April 17, 1994: Harley Schlanger, Executive Intelligence Review


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Ron Engelman: Our next speaker, is, uh, Harley Schlanger. And, uh, I had Harley on my, radio program, uh, two or three times, during the siege. And we were talking about some outside influences, other than, just the government. Mr. Schlanger is the Southwest bureau chief of the Executive Intelligence Review. He's written a lot of, uh, letters and articles, on matters relating to First Amendment rights, including a series of articles in the national newspaper, New Federalist, on the Waco tragedy. He's co-author of the book, The Ugly Truth About the ADL. Now it's in its fifth printing. Harley Schlanger, ran in the, uh, Democratic party primary for US Senate in Texas, uh, for Phil Gramm's seat, in 1990. He received a quarter-of-a-million votes. He'll speak, here today, on the role of the so-called cult experts in the Waco tragedy. Which will focus on the notorious Cult Awareness Network, and if we've watched any television during, the fifty-one day siege, you saw Mr. Rick Ross. Here now, Harley Schlanger. [applause]

Thank you, Ron. And I'd like to, commend you all for coming here today.

I'd like to take you back, before day one. To give you a sense, of some of the motivation behind the people who ran the operation that ended up with a tragedy here, outside of Waco, Texas. There's a lot of blame that should be placed, correctly, on the FBI, on the ATF, and on the Justice Department, because these agencies have become corrupted. But I want to give you a sense, of who did the corrupting. Because there are individuals, with names, who are responsible, for what happened here, and similar actions throughout the United States.

Let me first take you back to October 6, 1986. In the sleepy town of Leesburg, Virginia, about forty miles outside of Washington, DC. This is in 1986 now. Where an inter-agency task force, of over 400 heavily-armed individuals- with tanks, with helicopters, from the FBI, the ATF, the Secret Service, National Guard, local and state police and sheriff's departments, descended, on a small farm outside of town. The target at that time, was a man named Lyndon LaRouche. The ATF, and the people running that operation, intended to kill him, and burn down the farm, precisely as was done, not too far from where we're meeting today. He survived that day, because he sent a telegram to Ronald Reagan, and said, "If I die, then my blood is on your hands." And because of certain, aspects of Reagan at that time, Reagan called off the troops, the siege was lifted, but the railroad continued until Mr. LaRouche ended up serving five years in prison. On the charge, conspiracy to defraud the Internal Revenue Service. Any of you familiar with those kind of charges?

Now, what was it, that brought 400 troops that day to Leesburg, Virginia? What was it, that made the town of Waco at the center of national attention for four months in the early part of 1993? What we're facing in this country- which is the most dangerous threat to our freedom of all-  is a small collection of entities, who call themselves, cult experts. These are the anti-cult networks. Now I want to take my time today, to brief you on who they are and how they operate. Because if we do not stop them, then what we saw happen in Waco, will be a prelude, to a much larger assault, on anybody, who maintains a belief, that there are issues that are right and wrong. And to anybody, who has a deep religious belief. Those are the people who are being targeted.

Now, the Cult Awareness Network, is known through, as Ron Engelman told you, a man named Rick Ross. Rick Ross was involved in a so-called deprogramming, of a member of the Branch Davidian church. You know what deprogramming is? It's a fancy name for brainwashing. The way in which a so-called professional, carries you- carries out a torture procedure, until the individual victim is forced to recant their beliefs. And then they're put on television and put before the media, to tell their story about how they were a victim of a cult. Now let's take a look first at Rick Ross. The, Rick Ross, the so-called cult expert, you saw him on television. He was paid money by Channel 4 in Dallas, to be their expert, on the cult here outside of Waco. What is Rick Ross' area of expertise? Well, in 1975 Rick Ross was convicted, of a jewel th-, theft. He's a jewel robber! He did a plea bargain and got off. Does that give him expertise, in, in understanding so-called cults?

