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swedishbricks-digest        Monday, 24 June 1996        Volume 01 : Number 048

In this issue:

	Re: 240 Turbo questions
	Re: 242gt
	1800 in the News
	242 GT 
	850 A/C
	IPD's Sport Exhaust for 850 Turbo?
	Re: 242gt
	Re: swedishbricks-digest V1 #41
	Turbo look, Garrett vs Mitsub

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From: iisiman@mail.nwlink.com (John H. Laughlin)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 01:43:33 -0700
Subject: Re: 240 Turbo questions

iisiman@mail.nwlink.com (John H. Laughlin) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
Close to the oil filter.  If you look at the oil filter, it's to the upper
right (at least on B23/230 engines).
John.
'84 245GL 204K mi, '85 245DL 100K mi (still waiting...)
>
>The sender is right above the alternator, a bit toward the firewall maybe,
>sticking out of the block, quite big.
>I would first check the wires for cracking in the insulation and therefore
>shorting.  Switching to a synthetic usually increases oil leaks.  More oil
>accelerated the deterioration of the wires?  Might be far-fetched.
>Hope this helps,
>
>Balu
>
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>  |        Industrial Engineering student from Hungary         |
>  |            University of Minnesota, Minneapolis            |
>  |  Volvo Enthusiast: '83 245 T 141k mi, '87 745 GLE 191k mi  |
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+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+     John H. Laughlin                  1985 Volvo 245DL wagon  +
+       Mailto: iisiman@mail.nwlink.com 4-spd/OD; Kenwood, Sony,+
+                                       and Rockford Fosgate.   +
+   "Bunch of nuts out there!"          Yakima Rack on top      +
+                                       Macintosh IIsi 5/230    +
+                                       1994 Trek 930 MTB       +
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From: s330903@student.uq.edu.au (Ekim)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 10:36:23 +0000
Subject: Re: 242gt

s330903@student.uq.edu.au (Ekim) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
One point which may be peculiar to Australian Volvos:

The Australian 242GT came out with the larger and better B230E motor about
4 years before any of the other models started using it.

I think the 242GT with B230E were made around 1980 to 1981, and the first
240GLs and GLEs with that motor didn't appear until 1983.



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From: Scott Allard 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 08:36:31 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: 1800 in the News

Scott Allard  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
Howdy all. The latest issue of Grassroots Motorsports (July/Aug) has as 
it's final article "Dial 1-800-VOLVO for a good time". I nice picture of 
Adam Pepper's red '67 1800S hard in a left hander. The text describes the 
parentage of the brick, mods (including a Jacobs ignition?!), and some 
quotes. The last pargraph states that the picture was taken at the 1994 
VCOA meet in Killington and that "If you look real hard, you'll notice 
they run their autocross in the dirt; Volvo people were always a bit 
strange."

Nice job, Adam!

		-	Scott


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From: B 0 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 19:13:35 +-200
Subject: 242 GT 

B 0  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
Timothy Takahashi wrote:
>These are 200 series 2-door sedans with rather interesting appointments.
>First of all,  all were 4-speed plus overdrive cars (M46) with sunroofs.

All 242 GT's that I know of here in Sweden has NO sunroof. Our climate?? :-)

/Jon-Erik



I belive that they had no place for the sparewheel as well. (Both sides).
Instead they had a aircompressor and a spare that you had to fill up with the compressor!
I thougt that the only color was silvermetallic, but maybe this was the swedish market.
I think all the 242 GT:s are going to be rare in the future i wish i had one...


Nice to see Jon-Erik Oberg on the Swedishbricks list.
When are all the Swedish Volvoclubs going to get the same thing as Mr Tim is organizing?

Regards David Skogby 

245  -88
121  -65
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From: rsumner@gnn.com (Randy Sumner)
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 12:58:46
Subject: 850 A/C

rsumner@gnn.com (Randy Sumner) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :

For me, Volvo air conditioning has once again become an oxymoron.  
This '94 854 (27k) is in its third summer.  The first two seasons 
the system performed flawlessly, providing ample cooling under some 
pretty high heat/humidity conditions.

