved in any way with soxy being gagged. You are misinformed.

(Wizards) Jarman wisps: how new are theis spells?

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Ok, this subject is getting boring...Next!

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: so why *was* Soxy gagged? (JD, intermediary and hypocrite :p )

(Wizards) Evox wisps: Okay, okay. I'll shut up then. I just don't like the whole thing though about creators stopping people from talk is all.

> (Wizards) MiKasa wisps: Evox, thank you. :)

(Wizards) Iono wisps that he cheers.

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Ok, lets talk b'out....the latest wizard fashion!

(Wizards) Arkham wisps: I've heard hammers are in. Umm no, forget that.

(Wizards) Juju wisps: 'bout

> (Wizards) Iono wisps: Well, recently, I found this most beautiful robe with luvly sequins on it. Very pwetty.

(Wizards) Iono wisps: And it had furry lining on the inside, so you don't get chilling in the winter.

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps that he struts!

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(Wizards) Emknaps wisps: what scrying bonus is needed to cast the scry spell?

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: more than scry

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: Around 300, according to PaRaNoIa.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: shut up looter

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: I fail at 250. %)

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: Soxy!

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps that he welcomes Soxy and his stoopid TM dance back to the channel :p

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: woo gl 280

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: urrr you feel something brush your mind, did someone use the new scry on me

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps: Probably a fly flew in one of your ears, and out the other.

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: woo, you can detect yourself being scried?

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: well i dont know, did someone new scry me or not

(Wizards) Emknaps wisps: i already said i did...

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: ahhh ok, wonder what skill made me see it

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: ma.me.detecting.new.redundant.spells?

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: not everyone has a ball, plus you dont see a distortion and dont loose con

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: its a fun use, thats ok

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(Wizards) Soxy wisps: can shadows force an election for a new senior, surely they dont want a gutter feef as there head?

> (Wizards) Paranoia wisps: Who's the shadows senior?=)

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: vygotsk

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: What's wrong with Vygotsk?^-^

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: she is a gutter feef

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: well she is a lot of things, but i cant use those words on the talker

(Wizards) Ellaron wisps: nothing is wrong with Vygotsk.

(Wizards) Nif wisps: Oh, shut up, Soxy.

You thank Ellaron Lirralorn.

(Wizards) Ellaron wisps: beats being a loser assassin :-)

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: so stealing fumbled warhammers is ok with you ellaron? nice to know

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: 'sl0t'?!

Ellaron Lirralorn bows to you.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: so are you gutter feef too then ellaron?

> (Wizards) Drakkos wisps: Drop it, Soxy.

(Wizards) Nif wisps: It's no wonder soxy was gagged.

(Wizards) Ellaron wisps: Soxy don't start with me, I have no patience with you at all.

(Wizards) Drakkos wisps: This is not the place for your personal vendettas.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: nothing to do with you drakkos, people can vote out seniors who stoop that low

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: My house has a stoop^-^

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: so another cre sticking up for a scumbag

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: its ok for people to steal fumbled warhammers but not ok to say anthing about them for doing it

(Wizards) Arkham wisps: Erm no, Drakkos wasnt standing up for you?

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: so is the behaviour of senior wizards of relevence to their order or not?

(Wizards) Nif wisps: Shut it soxy.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: another one standing up for scummy acts

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: nice to see where peoples morals lie

(Wizards) Nif wisps: Just tired of whinging from someone *obviously* not mature enough to be a senior. Perhaps they should revote for your order....

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: Soxy, I personally agree with what you're saying, but I think it's tim eyou let it go..mail a complaint to a liaison :)

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: vy got in first and complained to liasons about harrasement when i did exactly the same thing she did

(Wizards) Nif wisps: So you are no better, and should shut up

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: and again, i am being hassled by a cre for calling vygostk what she is

(Wizards) Nif wisps: Someone *please* gag soxy!

