Topic: Am i alone......
msg: 1 of 23
From: jmartzig
Date: Jun/03/03 - 17:58 (GMT)
Am i alone..or is everyone else scared to death too, when you have to open up a maybe
2 or 3 month old 7 page idw, to make changes to it or the iam or both? -Joe
I'm scared to death everytime I open any idw after making changes to an iam... never mind
an old or multi-page one.
ha. so we can both agree that an old AND multi-page would almost be shear terror. -Joe
I avoid multi-page IDW's like the plague-unfortunately. I mainly had problems since I often need to use IPN's for exploded views & have usually many other views besides.
This is after having so many problems not being able to open the IDW later. Lot's of work had to be redone. It has been suggested to me back during 5.3 by Autodesk & VAR to avoid the practice using more than a few sheets. There were some bugs regarding using non standard views, section views etc.
So that's what I do at great inconvenience. Hopefully, there will be a day when we don't have to say prayers & sacrifice small animals to the CAD software gods in order that we can use multi-sheet IDW's
Joe I've done about two dozen or more multi-page (2-5 pages) detail and assembly IDWs over the past two releases (R5 & R6) that are now being worked on in R7. No loss of data, no loss of views. Minor corrections for dimensions that lost an end or balloons that lost their part. No anxiety attacks or apprehension when opening IDWs
I often exceed ten pages in an .idw without too many problems. (Lots of
section views.) This tool was design to handle large assemblies right?
I'm not scared of nothin
As for fear of opening an idw after changing a large assembly, I too share that sentiment.
Message: 10 of 23
From: jiml
I will join this club I too scared thats why solidworks , Iron cad and solid edge are doing some demos for me and giving me a 4 month trail time to find a better cad if autodesk is not going to step up and fix this (Edited) I most do what is better for the company I lost $15,000 in fixing the IDW's for this one job we are doing.
Message: 11 of 23
From: rllthomas
Make sure your dealer rep knows.... complaining here probably wouldn't be as sucessful as getting the sales side of ADSK to realize that these problems amount to real lost business.
Message: 12 of 23
From: jiml
Been there done that
Message: 13 of 23
From: Matt Hendey
To add to my previous thread, I have had no problems since I got my Boxx system (This is not a sales pitch). I did have to fix the existing IDW created on the old machine but no new problems. Multiple sheet IDW's, not a problem. Matt
Message: 14 of 23
From: jiml
I don't have a problem since 5.3 with multy sheets my problem is some views update and some do not and the sales pitch is they will update all views NOT oh don't get me going this is a soft spot
Message: 15 of 23
From: Matt Hendey
I understand! I think this is just as bad as the line scale problem in R7. But, I have a fix for most of the view update problems that I have encountered. I made a Marco that selects Rebuild All 15 times in the assembly. It seams to fix all of my assembly view updates and most of my part updates in the IDW views. I haven't tried using this when I have a stubborn part view yet but I think it would fix that also. I would think that using Rebuild All only once would be enough for any part file, but for some reason it takes about 10 to 15 times in the assembly. I would also mention that as I get less and less projects from R5.3 and earlier, I seam to have less problems. Matt
Message: 16 of 23
From: Matt Hendey
Oh, a thanks to Sean for helping me with that Macro. Matt
Message: 17 of 23
From: jmartzig
Matt, it's cool that you found a fix, but it's still ridiculous that you had to write your own macro.....and 15!! times. ha ha. that cracked me up. and back to my original post....i don't have 'alot' of problems with my idw's at all. it's just that fact that when i DO open (especially an old one), it's like i hit the open button, then run, and come back a few minutes later to see if everything was cool. just scarily unstable. kinda like if you were living with a rabid dog that was your pet - you never know when it's going to turn on you. -Joe
Message: 18 of 23
From: Sean Dotson
"kinda like if you were living with a rabid dog that was your pet - you
never know when it's going to turn on you"
LOL, That's one of the funniest comparisons I have heard...
Inventor = Cujo ?
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Message: 19 of 23
From: jmartzig
ha ha - i shoulda added "angry and nervous" too. -Joe
Message: 20 of 23
From: Matt Hendey
I feel your pain. You know, When I bought Inventor R2 the So******ks rep's still tried to get me to change my mind. They said they had worked for Autodesk and that I would not like the way Autodesk does things. Well, that's all they said but I think I now know what they were trying to say.
Matt
Message: 21 of 23
From: jmartzig
please don't get me wrong, i love IV and think it's great. however (i think walt said it) the program still being buggy because it's 'new' is wearing off real quick. -Joe
Message: 22 of 23
From: Bill Bogan
Jiml,
You should try to make sure the ADSK or your dealer gets your files so they can do something about it.
The biggest difficulty ADSK has is fixing something they cannot duplicate or has not been "officially" reported. This NG is a good place to get help and answers and share experiences, etc. but is certainly not the place to "officially" report defects. just my humble $0.02
Bill Bogan
Message: 23 of 23
From: jiml
They do have them its a 15,968 pc assembly with subs but see all they will do is log the problem and never fix it
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