Yesterday I noticed that the system was cycling off for long enough 
periods to permit really warm air to come through the vents.  Today 
the system is still running, but not producing much cool air.  
Compressor is making noise so I'll leave it off until the dealer 
can check it out.

On another note, thanks to the repley (I forgot who) regarding 850 
carpet.  I noticed a "bald spot" in an area not subject to wear.  
Someone on the list had a similar experience and had the carpet 
replaced under warranty.  Mine was as well.  Seems there was a bad 
run of carpet used in some '94's.  The color match is very good - 
even after two years.

Randy Sumner 


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From: "Samuel Walker, Jr" 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 20:47:48 -0400
Subject: IPD's Sport Exhaust for 850 Turbo?

"Samuel Walker, Jr"  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
I will pick up a brand new 850-R from Sweden on September 11th and will 
drive it in Europe for a few days and then ship it back to the USA.  Is 
there a reason (for my wife) that I should buy the IPD Sport Exhaust for 
850 Turbo?  It looks good and will improve performance is good enough 
for me put the practical side of me says to wait until I have to replace 
an exhaust component.  Any thoughts, or suggestions?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
80 days and counting
Samuel Walker, Jr.

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From: Ian Pearce 
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 00:09:45 -0300
Subject: Re: 242gt

Ian Pearce  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
So, they did come in black. I have seen two black GT's here in haifax but 
just thought paint got to them. Neat. And it was 4.10 to 3.91 in '79 
only? I was under the impression that all GT's has higher gears. What 
were normal standard ratio's??

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From: Fred Gallaher 
Date: Sun, 23 Jun 1996 21:51:24 -0700
Subject: Re: swedishbricks-digest V1 #41

Fred Gallaher  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
Parts yard in Sacramento try SWEDEN AUTO WAREHOUSE ((16) 387-6892 They have
both new and used parts at best prices. Both Danny and Ben are very helpful.
I have two Volvo and see them often.

At 03:00 AM 6/19/96 -0400, you wrote:
>
>swedishbricks-digest      Wednesday, 19 June 1996      Volume 01 : Number 041
>
>In this issue:
>
>	Re: Questions about 740 wagon?
>	Re: my 81 245 o/d prob revisited
>
>See the end of the digest for information on subscribing to the swedishbricks
>or swedishbricks-digest mailing lists.
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>From: Toni Arte 
>Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:24:03 +0300
>Subject: Re: Questions about 740 wagon?
>
>Toni Arte  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
>Dave  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
> >   All older Volvo disk brakes squeel. All of my 200's and 700's have
> > squeeled. It is a pain, but normal. My 850 is the only Volvo that I have
> > owned, or been associated with, that does not squeel. There are ways to
> > reduce the squeel; some are effective, some are not. IPD makes a double
> > sided tape that will stick the pad to the brake piston, that will help damp
> > out the vibration. You can also get the rotors turned and a new set of pads,
> > but that doesn't have much effect. Most shops will say that turning the
> > rotors and new pads will ALWAYS work; they don't know Volvos.
>
>	That's strange, since I don't hear any squeeling here. And
>	there's a lot of older 240-series Volvos here in Finland.
>
>	The rear brakes on my '86 740 squeel, but only without
>	anti-squeel shims. The front brakes have never squeeled.
>	I have seen a lot of articles about brake disk turning, but
>	that's not very common here. At least the rear disks are
>	so inexpensive (<$20) it's easier to replace them.
>
>	I don't see why a disk should be turned, unless it is
>	badly grooved or rusty. At least the rear disks on my
>	740 rust easily.
>- --
>Toni
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Tracy K. Westgard" 
>Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 00:27:18 -0600
>Subject: Re: my 81 245 o/d prob revisited
>
>"Tracy K. Westgard"  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET
writes :
>        I did chek the oil, it was low. Could this have caused a non
>recoverable malfunction in the solenoid? Ohhhhh i hope not...the solenoid is
>$250. Too high a price to pay for forgeting to chek it last time i did
>reguler maitencance. When will I learn my lesson??
>
>Tracy
>
>
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>
>End of swedishbricks-digest V1 #41
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>
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From: Anthony.Hyde@anu.edu.au (Anthony Hyde)
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 1996 16:42:12 +1000
Subject: Turbo look, Garrett vs Mitsub

