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From: DartanionY@aol.com

Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: Debate

Moon's Daughter,
I don't mind if you put any of these letters up at all.  For the boundaries part, I meant that there are rules and regulations you had to follow.  Things that you can and can't do.  Another thing, how does your god keep in tough with you?  Does she write things on walls, or spell things out in soup, or what?  When I said that you have no direct objct of belief, I meant that you have no direct proof that your god exists.  You do not know whether or not you god is there.  I don't think you can base a god soley upon the fact that something good happened that day according to your horoscope.  What did you mean when you said that you didn't creat your god any differently from the way I created mine?  I did not creat my God.  I did not do anything to cause the existance of my God.  He is just there.  I can't do anything about that, and if I could I wouldn't.  You can do anything you want to your god.  But what happens when all pagans have their own gods?  There are then too many.  What happens when everyone has their own god?  What happens when to gods fight?
Can two gods fight on their own or is it like Final Fatasy II where you have to command your god on what to do? 
Sincerely,
Ian

P.S.  If you can understand Christianity and the Bible so well, then would you mind clearing up some things for me?  I know that you said that you had such a powerful mind at such a you age (as did I).  I also would like to know how you know and understand all of those religions well enough.  By the way, how old are you?



My Reply

Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:23 PM

*sigh* I'm not sure if you're intentionally misinturpreting what I'm saying or not, so I'll try again. 

For the boundaries part, I meant that there are rules and regulations you had to follow.  Things that you can and can't do. 
Yes, there are.  Though there are no "commandments" as such, there are definate rules that I am expected to follow, and I outlined the basic ones in my first "Re: Debate" letter.
  Another thing, how does your god keep in tough with you?  Does she write things on walls, or spell things out in soup, or what? 
I answered this one too, She (They, actually) speak to me, on occasion, in words, and even face to face. 
When I said that you have no direct objct of belief, I meant that you have no direct proof that your god exists.  You do not know whether or not you god is there.  I don't think you can base a god soley upon the fact that something good happened that day according to your horoscope. 
  I don't. 
I base my belief on what I have seen, what I have felt, and my own experiences.  Horoscopes have nothing to do with it.  Just because there isn't a specific book like your bible, does not make my beliefs, or my gods, any less valid or real.
What did you mean when you said that you didn't creat your god any differently from the way I created mine?  I did not creat my God.  I did not do anything to cause the existance of my God.  He is just there
I never said that you created your god, I said that I didn't create mine, any more than you created yours.  In your own words, I did not create my God.  I did not do anything to cause the existance of my God.  SHe is just there. 
I can't do anything about that, and if I could I wouldn't.  You can do anything you want to your god. 
Why would you think that?  My god is just as real as yours, I command Her, no more than you command yours. 
But what happens when all pagans have their own gods?  There are then too many.  What happens when everyone has their own god? 
I never said that all pagans have their own gods, I said that all have their own ways of worshipping.  There is a distinct difference. 
What happens when to gods fight?  Can two gods fight on their own or is it like Final Fantasy II where you have to command your god on what to do? 
While I do believe that the gods have many human qualities, I don't believe they are that petty, and no, again, I don't command them, any more than you command your god. 
If you can understand Christianity and the Bible so well, then would you mind clearing up some things for me?  I know that you said that you had such a powerful mind at such a young age (as did I).  I also would like to know how you know and understand all of those religions well enough. 
  I have never claimed to understand all religions "so well", all I have claimed is that I know enough to know that they are not right for me.  I don't believe that it is necessary to spend years learning about a single religion to know that it isn't right for you.  I know what I know about Christianity because I was partially raised Christian by my GrandMother 
By the way, how old are you?
Not that I think it matters, but I am 29, soon to be 30. 
Blessings 
Moon's Daughter



Letter

From: DartanionY@aol.com

Date: Sunday, January 03, 1999 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: Debate

Moon's Daughter,
I am still not seeing your belief system clearly.  I still don't understand what boundaries you have.  I have not yet heard the answer to my question, "What happens when to gods fight?"  I would like to know how your god can come and meet you.  Does she just walk right in the door and say, "Hey, what's cookin?  Is that witches brew nomber one, or witches brew number two?"  I still distinctly remember that you claimed to know a lot about religion, especially Christianity.  I also cannot see how you say things about Christianity, know that there are people that believe in it, yet still, in an odd way, try to promote it to other people.  If you were only nine when you read the Bible, I think that you would find that there is a lot more in it that meets the eye.  For example, each Psalm relates to a significant part of each year, but it onyl works with the 19 before each (i.e. Psalm 98 relates to the year 1998, and so on). 
Sincerely,
Ian



My Reply

Date: Monday, January 04, 1999 9:57 AM

I have three things to say in response to your last letter...

first... you keep asking the same questions over and over, and I'm beginning to think you aren't reading my answers.  The first time you asked what happens when gods fight, I replied by saying that I don't believe that they are that petty, I would not have thought I actually needed to say more, but I will, since you obviously didn't understand.  I don't believe they do fight, not the way you mean, I don't believe they are that petty.  As to my "understanding of christianity", once again, I was partially raised in the catholic church by my grandmother, I learned a great deal during that time.  Granted, i didn't learn everything there is to know, but I learned enough, (and continue to learn from people like yourself, that my early impressions weren't mistaken) to know that the system doesn't work for me, and why.  Also, if you'd read my page as throughly as you seem to think you have, you would have noted that I read the bible for the first time when I was 9, I've read it several times since.

second... I would appreciate it if you would stop your attempts to ridicule me and my beliefs with your uneducated cracks about your assumptions.  I have been very patient with your questions, and would like to continue to be so.  I would very much like to end this "conversation" on good terms, and leaving you with a better understanding of something obviously new to you.

third... I am not trying to promote religion, I am trying to promote religious tolerance... big difference.

Sincerely
Moon's Daughter