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: Soxy, I personally agree with what you're saying, but I think it's tim eyou let it go..mail a complaint to a liaison :)

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: the liason already said its part of the game, tough, but she has complained so if you do it back you will be in the poo

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: btw makes a joke of her being a recruiter for fortesques pk club, the one against looting

You say: I don't believe I'm a recruiter for that club, actually.

You say: He should get his information straight.

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: Chacun son gout.

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: leave him jack, its fasinating to see his morals

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: Soxy is aggrieved, feels unhelped by a liaison and he's come to his fellow wizzies for support...isn't that what it's about?

(Wizards) Arkham wisps: go mail admin :P just stop the whineing and harassing of us as nif said.

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: what's that mean Vy, each to his own?

(Wizards) Nif wisps that he laughs

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: if you don't want to chat with your fellow wizzies, may I suggest 'talker delete wizards'?

> (Wizards) Nif wisps that he thanks arkham

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: or, alternatively, 'ignore jackdaniels and soxy and evox and every othe wiz offended by low-level acts'?

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: wouldnt it be fantasic if all the cres who are giving me crap would tell vy to give the hammer back instead

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: i am not allowed to call her a gutter feef, but she still has the hammer

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: soxy if you were PK I would call it just dishonourable, but as you're NPK I call it downright lousy

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Jack, can you just never it....let the Liaisons, Soxy and Vy work it out themselves.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: and its not the first time, i wouldnt be supprised if she has already put the log on her web page, go see how funny she thought killing my cat was

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: the liasons have already taken vys side

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: Hehe, that was pretty funny.

(Wizards) Braxus wisps: that was pretty funny

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: to my understanding, the liaisons have worked it out..to an unsatisfactory conclusion....

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: you seen any cres on her saying what vy did was a scumbag act, seen plenty having a go at me though

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps: What she did was a bad thing. A low thing, and I'd be annoyed.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: thank you db :-)

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps that he cheers for DB

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps: What you are doing is low, bad and annoying.

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps: Now hush, or I'll set your guild to witch.

(Wizards) Nif wisps: All we've seen is *you* whinging, soxy, but it's between you and her, sort it out in private.

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps: Or theif.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: its politics, people have a right to know about the behaviour of people in office

(Wizards) Emknaps wisps: heh, want to make me a witch? i'ld get some decent primaries then :)

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: its no private, she is setting the standards for her order, and its worked, nif is fully supporting it

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: sometimes people have to go to great lengths to make themselves heard. Is Soxy just supposed to let it go? I wouldn't....

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: i did the same thing, when pepsi corpse looted and lanfear supported him

(Wizards) Iono wisps: Omg, take it to tells, please.....you lot are slowly killing the rest of us! :P

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: no one but the scumbags like this sort of stuff, but when someone speaks out about it they get hassled for it

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: nothing wrong with having principles. I'd want the same support if some git buggered off with a valuable item of mine...

(Wizards) Evox wisps that he starts to winder whatever happend to morale and decency on the MUD.

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: You're failing to mention many of the things you did to me after the fact, Soxy. It's actually very likely that I would have returned it after tormenting you for a few minutes; however, for instance, you offered 100 royals on the talker to the first person to loot my corpse bare.

> (Wizards) Paranoia wisps: But unfortunately I couldn't get there quick enough!

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps that he points Iono to 'talker delete wizards', or 'ignore jackdaniels and evox and soxy'

(Wizards) vygotsk wisps: That gave me no incentive to return it. I hope you have a nice night. %)

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: i may not put my point accross properly, but the point is we have a senior wizard who will steal fumbled items

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: and that offer still stands btw

(Wizards) Nif wisps: Careful soxy, I did not say i supported anybodies actions, I merely think, like a lot of others, that you should take this *ELSEWHERE*

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: no, you have supported her

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: Soxy, don't lower yourself to that. encourage corpse looting, and you make youself a hypocrite.

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: vy, why get the hammer in the first place? it wasn't yours...

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: yes para, assuming she hasnt vaulted everything

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: Damn Damn Dman!