Anthony.Hyde@anu.edu.au (Anthony Hyde) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
Had the chance to visually compare a Garrett TBO3 (AirResearch) turbo
against and a Mitsubishi TD05 (has Volvo name cast on it).  I have wondered
for ages why Volvo changed to Mitsubishi and if it was magically different
to the Garrett.

They are so similar its incredible, nearly the same dimensions everywhere
(inlet outlet length width weight, turbo to manifold attachment, wastegate
config.). It bolted straight onto my spare older style manifold (flat
rectangular), the newer style manifold has a circular locator which
intersects the rectangular flange.  No big problem attaching a Mitsub to
the older manifold, just needs a circular copper ring/gasket of right
thickness to fill in the round diameter on the turbo flange.

One difference was the inlet compressor wheel - the Garrett had the more
high tech looking curved blade geometry where the Mitsubishi had the old
style plain straight blades.

Gossip/chat - apparently the manufacturers found the Garrett style curved
blades tend to 'thrash' the incoming air, creating extra heat and a small
loss of rotational efficiency I presume, while the plain Mitsubishi style
ones are (15% ?) more efficient.

I'm in no hurry now to imagine updating to a Mitsub as a priority, seems
the newer computer control of wastegate etc. is the difference.  Anyone
actually compared the two 'on the road' or got more technical information
especially on the cannister which sits on the outlet of the compressor
side?

Regards to friends,
Anthony.         Anthony.Hyde@anu.edu.au

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Anthony Hyde.            79 242GT, 80 244Turbo
Senior Technical Officer, Surface Physics Group, Dept.of Applied Maths
Research School of Physical Sciences and Engineering
Australian National University, Canberra, ACT, 0200  AUSTRALIA
Ph(Wk) +61-6-2490105 Fax +61-6-2490732 E-mail: Anthony.Hyde@anu.edu.au
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^



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swedishbricks-digest        Monday, 17 June 1996        Volume 01 : Number 036

In this issue:

	Comments on Membership
	Posting Problems....
	OD has gone bye bye
	Re:  OD has gone bye bye
	More Statistics :
	List of Volvo Master Technician's in SE Mass?
	Excessive prices?
	240 warning light
	Re: 850 TDI
	S40/V40 pricing in Sweden?

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From: tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov ((28.8)Timothy Takahashi)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:25:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Comments on Membership

tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov ((28.8)Timothy Takahashi) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :

Comments on Membership.

As of 6/16/96, the Swedishbricks list has the following demographics:

444/445/544  122  1800  140/160 240/260 740/760 940/960  850
- --------------------------------------------------------------
     19       29    37      50    486     176      40     72

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^    ^^      ^^^      ^^^^^^^^^
      The lunatic Phringe   ^^    ^^      ^^^      surprising split!
                            ^^    ^^      more angular, less numerous
                 50 semi-bricks   auspicous number for Intel shareholders


- -tim

- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timothy Takahashi                  EMAIL : tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov
Low Speed Aerodynamics - M/S 247-2 PHONE : 415-604-4976
NASA Ames Research Center          U. Rochester Alum 
Moffett Field, Ca. 94035            & Swedishbrick Enthusiast

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From: tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov ((28.8)Timothy Takahashi)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:28:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Posting Problems....

tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov ((28.8)Timothy Takahashi) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :

Folks... if you need to write to me concerning mail problems,
PLEASE state whether you are on the DIGEST or REGULAR version
of the mailing list. I am working with the sysop at shore.net
to resolve the problems we are having with the "munge" feature
of majordomo.

