ABBB- AABB Crosses

ABBB - AABB Crosses

Updated: 15 May, 2002 Returning? Jump to Photos

This page presents "quarterbred" seedlings obtained by the "3/8ths-Route", crossing ABBB-type tetraploids with AABB-type amphidiploids. These have the potential for producing offspring of two genetically different types and this must be taken into account in evaluating their seedlings.

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A cross between an an ABBB-type tetraploid and AABB-type amphidiploid can produce both AABB-types (functional halfbreds) and ABBB-types (functional quarterbreds). If you are tempted by these types of crosses (and I certainly am!) you should be aware that many of the progeny will be very difficult to classify within the current criteria.

Theoretically, a set of such seedlings should segregate neatly into two groups -- but real life is a bit more complicated. In practice, I have found that:

Many will look like and breed like halfbreds (OB, RB, or OGB).

Many will look like and breed like quarterbreds (OB-, RB-, or OGB-).

Some will look more like halfbreds but breed more like quarterbreds.

Some will look more like quarterbreds but breed more like halfbreds.

Some will be intermediate in both appearance and breeding behavior.

Although the first two groups are relatively easy to classify, the others provide a significant challenge and the present classification system effectively precludes introduction of those with intermediate traits.

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The first section dates to the period in which I numbered crosses when I lined out the seedlings and seedlings when they were selected to save for further evaluation and possible introduction. The numbers are therefore no indication of the number of crosses made or the number of seedlings produced by each cross.

88-5P: Mohric Art X Heavenly Sunlight. MOHRIC ART is itself from "3/8ths" breeding. Is it a quarterbred or halfbred? At one time, I believed that its relative fertility was evidence that it is a halfbred but from the performance of its offspring I now believe that it is more likely a quarterbred. Go to Sibling Sheet for more details.
	88-5P-1 Introduced as WANNABEE, classifed as an OGB- because of its lack of interest in parenthood.
	88-5P-3 In spite of its stunning appearance, this one has spent years in limbo because it looks like a halfbred but breeds more like a quarterbred.

89-12: Casa Vicente X Joint Venture. One of those ironic cases in which the three best seedlings happened to be lined out adjacently in their first seedling bed. Go to Sibling Sheet for more details.
	89-12-6 Introduced as DON'T BE SHY
	89-12-7 Introduced as SIMPLY LUSCIOUS
	89-12-8 Introduced as AT LAST.

90-11: Mohric Art X Boaz.
	#90-11-3 Introduced as MOHRIC BUTTERFLY

Hybridizing Terminology. You won't find these terms in official classification systems, but will see them in articles written by such well-known hybridizers as Tom Wilkes and John Holden. "A" simply stands for a set of aril chromosomes and "B" for a set of non-aril chromosomes. Fractions were sometimes used to depict the number of sets of aril chromosomes and the total number of sets. An AAB-type triploid might thus be called a "2/3-bred", while "2/4" would indicate a halfbred with two sets of aril chromosomes and two sets of non-aril chromosomes, and "1/2" would stand for a diploid with one set of aril chromosomes and one set of non-aril chromosomes. These terms were once widely used by hybridizers, but fell out of favor after the Aril Society adopted the Modified Chromosome-set Classification System but retained the nomenclature from the older Quantum System. Today, "1/2" usually means a fully fertile halfbred with two sets of aril and two sets of non-aril chromosomes. I have used the old-style hybridizers' terminology here, because it is not possible to accurately determine the correct classification code for seedlings of this type without extensive test crosses.