KangMiNCHAN ([info]rose_ddalki) wrote in [info]super_junior,
@ 2007-10-03 11:29:00

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RE: Super Junior China
EDIT:) I don't know if you realise it, but if fans allow one plus member easily, that means LSM will find it much easier to take one out. If we allow any change in members (be it a plus member, even) more change will happen. LSM is like that. He always has been. Also, in case of pitying Henry, we understand and we are sorry too, but to us Super Junior fans the thirteen SJ boys come first.



-will delete the whole post soon. apparently what chinese fans, japanese fans,korean fans think are different from you guys.-


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[info]kaiiser
2007-10-03 07:39 pm (local) (link) Track This
Er. What.

It's not like they're taking anybody out, so why the huge fuss?

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[info]miwuh
2007-10-03 07:43 pm (local) (link) Track This
I feel so sorry for Henry ;o;

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[info]saillant
2007-10-03 07:50 pm (local) (link) Track This
Okay, seriously?

GET OVER IT. This is completely and utterly uncalled for guys, I'm sorry to say. if SM wants to tack on another freaking member, let them. I honestly don't care, as long as they don't kick anyone OUT. God, this is just. Unbelievable.

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[info]guiltyschu
2007-10-03 07:52 pm (local) (link) Track This
Don't get me wrong, I quite like the Super Junior lineup as it is, and would be heartbroken to see anyone removed...but isn't this kind of mean? I mean, wow, way to shoot poor Henry down before giving him a chance! Poor, rejected violinist... ^^;

Before having a fit and signing protests, shouldn't we be waiting for all the facts? The way I read the original article, Henry was the only one being added to the core SuJu group, and the rest of the new members (if indeed, there are even going to be new members, who knows for sure?) would be Super Junior China only. Is that so bad? SuJu was originally intended to be a giant rotational trainee group anyway (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) and though permanent now, what's wrong with the Super Junior name being passed on to new subgroups and trainees, separate to the core Super Junior group (which is my understand of what would be happening from the initial information). Who knows - Super Junior China might even be good. ~_^

I'm not directing this at you specifically, or trying to start wank or anything - I just think that before the fandom gets worked up over all this and starts signing petitions, we should wait for more information.

*throws her two cents in and flees the scene*

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[info]rose_ddalki
2007-10-03 08:08 pm (local) (link) Track This
Yes, that is bad because in the end he will be an official SJ member. LSM has always been like that.

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[info]guiltyschu
2007-10-03 08:19 pm (local) (link) Track This
...but he's talented and probably really lovely. Personally - not seeing the bad side to him joining the SJ lineup. If he is joining. Which we don't even know, this could be a rumour. And either way, it's still mean to say "we don't want him" before he even starts. Which he may not. My point stays the same that we should wait for more information - official information - before jumping up and down and beating our chests in angst.

(This sounds really confrontational, but I promise, it's not meant to be, I'm just stating my opinion.)

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[info]rose_ddalki
2007-10-03 08:29 pm (local) (link) Track This
SM has given official press material on the 2nd Oct and the articles came out this morning. This is not a rumour.

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[info]dalphaengi
2007-10-03 07:52 pm (local) (link) Track This
henry doesn't even speak chinese?! wow....O.o then what's the point of him being in the band? I hear that China is harsh about accepting new acts (My chinese friend told me this but correct me if i'm wrong), isn't this going to make it even harder if he can't even speak the langauge?

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[info]direnwe
2007-10-03 08:15 pm (local) (link) Track This
who cares if henry doesn't speak chinese? if you don't count hankyung, neither do the other members :D

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[info]rose_ddalki
2007-10-03 08:25 pm (local) (link) Track This
Other members have gained popularity already. Henry is almost like borrowing the title "Super Junior"

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[info]fishy_cloud
2007-10-03 08:27 pm (local) (link) Track This
The idea is that they're going to make a whole new band called suju china... If Henry doesn't speak chinese, why would he be in a band devoted to singing in that particular language...?

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[info]spinspiderspin
2007-10-03 08:39 pm (local) (link) Track This
Henry is not even Chinese anyways :)

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[info]direnwe
2007-10-03 07:52 pm (local) (link) Track This
not gonna sign ._.
I was against this when SuJu had 12 members, but in the end it didn't matter. I think SM can add new members if they want, seems like Korean fans are taking this too seriously.
It's not their business to control SuJu in any way, in my opinion this is ridiculous. I'm not trying to offend anyone, just pointing out my opinion.

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[info]rose_ddalki
2007-10-03 08:07 pm (local) (link) Track This
As it's written there, at that time SJ was a project band and it was rather called for. After GyuHyun joined, LSM changed SJ into a formal group. It's a promise, and that promise is broken. Not a big deal for LSM, but it hurts.