I fear that the biweekly "how to make easy $$$$" mail spams
may be preferable to an overzealous auto-bouncer.

And, again, please write to me at "tyrant@shore.net"

I'm on travel sporadically next week while trying to get
the 164 ready for the paint booth. So I'm busy.

- -tim
- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timothy Takahashi                  EMAIL : tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov
Low Speed Aerodynamics - M/S 247-2 PHONE : 415-604-4976
NASA Ames Research Center          U. Rochester Alum 
Moffett Field, Ca. 94035            & Swedishbrick Enthusiast

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From: "Tracy K. Westgard" 
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:20:06 -0600
Subject: OD has gone bye bye

"Tracy K. Westgard"  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
I have a 1981 245 with od.
last weekend i went up to the lake using od all the way. No Problems.
After loading we left and once i got upto speed to go into OD, it just
wouldnt go.
The light comes on but it wont engage.
 HELP ME PLEASE.

Tracy.....tracy@broadwaynet.com
Thank you.
PS i wont have a shop manual for another couple days...i couldnt find one,
and had to order it in.


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From: tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov ((28.8)Timothy Takahashi)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:37:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re:  OD has gone bye bye

tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov ((28.8)Timothy Takahashi) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
"Tracy K. Westgard"  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :I have a 1981 245 with od.
>Last weekend I went up to the lake using od all the way. No Problems.
>After loading we left and once i got upto speed to go into OD, it just
>wouldnt go. The light comes on but it wont engage.

I presume you are talking about a stick? If so, chances are high that
the wire running from the relay to the solenoid valve on the overdrive
has broken or fallen off. To engage the overdrive, the solenoid must
be engaged. Second choices are the relay itself (in the center
console) or the solenoid.

Now, most of the Laycock O/D Volvos have the solenoid operated
by a relay... but the M410 in my 164 is rather different. The
steering column mounted lever controls the juice, which then
flows down a wire to a large switch atop the transmission
(which is closed only when 4th gear is selected) and then out
of the switch to the solenoid. Simple! Course the "OD" light
remains on if the OD is selected (but not engaged) in the lower 
gears.

- -tim

- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timothy Takahashi                  EMAIL : tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov
Low Speed Aerodynamics - M/S 247-2 PHONE : 415-604-4976
NASA Ames Research Center          U. Rochester Alum 
Moffett Field, Ca. 94035            & Swedishbrick Enthusiast

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From: tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov ((28.8)Timothy Takahashi)
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 17:49:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: More Statistics :

tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov ((28.8)Timothy Takahashi) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :

More statistics : Model year representation


2000 B.C. ---> 1974 1975-1979 1980-1984 1985-1989 1990-1996
- -------------------------------------------------------------
             135        89       236      244       178

             ^^^  15% of the membership drive pre 1975 cars

                                   ^^^^^^^
                  Median age car is approx. 10 years old
                  (this has remained constant over the last 5 years)

- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Timothy Takahashi                  EMAIL : tim@sr71.arc.nasa.gov
Low Speed Aerodynamics - M/S 247-2 PHONE : 415-604-4976
NASA Ames Research Center          U. Rochester Alum 
Moffett Field, Ca. 94035            & Swedishbrick Enthusiast

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From: Michael Ross 
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 18:00:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: List of Volvo Master Technician's in SE Mass?

Michael Ross  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
I'd be interested in your reviews of various Volvo MT's in the area.  Any 
ideas?  

Please email me privately to quell excessive bandwidth.  TIA.

 - mike ross
   86 744T 275k - Lady Cryss, the Wonder Volvo
   

                                             rossma@netcom.com


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From: isagil 
Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 23:53:45 -0700
Subject: Excessive prices?

isagil  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
Dear All,

I went to a garage to have our 1972 164E checked :(. Diagnosis is a 
faulty pressure regulator and a foul auxiliary sensor. The guy at the 
garage told me these two parts would cost 500$. Isn't that too much?

We called a few dealers and they had the regulator listed at 70$ but 
couldn't find the price of the aux. sensor... So we can't check the 
garage's prices.