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: I was so close:<

(Wizards) Batty wisps: naughty Paranoia :)

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: she actually stood in the square for minutes waiting for me to attack 2 hermits, knowing i would fumble it

> (Wizards) Paranoia wisps: What is yours then almight Soxy?^^

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: only 222 but i have never advanced it past 50

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: oops 232, had a few tms

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: So don't be so quick to criticize me, before looking to yourself=)

> (Wizards) Iono wisps: I'm going now....the pointless crap here is too annoying...cya!

(Wizards) Nif wisps: Couldn't agree more, Iono, and it's all Soxy's fault.

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: bah, i missed the main bits?

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: hmm isn't what is effectively PK stealing from NPKs a banishable offence?

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: someone get rowdy again ;)

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps that he once again, points Nif to the choice of 'talker delete' and 'ignore ' commands.

> (Wizards) Batlin wisps: jackdaniels, when anyone can take advantage of someone fumbling things etc and loot it and have nothing happen, i doubt its considered a banishable offence

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: urrr iono forget to mention that she had a good giggle with vi over it all, i dont think people realise what you can see when the use emotes

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: didn't shara lose her thieves daggers to an npk like that and have no way of gettin em back?

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: but it's against the whole PK/NPK principle..if you want to risk being thefted from by other players, you go PK. NPKs are supposed to be afforded some protection from others.

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: I got in trouble for killing a pk one day=(

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: thats the problem batlin, vy gets away with it, yet if you try for revenge, you get in the poo

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: I mean Npk=d

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: i killed a non pks pet the other day, killed myself too though

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: But this was an actual npk^-^

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: btw, dont use eha if a dragon is in the room

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: maybe if you tried a less obviously against the rules method of revenge?

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: there is a great rule, pks can interfere with non pks, but non pks cant interfere with pks

> (Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: yeah, that pretty much sounds like it..

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: soxy, remember what i just said about shara? :)

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: a npk, took here thief's daggers when she fumbled them. there was nothing she could do. the end

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: ..her ;)

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps: Yeah, everything here sucks. Just quit your bitching, or piss off somewhere else? Just give us some peace and quiet, ffs.

(Wizards) Braxus wisps: i don't recall you getting in any trouble for giving money to a pk to place a contract for you soxy

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: language DB!

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: stop bitching about bitching, dogbolter ;)

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps: Oh, and yes. I'm swearing. And that's bad, and yes it's one rule for a cre, and one for everyone else. Bite me.

> (Wizards) Evox wisps: But why should it have to be like that Batlin? Just cause one person had a bad turn doesn't mean it should be like that for everyone.

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: and stop bitching about language! bah

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: actually i did, but again, they can kill my pet, but i cant then get revenge

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: urrr you can turn wizards back off db :-)

> (Wizards) Soxy wisps: and anyway before this all got heated, my point was that if a shadow doesnt like there senior wizards behaviour then they can vote them out

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: are you a shadow? noooo..

(Wizards) Trespasser wisps: what about our order?can we vote soxy out?

> (Wizards) Batlin wisps: i am, and i don't have any problems with my senior wizard's behaviour :)

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: i said if a shadow doesnt like it, if they are happy having gutter feefs as there head then fine

> (Wizards) Batlin wisps: but you're not our head soxy ;)

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: so are you saying piss off and leave shadow affairs to shadows? soxy's making you aware, and if you wanna ignore it, then I'd be wary of any shadow if I ever got fumbled...like one, like all...

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: you can trespasser, though people knew what i was like when they voted for me, i doubt most shadows knew what vy was like

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: its odd, all 3 shadows to speak up so far have supported vy, remember that when choosing your orders newbies

(Wizards) Drakkos wisps: Okay kids, everyone is getting a little heated here, so let's just smile, nod, thank each other for a nice debate, and move on to nicer subjects.

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps: Drakkos gagged me!

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: lol

> (Wizards) Drakkos wisps: I felt it was neccessary, in light of your behaviour.

(Wizards) Drakkos wisps: *sniffs*

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: oh, and leave the pk club is this is the behaviour they endorse

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: yeah ok, like one, like all, we should be wary!