Rick Ross got caught up with something called the Cult Awareness Network. The Cult Awareness Network was created, in the 1970s, but it goes back before that. The Cult Awareness Network comes out of something called Operation MK-ULTRA. Now if you know your history, in the 1950s, the CIA was doing mind-control experiments. Out in California, in Canada. And they hired a bunch of so-called psychiatrists to find out, how can you break people's beliefs? How can you take someone, and force them to change their identity? They were using drugs; this is when LSD was first being used in the United States. They were using shock therapy, something called sleep therapy, hypnotic therapy. This was all under grant of the Central Intelligence Agency. Two of the key people involved in this were a man named Louis West, and Margaret Singer. You may know the name Margaret Singer, because she was on national television, trying to explain, the so-called cult of the Branch Davidians. These people, think they have a right, to say, what is normal. What is legitimate belief. They think they can tell you, whether you're normal, or a cultist. And they start, from the following simple definition. That anybody who has a deep, profound belief, is, subject to being brainwashed, by an authoritarian personality. Now by that definition, any person who is a good Christian, is potentially considered brainwashed. Especially if you try to convince others that your belief is right. If you try to convince people, there are universal laws. There is a higher morality than the day-to-day hedonistic existence that we have. If you believe that, then you are considered brainwashed, by the Cult Awareness Network.

Now the Cult Awareness Network has hired a number of people. Like Rick Ross. Like a man named Galen Kelly, who was, convicted of kidnapping. And for those of you, who wish to see justice, let me tell you that some of these people are being caught, one at a time, but we need to get out the story on this kidnapping operation. So that the whole operation can be shut down. The Cult Awareness Network does between 500 and fifteen-hundred kidnappings a year. They make between 15,000 and 50,000 dollars, per kidnapping. So if you have a son or a daughter that joins an organization, whether it's a, devoutly religious Christian organization. Or a political party. There's an opportunity, that this Cult Awareness Network will move in, convince the family, that this child has been taken over by a dangerous cult, and make money, by kidnapping the child, and carrying out, traumatic psychological conditioning.

Now one of the founders of the Cult Awareness Network, is a man from the Tavistock Institute in London. Named John Rawlings Reese. He's one of the intellectual founders of this. And he said that what we need in this country, are psychiatric shock troops, to enforce the normal. Again, what do they mean by normal? If you reject the counterculture, the rock-drug-sex counterculture, you're considered abnormal. By this. You can begin to see, why it was that the Branch Davidians were considered a cult. By rejecting this rock-drug-sex counterculture- by starting from the notion that there's a higher morality; that there are universal laws- the members of the Branch Davidians were considered to be abnormal, outside of the mainstream.

Now the unholy trinity here starts with the brainwashers, the Cult Awareness Network. Secondly, the role of the media, and I'm sad to see some of the media running off right now, because we have to hold the media to account! [applause Yo! Yeah!] Who was it, who spread the story, every time you saw the name David Koresh, you saw the word "cult?" Every time you see the name Lyndon LaRouche, you see the word "political extremist," as though it's in the computer. You type in the name and automatically it appears. They're telling everyone in this country what's legitimate to be believed, and what's not right. That is not the role of the media! And we cannot allow the media to pervert, the life, the social daily political public life in this country. Who authorized, the Waco newspaper, to say what's right and what's wrong? Where did they get that story? The main source for the Waco story that triggered this, was the brainwasher Rick Ross. Somebody ought to ask, Mark Masferrer and the other people who wrote the story, and the editors of the Waco paper, why they accepted the lies, of a convicted jewel thief. Who was recently arrested again in Washington state for kidnapping a member of a Christian group. Why they printed his lies. And gave them credibility, when they could have come out here, and interviewed people, who lived right over there, could have interviewed them and asked them what they truly believed.

So the second group of this holy trinity, or unholy trinity, is the media. And then it gets to the third, which is the Justice Department and the corrupt agencies that people have been discussing. Let me just tell you about two of these groups. One is called the Hostage Response Team, and the other is called the Behavioral Science Unit, at Quantico, Virginia, which is an FBI agency. There were three members, from this group, who read two letters from David Koresh. And concluded from those two letters, that Koresh was going to burn down the compound, the home over here, that Koresh was not coming out, that he was suicidal, and that everyone in there would probably die because of this. They write two letters. This is the kind of psychological shock troops we're talking about. This Behavioral Sciences Unit, took it upon itself, to come up with the argument, that this in fact, was a cult that was committed to a Jonestown-style suicide. And so, how did they decide to treat that? By sending in the tanks, as you just heard David Thibodeau describe, very eloquently. That they decided they had the right, to save people from themselves. Those of you who are old enough to remember the Vietnam War may remember, when that lunatic Defense Secretary Robert McNamara once said, "We had to destroy the city to save it." Well that's the mentality we see. Shaped by this, this idea of what's right and what's wrong- what's acceptable and what's not acceptable.

