Beginning: 14.00 o'clock - end: 17.30 o'clock

Present are:

Wolfgang Ketzler - WUSB-Präsident and. Chairman -

Erika Kalscheuer - Germany 1 -

Annegret Splinter - Germany 1 -

Jakob Steiber - Germany 1 -

Taina Nygard - Finland -

Jean Prim - Luxembourg–, judges-candidate,

Pat Muggleton - Scotland -

Maureen Gwilliam - Scotland -

Jan van de Belt - Netherlands -

Yanny Cloo-de Vries - Netherlands -

Maria Küster - Netherlands -

Maija Anestad - Norway -

Gunnar Jensen - Norway -

Roland Hans - Switzerland -

Otakar Vondrus - The Czech republic -

Juhasz Istvánné - Hungaries -

Dr. Miklas Levente - Hungaries -

Horst Vogel - USA -

Excuse are:

Paul Baelen, Joseph van Hummelen, Andre de Groote, Roger Vanhoenacker, Piet Roosenboom, Herma Lautenschläger-Broeckart (B)

Peter Brieskorn, Werner Schmid, Lutz Waßmann, Reinhold Welsch, Hans Wiebauer, D 1,

Hermann Evers, Marianne Ruß, Max Ruß, D 2,

Christiane Lafay, Christian Tessier (F),

Klazien Hekman van the Ham, Gerd van Oyen (NL)

Charles Guenoud, Eduard Gutknecht, Dr. Martin König, Christine Rossier, Christine Wiederkehr (CH)

10 guests are present.

1. Wolfgang Ketzler welcomes all present judges and guests and opens the meeting.

2. The president of the Hungarian club Csaba Gyözö greets the present judges and guests. He gives a short overview over the course of the event. The translation takes on also in this meeting Dr. Miklas Levente. Since a judge is not present without any apology, Roland Hans refused to judge on the next day. Since altogether only 39 Shorthair-dogs are entered, these are all judged in one ring.

As a result, Wolfgang Ketzler tells the meeting the judges-combinations.

3. Minutes the last judges-meeting 2003 in Belgium

Against the minutes of the meeting 2003 in Belgium is raised no objections.

4. Current informations from the member countries are not available.

5. Current stand of the standard-discussion

Rudolf Thomann, president of the Swiss club, tells that the new standard is in force since April 1st, 2004 and is available in the Internet in four languages. He gives a short overview over the taken place alterations.

6. Lecture of Mrs. Istvanné Juhasz:

The anatomy of the Saint Bernards (bone-construction, skull, denture and eyes,

Mrs. Juhasz gives the judges-meeting an overview over the breeding and the development of the St. Bernards in Hungary. She describes the development of the breed in detail and gives the present judges a perfect basis with it to the detailed discussion. In this very active discussion, one goes extensively into the standard and its interpretation. Approximately one hour our breed is discussed in all details and from the view of each judge which is certainly interestingly and informatively for each participant.

Wolfgang Ketzler thanks Istvanné Juhasz for her lecture.

In the connection at it the Hungarian club presents a St. Bernard dog that is appraised and described extensively by all judges.

7. Program-wishes for the next judges-meeting in Spain 2005

Under this item, one talks about the decision of the delegates-meeting to choose a judges chairman through the judges-meeting.

Jakob Steiber suggests that in each case the judges chairman should come from the country, that is organizer of the WUSB, and that he should prepare also the judges-discussion.

The suggestion of Jakob Steiber is received positively by the present.

Since only very few judges are present with the present-day meeting, the meeting is united itself that a decision should be grasped only for one year.

So, Wolfgang Ketzler puts the suggestion of Jakob Steiber to the vote.

Vote: 14 pros

Consequently in Spain 2005 this regulation will come in use for the first time.

At 17.30 o'clock, the president Wolfgang Ketzler closes the judges-meeting and wishes all a beautiful and interesting weekend in Esztergom and the practising judges a good hand.

sgd. Erika Kalscheuer sgd. Wolfgang Ketzler

1. Secretary President