Subj: Re: Revelation 11:1-3
Date: 98-03-03 04:14:38 EST
From: SERVFATHER
I received a question about last weeks study and wanted to share the answer this week.
The Father gave me so much understanding and knowledge that I felt led to share it with
the group. The question was "How do you know the Lord was talking to the Church and
not just to the "jewish" people?
The reason I know that is because the whole bible is about "the kingdom of God", all
the things that happened to those in the old testament was an example for us in the New
Testament as it is written; 1 cor 10:11.
It doesn't matter what flesh race or religion you are. The word "Jewish" is just a
religion it is not even a race anymore, because most people don't include the 10 tribes that
the Lord sent into the other nations.
I King 11:31 And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the
LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon,
and will give ten tribes to thee: (This was when the tribes of Israel were split, they were
split by the Lord. Read this chapter and you will find out why.)
2 Chr 11:1 And when Rehoboam was come to Jerusalem, he gathered of the house of
Judah and Benjamin an hundred and fourscore thousand chosen men, which were
warriors, to fight against Israel, that he might bring the kingdom again to Rehoboam.
(This is telling you that there is a kingdom of Judah and a kingdom of Israel. When the
Lord split them up, the kingdom of Judah wanted the ten tribes back. Read the chapter
and find out what the Lord said about bringing the two kingdoms back together.)
Hosea 9:17 My God will cast them away, because they did not hearken unto him: and
they shall be wanderers among the nations. (This is telling you what happened to the Ten
tribes, and why the Lord sent them into the "nations" and they don't even know who they
are anymore. So the only part of Israel that knows they are descended from the twelve
children of Israel today, are the descendants of Judah only. Judah is one of Israel's sons.
He had eleven other sons, which make up the tribes of Israel.)
"Jews" are only the children (if they truly are jews in the flesh, there are alot of people
claiming to be "jewish, and they are lying or don't know they are not, as it is written in
Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I
know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue
of Satan) of Judah one of the twelve sons of israel.
We have a second witness in the Word about "jews".Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make
them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I
will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
So we have to understand that the ten tribes that the Lord sent into the "nations", don't
know they belong to the tribes of Israel, they think they are gentiles. You could be apart
of the ten tribes, and you wouldn't know it. (Don't worry about that part.) The thing to
understand is that the old and the new testament is written to all of "the kingdom of God".
The "flesh Israel" made alot of mistakes in the old testament, and unfortunately "spiritual
Israel" is making the same mistakes now. That is what the Lord is concerned with, what
happens spiritually, not to the flesh.
That is why when Jesus was talking about some bad things that happened to the
people in the flesh, he didn't respond about the flesh things, he responded about the
spiritually things, ( It doesn't matter how someone dies, what does matter is "are they
apart of the Kingdom of God?".)
As it is written Luke 13:1 There were present at that season some that told him of the
Galilaeans, whose blood Pilate had mingled with their sacrifices.
2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were
sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things?
Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
4 Or those eighteen, upon whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them, think ye
that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem?
5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Did Jesus say "oh Pilate what an evil man to do that to those poor people"?, no he did
not get involved in politics, and neither should we as christians, it is none of our business,
we are to be concerned with the spiritual things not the flesh things.
Jesus showed us this example for a purpose. Ask yourself if you get involved with
political things, like how bad the president is or what bad things the president has done.
Do you think Jesus would say or do what you do if he were here? The Word tells us
no he wouldn't, then why do you waste your time on things that the Lord doesn't want you
to.
Because you are trying to fix the world. Did Jesus try to fix the World? No he didn't
and neither should you. If you do try to fix the world, then you are doing what Satan
wants and not what the Lord wants.
Satan wants you to do anything that will keep you away from what The Lord really
wants you to do. Think about it.
Let us get back to the point, which is the flesh and the spiritual.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision,
which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the
spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God. (Paul is telling us it
doesn't matter what flesh race you come from, what matters to the Lord, is are you doing
what pleases him or is what your doing getting you praise from "man"? "Fixing the
world", gets you praise from the world, teaching someone where to look in the Word for
an answer to their question, pleases the Lord, because you are impacting that persons
soul. Can you understand the difference?)
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children
of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. (Paul is telling us, it
doesn't matter who you are in the flesh, it matters if you are apart of the "Kingdom of
God".)
Gal 6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor
uncircumcision, but a new creature. (Paul is telling us it doesn't matter to Jesus, if you are
apart of Israel in the flesh or not, what does matter is are you a different person now that
you have become a christian? If you are the same old evil person that you were before
you became a christian, then you are not being led by the Holy Spirit and you are not a
christian. Once you become a christian and the Spirit dwells in you, then The Holy Spirt is
not concerned with flesh things, so you will be doing things that are important to the
spiritual and not the flesh. This does not mean you will be perfect! This does not mean
you will be perfect!! This means that while the Holy Spirit is dwelling within you, he
will be having you do things that concern the spiritual.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,
who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. (If you are concerned with spiritual
things, you will be all set. But if you concern yourself with flesh things, that is when
trouble comes.)
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is
present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
(Paul is telling us that in our flesh there is nothing good, the flesh doesn't want to do good,
the flesh wants to take care of the flesh.)
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man: (Paul is saying the spiritual
man loves to do what the Lord wants )
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and
bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.(Paul is saying there is
two parts to each of us. One is the "memebers" or flesh part. The other is the spiritual
part.)
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
(Paul tells us this wretched flesh body, when am I going to get rid of it.)
25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve
the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin.
Rom 8:5-9
5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are
after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of
God, neither indeed can be.(When your thinking about the flesh and the flesh world, what
you are thinking about is an enemy of God. Because the flesh is evil and God has nothing
to do with evil.)
8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. (If you are in the flesh you
can not please God, plan and simple.)
9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in
you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. (Paul goes onto say, if
you have the Spirit in you, you are not concerned with the flesh.)
If you take control back and start doing things that concern the flesh, then the Holy
Spirit will leave you, until you decide to let The Lord have control over what you do
again, then the Holy Spirit will return and you will be doing what The Lord wants, until
your flesh wants control again.
Let us get back to Israel.
Hosea 1:6 And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him,
Call her name Loruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I
will utterly take them away.
7 But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD
their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by
horsemen. (The Lord is telling us there are two houses, one is the house of Israel and the
other the house of Judah. The house of Judah is the only ones that we see today. That is
why they are called "Jews" or "jewish".
Hosea 1:9 Then said God, Call his name Loammi: for ye are not my people, and I will
not be your God.
10 Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which
cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was
said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of
the living God.
11 Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together,
and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be
the day of Jezreel. (There will come a time when both houses will come back together and
be one. No one knows where and who the ten tribes are. Today they think they are
gentiles. So the Word is written to everyone. The Old and the New testament.
That is why Paul told us what he did in the corinthians
1 Cor 10:1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all
our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that
followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the
wilderness.
6 Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil
things, as they also lusted.
7 Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat
down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
8 Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day
three and twenty thousand.
9 Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of
serpents.
10 Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the
destroyer.
11 Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for
our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.
13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is
faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the
temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
14 Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry.
So spiritual Israel or the "church" is given an example of what not to do by flesh Israel.
In His Service
Hosea 10:8 The high places also of Aven, the sin of Israel, shall be destroyed: the thorn
and the thistle shall come up on their altars; and they shall say to the mountains, Cover us;
and to the hills, Fall on us. ( This verse brings it all together, because people in the old
testament will say it and people in the new testament will say it. They both say it at the
same time.)
