How Kim feels on captivity:
If it weren't for seeing an orca in captivity, I probably never would have gotten the interest in them that I have. That first time of seeing an orca so close is absolutely captivating.  Some people say you can get the same results through books and diagrams, even robotics. I've been to a display of robotic cetaceans, and while it was interesting, I don't really think the random person really got a whole lot out of it. (It was at a mall and most people walking by didn't seem to care.) It's kind of like... you can read about horses, know all about riding, have a trillion pictures of horses - but there's nothing like being on the back of a horse and letting that horse run with you.  I love going to Sea World and just sitting there and watching. It's amazing to see how different each orca is, all their different personalities, and how they interact with one another. But at the same time, it makes me sad to see the bare pools, and so many in such a small space. Every time I go it seems to get smaller and smaller. And it hurts when they get moved, to know that they're taken away from friends and family. I would love to see Keet and Keto get to be with Kalina again, and yet I have the feeling they never will be.

I don't like the idea of any more being captured either, but I don't think they all should be released. Personally, I'm glad Keiko got out of Mexico - he most certainly would have died if nobody intervened - but it makes me sad to think that he's going to be alone now too. Lolita, I think is a good case. She's healthy, her family pod is well known, and I dunno, she just seems like a good idea. Corky, on the other hand, isn't. Even though her family is known, how many family members does she really know? She doesn't know her siblings, her mother's dead, she herself is blind in one eye, and she doesn't have any teeth in her lower jaw. So, in the end I don't know. Shows need to be more educational, yes. Pools need to be more naturalistic. Zoos do this - I've seen some AWESOME exhibits - and yet they don't really do this for cetaceans.  Just something kind of silly. Every time I go to Sea World, I cry a little. It's not sadness, it's not really anything. I think it's just being fortunate enough to be that close to such  an amazing being.

And just a side note. John Ford said that "An aquarium is its own worst enemy, because as children, people fall in love with the orcas, but as they become adults, they want to release them. They say there's nothing more to be learned. And then he says that's fine for the adults to say, but the kids that come along in the next generation aren't growing up with the animals and getting the same experience the previous generation did." And I think he's right about that.

kasatka@whale-web.com
How Vickie feels on captivity:
It's awful. I don't agree with it. These animals are free ranging animals who swim miles and miles and miles each day. They can't do that natually in a tank. Also, there is no need to keep them in captivity no more.. what we've learned is done. We know about them.. It was wanted to prove they aren't KILLERS... it's time to end that. I think that there should be NO MORE captures. They should work on learning HOW to release those in captivity. They are always saying they are sooo smart... now rehab to release... to show how smart... learn about their real famly pods... and release them if possible. QUIT the shows... make it more of a natural look to the tanks.. let them be themselves.... give them MORE to do UNDER THE WATER like in the wild.. At least keep the limit to a bare minimum in a tank... if must be kept. I don't agree with captive borns being released... I hate captivity for all the captures being done in WA state and BC ... then when it ws stopped.. they tried in Alaska...and that was stopped... then they went elsewhere... they couldn't get enough orcas in captivity... for he MONEY they brought in. Science and research in captivity was NOT the main objective.. nor has it EVER BEEN.... researchers came to the people who held them captive... NOT the captors calling the researchers in...

I don't like it.. never have.. never will. Dolphins and whales alike, are all treated wrongfully... in most places. And being told to the public how SMART they are.. yet when it comes time to release... they suddenly become stupid. If only the whales could talk.... what a story they could tell...

DayPod@aol.com
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