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps that he casts Grisald's Chilly Touch on himself.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: you cant :-(

> (Wizards) Drakkos wisps: Besides, you looked so cute all tied up like that.

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: ooh can you probe yourself

(Wizards) Dogbolter wisps that he suspends Drakkos.

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: what's grisald's blah?

(Wizards) Drakkos wisps: Hooray!

(Wizards) Paranoia wisps: How am I supposed to not be heated then?!

(Wizards) Batlin wisps: and what's probe?

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: bugger, you cant probe yourself :-(

(Wizards) JackDaniels wisps: no you can't probe yourself..well not in that sense :p

(Wizards) Batty wisps: I tried casting chilly touch on me, and Certain Parts shrank in the cold

(Wizards) Soxy wisps: or scry yourself, these new spells are useless to self abusers

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> (Apex) Chowmein wisps: Hrm, nice history.

(Apex) Chowmein wisps: Felt like running for banishment, Soxy?

(Apex) Soxy wisps: so an pk can steal off a non pk, but the non pk cant try to get there items back, the rule has to apply both ways, plus it isnt a rule, its only pks what whine about it

(Apex) Chowmein wisps: I don't care. I find any pk trying to do anything like that then that pk could have a very nasty disc life.

(Apex) Nevvyn wisps: S'not steling, you dropped it.

> (Apex) Nevvyn wisps: IT's bad form, but s'not stealing.

(Apex) Soxy wisps: wont be stealing when they get it off vys corpse, its just lying there

(Apex) Soxy wisps: as i said, works both ways

(Apex) vygotsk wisps: I told you I'd give it back if you requested a permanent gag from the talker. It's not my fault you refused. %P

(Apex) Chowmein wisps: Corpse looting's worse. It's not her fault you can't go pk to try and get it back.

(Apex) vygotsk wisps that she turns off the channel.

> (Apex) Nevvyn wisps: IT's not stealing if they get it off the ground after the corpse has decayed, but take it off the corpse, and it is stealing.

(Apex) Chowmein wisps: It's yours.

Soxy wisped: so, pks are allowed to steal, and allowed to sell what they steal

Soxy wisped: pks who give shit to non pks cant hide behind that

Rumour wisped: *laughs*

GlennRidge wisped: *hits people with rowlocks*

Soxy wisped: she gave up her rights when she did it

Nevvyn wisped: Language!

Souzanne wisped: watch the language... and let it die

Chowmein wisped: Personally I don't care what crap you're spurting, but if I find any pk considering looting someone for money, they better be prepared for living hell.

Soxy wisped: but pks stealing non pks stuff doesnt bother you at all chow?

Soxy wisped: so much for morals

Souzanne wisped: no one stole from you soxy... you DROPPED it, now hush.

Soxy wisped: you going to give vy the same hard time for breaking the code

Chowmein wisped: There's a lot of things that bother me, one of them is your habit of a) not listening, b) making incorrect assumptions, and c) the fact you have a mind more closed than Pauline Hanson.

Soxy wisped: she waited for me to attack, knowing full well that 2 hermits would disarm me

Souzanne wisped: why did you do it then?

Nevvyn wisped: Right, stoppit now.

Nevvyn wisped: It's getting/going no-where.

Belgarion wisped: Dont attack 2 hermits then? :P

Soxy wisped: so your going to give vy the same hassles you would give someone who helped me

Soxy wisped: and then why was i told to stop following vy by a liason then souzanne

Chowmein wisped: Because it's called harrasment :P

Belgarion wisped: And you arent PK :)

Soxy wisped: why is vy allowed to pick stuff off the ground but i am not allowed to follow to retrive my item?

Souzanne wisped: because you were harrassing her.

Soxy wisped: no its called double standards

Soxy wisped: vy can steal what she wants off me, but i cant return the favour

Souzanne wisped: no it's called post a note on the complaints board and let admin handle it.

Nevvyn wisped: I'm going to ask you all once more, please stop, this discussion is going no-where.

Soxy wisped: again, i ask how many of you cres giving me crap for trying to get my item back have told vy to return it?

