Which Slide Projector to get

August 2001

By Praveen Murthy

After years of using an old Argus projector that I got at a Berkeley flea market for 10 bucks (and paid a $270 ticket for parking in an unmarked handicapped zone in the %@&! BART parking lot while I haggled the seller down from the $13 he wanted), I decided to get a good automatic projector in 2000. Being familiar with the Kodak, I eliminated it as I wanted something of better quality. The Leica seemed like the best bet, given the rave reviews it gets, but the model sold in the US is the entry level P150. If you don’t want that (primarily you don’t want it because of the dim 150W bulb it uses), then you have to spring $1500 for the top-of-the-line RT. The reason for going with the Leica is the superb lens and optical path these projectors have. The disadvantage is the fact that they don’t use the round Kodak trays, and instead use the straight European trays, that generally have less capacity since the highest capacity Kodak holds 140 slides versus the highest capacity straight European tray that holds 100 (only for CS-mounted slides, and these are rare, so really it’s 80 slides in the LKM trays). Among the Leica , I narrowed my choices down to the following with the 90/2.5 colorplan lens:

  • P2002 (discontinued)

  • P600 IR

  • RT300 (used, keep trying in ebay)

    In the end, I decided to get a new P600 from NY camera in Germany. Nobody else on the North American continent carried it, and the price of the projector and lens from NY camera was only around $425, which seemed like a great way to have a Leica on the photo shelf. I also ordered a Lowepro classic trekker backpack with the projector, as it was only $110 there as opposed to $160 in the US. I ordered everything in November 2000. While the chap at NY camera (Graham MacLean) was always courteous and helpful, they could not get the P600 till march, at which point they declared that the price was actually 200 DM higher than originally stated. I then decided to go for the P300 IR instead and asked whether it came in 110 V. Another month or two passed before they could find this out accurately, and the answer was NO. Finally, in May, I gave in and decided to get the 220V version and get a transformer here.

    LowePro Classic Trekker backpack. Mine holds the 35mm system minus flash and 300/4 L, and the 4x5 system.

    They shipped it in June, and the package arrived at my doorstep in July. I was about to take it in when the postman tells me that I owe $112 in duty for a package worth about $512 including shipping. The customs had charged 20% straight. I decided to let the postoffice hold the package while I protested the duty amount. The post office warned me that customs was very unresponsive and it might take a long time for the protest to be resolved. However, it got resolved in two weeks, but it took another two weeks for them to actually fax the revised amount to the post office. Finally, in early August 2001, I got the package home. I ended up paying $40 in duty instead of $112.

    I had to spend another $50 to get a 500W transformer to run the beast. I got the transformer locally at Fry’s and it works quite well.

    The projector works well. It's the sharpest and brightest one I have used and am very happy with it. All of my audiences, on first viewing, have oohed and aahed at the sharpness, brilliance, contrast, and color quality of the images. Of-course, these people are not experts in slide projector quality and no nothing of it, except that I never got this reaction from my old projector!

    My only complaint is that it is pretty noisy, especially since some loose piece of plastic or paper seems to be fluttering near the fan inside. Recently, I dismantled the top and found that the loose piece was a reflective tape on the fan side that had come loose. I am not sure why this tape is there on the other side of the lamp to begin with, but I just taped it back securely and the thing is much quieter now.

    All in all, I would say that the whole experience was a "trying" one. NY camera was always courteous and polite, but took inordinately long to find out things like availability or voltage properties. Also, they never adequately explained the difference between CS slide trays and regular ones, and only now do I realize that you need special CS mounts to use the 3 sets of (now useless) CS trays I got. I was too impatient to properly resolve this when placing the order since I was so fed-up of waiting, but it is still my fault for not finding out exactly what it was. The customs people were pleasantly friendly and courteous, not arrogant and rude as I had expected a tax-collecting government bureaucracy to be. Certainly, waiting nine months for a slide projector required a lot of patience.

    The price savings was quite good. B&H sells the 90/2.5 colorplan for $140; I got it for $80. The backpack also only cost about $110 compared to $160 I have seen it selling for here.

    In retrospect, I could have had my projector a month sooner if I had just accepted the package, paid the $112, and gotten a refund via the protest from customs. For some reason, I thought that by not paying up, I would have a better chance although there is no reason on earth for that. The customs is neither connected with the seller, nor the buyer, nor the transporter/conduit. Why do they care whether I keep the package or not.

    P300 IR Features

  • Automatic forward and reverse
  • Autofocus, can tweak/override via remote
  • IR remote for forward/reverse/focus
  • 250 W lamp
  • Standard trays (50 capacity)
  • LKM trays (80 capacity)
  • CS trays (100 capacity)
  • 90/2.5 Colorplan lens, or can use the super colorplan also.
  • Single slide capability
  • Slide preview

    Slide trays and old slide restoration

    The standard and LKM trays are available quite easily in the US. One quibble with the LKM trays is that since the partitions between the slides are thin and flimsy, watch out for warped trays! I got one of these and the projector started sticking. Luckily, it didn’t damage the slide, and I quickly realized that the tray was warped. So before you load up an LKM tray, hold it up and make sure that the slide notches all line up parallel to each other and are not bent or warped.

    The CS trays are a rarity since the slides have to be mounted in the ultra-thin CS mounts. The standard slide mount is 2mm to 3mm thick. CS slides are 1.8mm thick. I tried selling the 3 sets of CS slide trays I got by mistake, but to no avail. However, recently, I brought back a ton of old family slides that my Dad shot in the 60’s and 70’s that are being eaten up by fungus since he’s kept them in India and not paid any special attention to store them in a cool dry place. I have taken on a project to clean these up the best I can (with the PEC 12) and remount them since the fungus in the cardboard mounts will reattack the slides if mounted back in there. So this presents an opportunity to remount slides, and Ta-na, why not use CS slide mounts! So I got me a pack of 300 of these (B&H has ‘em, although you have to find them under slide projection accessories instead of the regular slide mounts area), and will soon be able to make use of the CS trays I already have!

    I have grown to like the straight Leica trays as they can be stacked and stored easily and more compactly.

    The final piece of equipment I have is a Da-lite 5' x 5' projection screen to project the slides onto.


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    Praveen Murthy Photography