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On the USENET newsgroups like rec.photo.equipment.35mm, every month
there is flame war between Canon/Nikon, Nikon/Leica, Canon/Zeiss etc
etc. It is usually started by some newbie asking:
Some Canon fan will reply that Canon has the best technology and blows Nikon away. Then some Nikon fan will point out that the F-5 is one of the fastest autofocus cameras. Someone else will point out that the F-5 costs 3000 dollars. Someone else will say that Canon is all about marketing. Someone else will list all of Canons innovations and this will go on and on till everyone is heartily sick of it. The newbie is meanwhile totally baffled and has learnt nothing. For some reason, comparisons of Nikon/Minolta or Nikon/Pentax or Canon/Pentax etc do not inspire the same slew of flammage that Canon/Nikon ones do. Even more interesting is when someone wants to compare Leica or Zeiss to Canon or Nikon. Anyway, I give on this page, my reasons for choosing the brand I did and I think it pretty much covers the union of all flame wars I have seen on the USENET regarding Canon/Nikon. The fact that there is so much flammage, with no side having a clear majority or better clarity of argument is itself an indication that you cannot go terribly wrong in the long run with whatever you choose.
It is important to emphasize that last point: Good pictures can be taken with almost any brand of camera. The opinions on this page are just that-opinions. If you are like me and want to maximize your bang for the buck, then you might find this page useful, but I repeat, a camera is for the most part a functional device where the real genius lies in the creativity and imagination of the photographer.
Also, note that technological advantages do not last for ever. Right now I would say that Canon still has the lead but Nikon is catching up and perhaps has already caught up in the high-priced pro line with their F-5 and SWM (same as Canon's USM) AF-I lenses. But Nikon is not quite at the point where a cheap Nikkor lens like the 28-70 is going to come with a USM motor.
Firstly, the following applies only to the mid-priced, "amateur" equipment that I use. By "mid-priced", I mean bodies that cost $500 or less. If you have enough money and are deciding between a Nikon F5 and Canon EOS 1n, the criteria and feature comparisons will be quite different.
Note that none of the bodies I talk about below are in production anymore. The 10s has been discontinued, the Elan replaced by the ElanII, the 6006 by N50, and the 8008s by N70. However, it is my opinion that both of the new Nikons, N50 and N70, are inferior to the cameras they replaced. In fact, most people will tell you to get a used 6006 over the N70! Why are they inferior? Well, the N70 lacks DOF-preview, and the 1/250 flash synch among other things. It does have a built-in flash though, unlike the 8008s. The N50 is roughly comparable to the Canon Rebel (although I would take the Rebel over the N50 anyday) even though it costs almost twice as much (Rebel X=$220, N50=$420). Hence, I think the discussion below is still informative, except that Nikon is going to come out looking even worse since even the N70 isn't as good as the 6006 (which in turn was the worst of the lot in the comparison below). On the other hand, the ElanII is a better camera than the Elan in many ways; there is more discussion of this after the comparisons.
I wanted to get into photography in a fairly deep way but not at any professional level. I was all set to get the Nikon 8008s (I had been planning on it since '89 at least) when someone suggested that my obsession with Nikon might be misplaced since Canon made good quality stuff as well. So I looked at the Canon line, and sure enough, found that the EOS 10s and the EOS Elan also fit my needs very well. So it came down to a choice between the 10s, Elan, 8008s, and the 6006 also since the 6006 was priced similar to the 10s and Elan. The table shows all of the features each of these cameras has. I have marked in bold the features that are significant to me.
EOS 10s | EOS Elan | Nikon 6006 | Nikon 8008s | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Built-in Flash | 39.9ft | 12-17m | 43ft | No | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Focus assist light | Yes | Yes | w/SB-* | w/SB-* | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Fastest shutter | 1/4000 | 1/4000 | 1/2000 | 1/8000 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Multiple exposures | upto 9 | upto 9 | No | Yes
Automatic bracketing | +-5 in .5x3 | +-2 in .5x3 | x3/5 | w/back
| Metering modes | Eval./CW/Partial 8.5% | Eval./CW/Partial 6.5% | Matrix/CW/Spot 2.3% | Matrix/CW/Spot 2.3%
| Remote | Infra red | Infra red | cable release | RF/IRbulb
| Mirror lockup | Pseudo, 2 sec | Pseudo, 2 sec | No | No
| Focus zones
| 3 sensors, horizontally arranged, any or all can be used.