Now, the problem that we have, is that this is what's shaping the thinking of our government and our law enforcement agencies. The Cult Awareness Network worked very closely, with an organization called the Anti-Defamation League. I've been researching the Anti-Defamation League for years. I've written a book that's available over here on the ADL. They think, they have a right, to tell government what's right and what's wrong. In San Francisco, California, they recently discovered that the ADL, was keeping files illegally, police files. Of more than 20,000 individuals and nine-hundred-fifty organizations. That they were spying on organizations. Now about five months ago I heard Oliver "Buck" Revell, the FBI station cheap up, chief up in Dallas, give a talk, on how the FBI uses these kinds of groups. And Revell said, by law, we are no longer allowed, to spy on organizations. Now it's true, by law they're not, but he's lying, they still do. The FBI still does. But Revell said, we encourage groups like the Anti-Defamation League and the Cult Awareness Network, to spy on groups for us, to bring us evidence of potential crimes, then we get involved. This, my friends, is a police state, but one which starts, not at the FBI, not at the White House, although they aren't doing anything about it, and, and they are culpable because of that. But it starts with these private agencies with their own political and religious agenda. Their agenda, is to destroy the notion, that all human beings are created in the image of God. They believe that that is a fraudulent notion. The Anti-Defamation League financed the legal case in 1962, that removed prayer from the schools. This is the kind of group that's connected, with the Scottish-rites Freemasons, in something called the Americans United for Separation of Church and State. The group that's trying to convince, our country, that if you have a belief in God, you should not ever express it to anyone else for risk of being labeled a cultist. And we see what they do, to people they label cultists.

Now the lesson for us, is that if we do not address this problem in this country, then we will see many, many more Wacos. One of the leaders of the Cult Awareness Network in Houston, said in fact, right after the fire here, that there will be many more fires in the months and years ahead, because there are too many of those crazy people running around out there, who refuse to abide by the norms of society. In other words, their norms. It remains to us, the living who are here today, to ensure, in our commemoration here, that these lives were not lost in vain. It remains to us, to ensure that we take our country back, from these individuals, these brainwashers, these so-called psychiatrists, these so-called cult experts. Who think they have a right, to tell you what you can believe, and how you can practice your beliefs.

I have a, a book that I brought with me. (holds up copy of Travesty) Which is a, a, taken from the tapes- the FBI tapes- of one of these kidnappings. The FBI was planning to kidnap a man named Louis DuPont Smith- the heir to the, the DuPont family fortune. They were going to kidnap him because he gave a hundred thousand dollars of his money, to print a book that was written by Lyndon LaRouche. They were planning a kidnapping- they were caught- and they were acquitted, in a trial, by a corrupt judge. As I said, fortunately, that same group was caught a few months later; they kidnapped the wrong girl. They kidnapped someone in Washington, DC, drove her fifteen miles outside of Washington- they rout, rolled her up in a rug, in the back of a van. They pulled up at a hotel, they opened the rug, dumped the girl out, and the mother looked at her and said, that's not my daughter. They drove her back to Washington, all the way threatening to kill her if she said anything. She went to the police, and Galen Kelly, who's the number one kidnapper for the Cult Awareness Network, is now in prison for seven years. But for every conviction of a Galen Kelly, there are people like Rick Ross, wandering around this country, soliciting parents, using the media, to make money, to carry out kidnapping and brainwashing, and to organize law enforcement, to carry out acts such as we saw, in this city. And that's what we have to stop. I encourage you, to get the most information you can, and take it out to everyone, including, the thousands of people who should be here, but are not here. Let's make sure, that the United States, sees an end to this kind of, these kind of practices, in our lifetime. If not, immediately. Thank you very much. [applause]

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