Hinge wisped that he plays some over-dramatised organ music.

Soxy wisped: but of course there are no double standards

Souzanne wisped that she hushes

Nevvyn wisped: Please, don't make me ask again. IF anyone wishes to discuss it, they may talk to me directly.

Chowmein wisped: Sure there are. """Gits""" get banished but you're still here.

Soxy wisped: nice to see you stick up for someone who steals fumbled items chow

Thoin wisped: Leave it, Soxy. So Vygotsk is a female dog, but there's nothing you can do about it without breaking the rules, so just leave it. Rest assured that her gittish actions don't go without note in some pk circles.

Soxy wisped: how the hell is getting my own warhammer back breaking the rules

Belgarion wisped: Who would that be then?

Wobin wisped: I believe it's the method of getting back your hammer that's the problem.

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> (Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: Well, let's just she didn't get much profit out of Soxy's warhammer after she replaced the life lost due to her contract ;)

(Playerkillers) Belgarion wisps: Like she's gonna be bothered about a contract

(Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: Not likely, no, but at least she didn't profit much, and had to take a brief trip to the library :)

(Playerkillers) Belgarion wisps: I think you can safely say, the loss of life is nothing compared to the crap Soxy's spurting. I dont think profit was why she did it :)

(Playerkillers) Wobin wisps: Soxy will always spout crap. It's in his nature.

(Playerkillers) vygotsk wisps: I don't plan on selling it, and I would have returned it if he had not started offering money on the talker for my corpse to be stripped bare.

> (Playerkillers) Wobin wisps: hehe, yes, but Soxy even thinking of "asking" for it back instead of "demanding your death" is not natural for him =O)

(Playerkillers) Chowmein wisps: When I just suggested he think of that I got: Soxy In Nice Sox tells you: you may suck upto scum bags, i dont

> (Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: Soxy may be a git, but he's absolutely right about one thing. If an npk did to a pk what she did to him, there wouldn't be a soul on here agreeing that the npk's actions were perfectly fine. 'course, it doesn't help that the victim is Soxy, since

a lot of people are predisposed against him ;P

(Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: Understandably so, I'll admit :)

(Playerkillers) Chowmein wisps: I'm sorry, but one replacable item compared with a corpse full of quest items doesn't cut it.

(Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: No, it doesn't. But Soxy's erroneous handling of this doesn't cancel what Vygotsk did. No, of course what he's trying to do isn't acceptable, but neither is Vygotsk's abusing a pk/npk greyzone to steal from him.

(Playerkillers) Chowmein wisps: And how did you know her intentions weren't to make a smart assed comment and give it back?

(Playerkillers) vygotsk wisps: Which is exactly what they were. %P

(Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: The difference being, there are no absolute rules to cover what she's done, but there are for what he's doing.

(Playerkillers) Belgarion wisps: More than 1 though, *naughy girl* :P

> (Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: So why didn't you then, Vyg?

(Playerkillers) vygotsk wisps: Because he offered 100 royals to the first PK to loot me bare? That's not exactly incentive to be nice.

(Playerkillers) Belgarion wisps: Why did he want you bare anyway? *ponders*

(Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: What, right away, not exchanging a single word with you, not waiting 10 seconds to see if you were giving it back? Or did you decide to hold on to it for a while to bait him first?

(Playerkillers) vygotsk wisps: Dunno, you'd have thought he'd just want my socks or something. *shudder*

(Playerkillers) Belgarion wisps: Maybe he wanted to give you his? Aww, how sweet :P

(Playerkillers) vygotsk wisps: Yes, right away. He didn't say a word to me, he went straight to the apex channel.

(Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: *grin* He puts new meaning to the term hothead ;)

(Playerkillers) vygotsk wisps: You're telling me. %P

(Playerkillers) Thoin wisps: Still, even he might have called if off if you had finally given him the damn thing back.

(Playerkillers) vygotsk wisps: The fact that he did that in the first place was enough to convince me to keep it a while longer.

> (Playerkillers) Chowmein wisps: Sounds perfectly justified to me.