Only middle one is sensitive to horizontal and vertical lines
| 1 cross (sensitive to hor. and vert. lines)
| 1 vert. sensitive only | 1 vert. only
| Body weight w/out battery | 20.3oz | 20.4oz | 23.0oz | 23??
| Battery type | C2R5 | C2R5 | DL223A | 4xAA
| Delay timer | 2 or 10 sec | 2 or 10 sec | 2 or 30sec | 2 or 30 sec
| Exposure comp. | +-5 in .5 | +-2 in .5 | +-4 in 1 | +-5 in .333
| Flash synch. speed | 1/125 | 1/125 | 1/125 | 1/250
| Backlit lcd display | No | No | No | Yes
| Interval timer | 1sec-24hrs | No | No | w/back
| Max. frames per sec | 5 | 3 | 2 | 3.3
| Shake warning | Yes | Yes | Yes | No
| "Trap" focus | No | No | No | w/back
| Removable back | No | No | No | Yes
| Leader-out rewind | Yes | No | No but factory can reprogram to do so | No but factory can reprogram to do so
| DOF preview | Yes | Yes | No | Yes
| Battery indicator levels | 4 | 4 | good/bad | good/bad
| Viewfinder coverage | 92% | 90% | 92% | 94%
| Interchangable focusing screens | No | No | No | Yes
| Quietness | Quiet | Extremely quiet | Noisy | Noisy
| Viewfinder info. | Bad | Good | Good | Best(has bar-graph to tell how far away from correct exposure you are in manual mode)
| Price from CWO/B&H in 1993 | $330 | $340 | $400 | $500
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Note that even though the N50 is also "D" capable, it does not use this information for flash exposure, where it is required the most. It uses the information for non-flash exposures, where the advantage is less clear. So the N50 does not really give you any benefit of the "D" technology.
The 8008s has the best coverage. Also, for tilt/shift lenses, it is recommended that you have 100% coverage but I have seen some pros (like Rod Planck) using a 10s with the TS-E lenses.
So there you have it. For my needs, the Elan was the best camera body, and looking at Nikons recent additions-N50 and N70, it still is. Both the N50 and N70 are inferior to the 6006 and 8008s. The 8008s is still the best affordable Nikon AF body around. The N90s is supposed to be very nice but costs more than a grand.
The Elan has been replaced by the ElanII now. It appears to have all of the Elan's features and has, in addition, 3 focus sensors as in the 10s, and eye-controlled focussing in one of the ElanII models. It also has the leader-out rewind, ability to use AA battery packs, and a manual metering scale in the viewfinder. All in all, the only respect in which it is inferior to the present Elan appears to be its 9.5% partial metering instead of the Elans 6.5%.
Lenses are more important than the body since they are what make the image. Here, there is an advantage with going Nikon due to the large number of excellent manual focus lenses on the used market. You can get a very nice 105/2.5 AIS for $160 used for example. With Canon, you are stuck with having to buy the AF lenses and there aren't that many on the used market. Moreover, most of the pros who shoot with Canon equipment are photojournalists or sports photographers; they seem to use mainly the big "L" teles and the fast "L" zooms. So even when you see used stuff, it tends to be this high end stuff which is still expensive. Another advantage of Nikon is that almost all their lenses seem to be better constructed than Canon EF ones, especially compared to the non-L Canons. Now, this doesn't mean that the Canons will break in normal usage or anything (in fact I have hiked with mine all over the world, including Australia, the desert southwest in the USA, India, Alaska, and nothing has happened), but in the long run, for used equipment, it's not clear how they will stand up. The manual focus Nikkors have a great reputation in this regard; even fourth and fifth hand ones tend to perform flawlessly but the verdict is still out on the Canons. Who knows how these electronic wonders will be after they have changed hands half-a-dozen times.
That said, the Canon EF lenses are the fastest and quietest focusing ones around, thanks to USM technology. Optically, they are on par with offerings from other manufacturers although one can expect lens-to-lens differences with some Canons being better and some worse. Below, I only discuss Canon lenses, with comparisons made with Nikon sometimes. This is not because these are the only two manufacturers worth considering; indeed, Sigma and Tokina are supposed to make very good lenses in some of the ranges I mention below but even if they are optically good, they will lack USM technology and USM is a major reason to go Canon. The comparison to Nikon is made for psychological reasons since almost everyone thinks of Nikon as the standard although that honor is not always waranted.
