Date: Wed, 12 Mar 1997 From: "Charles I. Staley"Subject: 20-rep deadlifts With respect to the person who injured his back during the 18th rep on a set of deadlifts: Although there is a faction that promotes 20 rep deadlifts and/or squats, I think this practice should be carefully evaluated. Of course, one can acquire an injury doing almost anything, (and for almost any number of reps), nevertheless: 1) With 20 repetitions, you would place the involved musculature under tension for quite a while, depending on the tempo used. With a 5 second tempo, we'd be looking at 100 seconds. My colleague Charles Poliquin suggests that the ideal time under tension for hypertrophy is between 40 and 70 seconds; for maximal strength it is preferrably less than 20 seconds. A brief consideration of energy pathways shows that such a prolonged set has a significant aerobic component. Using these parameters, 20 rep deadlifts would be appropriate for muscular endurance, or (possibly) hypertrophy for lifters who are mostly Type I fiber. For Type II stimulation however, much higher tensions are required. 2) Movements requiring large contribution of stabilizing and neutralizing muscles (such as squatting, deadlifting, cleans, snatches, etc.) may be best employed using short durations--as fatigue sets in, it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain optimal spinal position, knee tracking, head position, etc. Additionally, fatigue may cause breathing technique to deteriorate, which compromises spinal stabilization as well. I think a lot of lifters have mis-identified their objectives -- fatigue is the by-product of training, not the goal! I was consulting to a football player once who wanted to improve his bench press. During a phase where we were performing 10 sets of 3 reps, this athlete constantly complained that he never felt exhausted, or nauseated, never had a pump, etc. However, we raised his bench press by 40 pounds in 16 weeks! So the moral is, "What is the objective?" If you are determined to use high repetition sets, you may be better off using machines, or at least exercises which don't place the spine in such jeopardy. Identify your training objective, then find the most safe and effective ways to achieve those objectives. Charles I. Staley, B.Sc., MSS International Sports Sciences Association Phone: (800) 892-ISSA; E-mail: staley@west.net Please visit "Fundamentals of Strength Training for Sport": www.west.net/~staley/welcome.html