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[info]direnwe
2007-10-03 08:13 pm (local) (link) Track This
oh yes I forgot that. But still, even if it is a formal group, SM can take anyone in whenever they want to and I don't think the fans should interfere with that.

It happens with other bands as well, being a formal group doesn't mean new members can't be taken in does it? When they were a project band, there was a risk that they all might eventually be kicked out and replaced.

Did they say they wouldn't take anyone else in when GyuHyun joined? if they didn't say that directly, then they didn't break any promises. I think fans should act if someone would be taken out. But for this, I am definetly on SM's side -_-

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[info]rose_ddalki
2007-10-03 08:23 pm (local) (link) Track This
Well, by promises, do you mean "our fourteenth member is ELF" "Forever Thirteen"? Cause, yes.

Besides, if LSM turns SJ into a project group again (which is what he's doing now) that means LSM is ready to take anyone out, too. Maybe there's a difference in thoughts between Krn ELF + Overseas ELF, but a change in members opens a lot of "possibilities" to LSM.

And as I said, and the text says, GyuHyun is a different case.

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[info]direnwe
2007-10-03 08:31 pm (local) (link) Track This
guyhyun is a different case? how come?

and what the heck is an efl? :D
did Lee Soo Man say that he's changing SuJu into a project group again?
okay, the guy is an ass and someone should shoot him, but I think it will make matters worse if a bunch of Korean fans step on his toes.

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[info]direnwe
2007-10-03 08:31 pm (local) (link) Track This
*ELF. stupid typos -_-

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[info]taylormercury
2007-10-03 08:34 pm (local) (link) Track This
Why exactly is Kyuhyun a different case? Besides the fact that after he joined they became a formal group. Really?

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[info]kiri125
2007-10-03 08:10 pm (local) (link) Track This
Get a life.


Cause Hnery is so bad and mean that you gotta fight against him and write petitions. Did you think about that maybe he doesn't even want to be in Super Junior?!

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[info]rose_ddalki
2007-10-03 08:13 pm (local) (link) Track This
We're not signing against Henry, we're signing against LSM's new plan.

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[info]zeehondpunk
2007-10-03 08:19 pm (local) (link) Track This
Same thing, bb.

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[info]spinspiderspin
2007-10-03 08:13 pm (local) (link) Track This
This is the most pathetic I have seen in a while.

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[info]ohpunch
2007-10-03 08:18 pm (local) (link) DeleteTrack This
lol online petition

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[info]noakun
2007-10-03 08:21 pm (local) (link) Track This
You know, if E.L.F. weren't such a group of RETARDS I'd probably join.

Super Junior China is Super Junior China, not Super Junior, guys. -_-

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[info]rose_ddalki
2007-10-03 08:26 pm (local) (link) Track This
o_o....

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[info]spinspiderspin
2007-10-03 08:32 pm (local) (link) Track This
EXACTLY. And I hope people realise that ehhh Hangeng is the only Chinese person since Henry is Taiwanese? :D? I need to stop commenting to people I know here XD

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[info]noakun
2007-10-03 08:34 pm (local) (link) Track This
LOL IT'S OKAY.<3

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[info]spinspiderspin
2007-10-03 08:36 pm (local) (link) Track This
I don't even know with this fanbase anymore XD;

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[info]noakun
2007-10-03 08:38 pm (local) (link) Track This
I know. -_- So much wankery.

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[info]hope_to_faith
2007-10-03 08:22 pm (local) (link) Track This
ô_o that's....ridiculous...

I feel bad for Henry, if he finds out about this.
and wtf is wrong with the fact he doesn't speak chinese fluently, i also was raised in germany but am mexican and i can't speak spanish fluently, does this make me a less mexican than any other mexican out there?

if they would say "Yay we'll replace Member XY by Henry" then i would totally be on your side, but they don't...so..

calm down =0

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[info]magdalan
2007-10-03 08:23 pm (local) (link) Track This
This is unbelievably ridiculous.

I will pay a mod to delete this.

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[info]spinspiderspin
2007-10-03 08:31 pm (local) (link) Track This
Amen.

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[info]magdalan
2007-10-03 08:38 pm (local) (link) Track This
'ALLELUJAH.

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[info]direnwe
2007-10-03 08:32 pm (local) (link) Track This
I can pay half of the bribe lol

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[info]magdalan
2007-10-03 08:39 pm (local) (link) Track This
Gotcha. Got a first born child to throw in?

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[info]ohpunch
2007-10-03 08:35 pm (local) (link) DeleteTrack This
I will pay them to leave it up because it's a testament to enduring human stupidity and that makes me warm inside

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[info]magdalan
2007-10-03 08:37 pm (local) (link) Track This
That's good, but can I still pay a mod to make an official statement on how stupid it is?

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[info]ohpunch
2007-10-03 08:40 pm (local) (link) DeleteTrack This
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I will pay you to pay them to do that. Because I want it so badly.

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