Anybody out there who would know if 500 $ is too much? Just an estimate. 
I'd need an answer soon, because the FI is pfft!

Gilles (&isa)

isagil@cam.org

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From: "Balu Vandor"  
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 00:20:12 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: 240 warning light

"Balu Vandor"   via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
Fellow Bricksters,

I just convinced a friend to purchase an almost rust-free '83 245 DL for $1500. 
The car has some quirks, and I need help with the following:

Above a certain RPM, maybe 2000 (no tach), the oil P, alternator, parking brake 
and bulb failure lights come on.  At some higher RPM, maybe 3000, they go off.  
My first guess was bad ground.  I was wondering if anybody had another guess, or
had a similar experience?
We'll get the car tomorrow evening, so I can't look at it till Tuesday.
Thanks in advance,

Balu

                                 _
                               _|_|_
                               (@ @)
   ________________________oooO_(_)_Oooo_______________________
  |                                                            |
  |  Balazs "Balu" Vandor -  balu@me.umn.edu  - (612)362-0604  |
  |        Industrial Engineering student from Hungary         |
  |            University of Minnesota, Minneapolis            |
  |  Volvo Enthusiast: '83 245 T 141k mi, '87 745 GLE 191k mi  |
  |                                Oooo                        |
  |__________________________oooO__(  )________________________|
                             (  )   ) ) 
                             ( (    (_)
                             (_)    
                                    


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From: Toni Arte 
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 09:09:18 +0300
Subject: Re: 850 TDI

Toni Arte  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :

 > sabell@argonet.co.uk (Stuart Bell ) via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
 > David Skogby wrote:
 > 
 > >Today on may way to work i saw a 855 Turbo Diesel Injection, it was a taxi
 > >
 > >and i think Volvo is using it as a test car cause this is the first one i 
 > >have seen. Audi have also a TDI engine and that one is really powerful and
 > >
 > >uses only 0,5 liter/10 kilometers. Petrol is really expensive here in 
 > >Sweden (1 USD/1liters) so i think this engine is going to be really 
 > >popular...
 > >
 > It's been available in the UK since, IIRC, early Spring. Very well reviewed in
 > tests, usually head-to-head against the Audi 100 TDI, because that's the
 > engine which it uses. Conclusions, IIRC, is that the Audi is sligtly
 > 'smoother', and slightly more economical (6 speed box), but the Volvo is more
 > of a driver's car.

	850 TDI has been available in Finland for a while, a couple
	of months, at least. Too bad it's so much more expensive than
	the base model. The other new 96 models are 850 AWD and
	850 low-pressure turbo (200 hp).

	The 850 TDI has 140 hp, the same as 850 10V. I don't
	remember how much it consumes fuel, but two Finns tried
	to far you can drive with just a tankfull of diesel (72
	litres). The started from Helsinki and went to
	Travemunde, Germany by ferry and then they headed to Italy.
	They ran out of diesel in Cattolica, Italy after about 1400
	kilometers. The fuel consumption was less than 4 liters
	per 100 kilometers (that's how we compare fuel economy).
	I don't know about MPG's. Anyway, that's about 850 miles
	per tankfull of diesel.

	Of course they tried to maximize the fuel economy in every
	possible way. On the way back they had to refill once,
	but they also had a chance to drive fast on the autobahns
	in Germany.

	I bet the 850 TDI is going to be very popular here, since
	diesel is so much cheaper than gasoline here (3.60 vs. 5.50
	FIM/liter).
- --
Toni

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From: Jason August 
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:19:37 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: S40/V40 pricing in Sweden?

Jason August  via SWEDISHBRICKS@SHORE.NET writes :
Hi.  Does anyone know the S40/V40 price range in Sweden, including 
licence plates, taxes, etc...?  Thanks!
______________________________________________________________________________
Jason August|jason@cis.wustl.edu| Center for Imaging Science | WashU St. Louis
'93 244 Classic, 27k miles

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