From an amateur point of view, the following lenses are all very good and compare well with the equivalent Nikkors:
Both of the above receive slightly higher ratings than the equivalent Nikkors (28-85AF and 28-70 AF). In addition, the Canon 28-70 II is hailed as a particularly good lens and Chasseur d' Images gave it 4 stars for performance, the only consumer zoom in this range to get such a high rating. Pricewise also, the Canons are lower than the Nikkors by about $50 dollars. Note that I am referring to the mk I version of the 28-80. I don't know what the later versions are like. I have heard anecdotal reports that the 28-80 mk II and 28-80 mk III were not that good, while the 28-80 mk IV (the current version) is good, perhaps at the same level as the 28-80 mk I or 28-105. Note that only the 28-80 mk I has a metal mount, focusing scale; the other versions (II, III, IV) are all plastic mount, no-scales type of lenses, like the cheapest Canon lenses. With my mk I 28-80 USM, 11x14s are quite sharp and nice to look at, and I even have a couple of 16x20s (color) that look very good. More than sharpness, grain is a problem on these at this enlargement (I was using Fujicolor 100).
These lenses are very good at the short end and just ok at the long end,
especially wide open. The Nikon offering in this range, the 75-300AF performs
similarly to the above two. One British Mag (Practical Photography) gave the
Canon 75-300 a better rating actually; the resolution curves were better at
300 for the Canon compared to the Nikon. But the difference is unlikely to
be seen in normal prints or projected slides. However, for the price of the
Nikkor 75-300, you can actually buy the Canon 100-300 5.6 L lens, and this
lens is supposed to be quite a bit better than all of the above at 300,
especially wide open. However, the 100-300L is 5.6 throughout its range
and does not have a USM motor. Also, it is bigger and bulkier than the other
two Canons, which makes it necessary for it to have a tripod mount (which
it doesn't).
I went for the 75-300 since it is slightly faster (you get f/4 from 75-130
and 4.5 till about 190 wheras the 100-300 becomes 5.6 very quickly), and is
slightly cheaper. Optically, the difference between it and the 100-300
is very slight, and some people on the net have even reported that the
75-300 is slightly better. My own unscientific test, where I shot a distant
sign at 300 wide open on both lenses, hand-held at 1/300, and printed a
11x14 BW print showed that the 75-300 resolved silghtly better but the
difference was minimal. However, the 100-300 does have the faster ring-type
USM motor (the 75-300 has the slower micro-USM motor) and is better built in
the sense that it has a focusing scale and focusing ring. One bad thing about
the 75-300 is flare control: it's bad. I don't know how good the other lenses
mentioned above are in this regard. The new 75-300 IS
with image
stabilization is a great boon since you can now handhold at much lower
shutter speeds and still get sharp shots. For example, you can get a
sharp shot at 1/60 sec at 300mm handheld. Optically, the IS is supposed
to be identical to the 75-300 USM.
The Sigma 75-300APO is supposed to be a tiny bit better than both the Canon
(non L xxx-300 lenses) and the Nikon. One person on the net reported that
the Sigma was better than the Canon in the corners at 300. The difference
was slight. The afore-mentioned British Practical Photography also gave
the Sigma the highest marks. Note that with Nikon, there is a manual-focus
AIS 100-300 that might be comparable to the 100-300L Canon. In general, I am
not really comparing against all Nikon lenses ever made, just the current
AF offerings. If you go to Bengt's page off my
bookmarks page, you can find comprehensive listings and evaluations
of all Nikon lenses. As I said, the only real advantage of going with
Nikon IMHO is this much larger choice of glass (if you can live without AF).
Tokina has a 100-300/4 lens out. This lens costs more than the 100-300L
Canon but it isn't clear how it performs. I haven't seen any real
comparisons so far, but I would put it between 1 and 2 below from what
I have heard. The Tamron 200-400/5.6 performs similarly to the 3) lenses
below (from what I have heard over the net).
So the current ranking of xxx-300 lenses would be:
Some other lenses of interest to people on a budget would be:
Nikon has a nifty new lens: 24-120 3.5-5.6. This lens has recevied good
reviews so far, so might be an ideal zoom lens to start out with. Can't really
ask for a better zoom range than this. Canon has no equivalent.
Canon has introduced a 24-85 3.5-4.5 lens, but I haven't
seen detailed tests of this lens to see how it compares to the 28-105,
Canon's current good standard consumer lens. My concern is that the 24-85
is meant for the APS cameras, and hence might have been designed specifically
with a smaller coverage circle. So the edge sharpness and vignetting might
be below average on this lens when used with a 35mm EOS.
The other Canon "L" series lenses all cost >=$1000 mostly and are
probably not of interest here although optically and mechanically they are
amongst the best.
Some other inexpensive (<$600) Canon zooms worth considering are:
You can look at lens tests for all the above lenses
(and more) to get a better idea of their comparitive performances.
1) Canon 100-300 L
2) Sigma 75-300APO (or the newer one; I am not sure whether it is as good
as the older one)
3) Canon 75-300, 100-300, 75-300IS, Nikon 75-300
4) Anything else (Tamron xxx-300, other non-APO Sigma xxx-300s etc)
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