BAPTISTS SHOULD VOTE!!! BELIEVERS AND BIRTH CONTROL BREAKPOINT ABORTION IN TEXAS FIND TX OFFICIALS Book with Christian Worldview Book showing that Tolkien has a Xian Worldview Beautiful. Black. Presbyterian. Smarter than alloyall. Homosexuality Irish Catholic vs. AIDS		christians engaging culture 'Opinions can differ on whether gay marriage is normative, but it's certainly normal.' --Hugely different things, Michael. My understanding of the ancient Greeks, for instance, is that they thought of homosexual acts as a pleasant distraction. If you'd like to convince me that our society's consideration of calling homosexuality normative by giving it the name marriage is anything less than a radical and dangerous move, you'll have to show me at least one society in history, other than our own, that ever thought of homosexual relationships as marriageable relationships. Drawing from both The Abolition of Man by C. S. Lewis and from The Postmodern Condition by Jean-Francois Lyotard, I would like to point out the following: not only is our society the first in history to consider calling homosexual relationships normative; our society is also the first to reject the norms that are ingrained in the culture of a society. These we rejected for reason, when, like Descartes, we tried to insist that everything have rational proof. The result was the loss of societal norms. The self-destruction of our society is the threatened result of that. 'Right now survivors have none of the benefits that accrue to the survivors of straight spouses.' --Fallacy of relevance. Does not apply to the issue. Sounds suspiciously like the argument from pity. Please stick to the issues. 'God is staying mum on this. We only have the word of various individuals who say they know how he feels.' --Well (besides your ignorance of the polls showing those who agree with my God outnumbering those who agree with you), I'm content appealing to things other than God. Call it humanity. Call it normativity. Call it natural law. Call it the same thing that tells me there is something anti-normative about tossing Jews into ovens because they're Jews or pulling infants apart with forceps because they're inconvenient. Call it this argument: Most of the advocates of homosexual 'marriage' claim to believe in the normativity of marriage. They say the normative marriage is 'two consenting adults.' What natural law told them that? They think it's an irrefutable natural law that marriage has to be 'two consenting adults.' If they insist on everyone being convinced before society defines marriage as something, they shall have to consent to 'three consenting adults', 'two consenting people', and 'two consenting mammals.' If advocates of homosexual 'marriage' do not insist on being able to convince the guys who want to marry human children and adult sheep, then they have no reason to tell me that I'm not right when I claim to have trustworthy knowledge of the same norms to which they have access. They have access to the 'two consenting adults' norm; I have access to that norm also, but I also have access to the 'one adult man, one adult woman' norm. (text slightly expanded; originally from http://www2.techcentralstation.com/1051/feedback.jsp?CID=1051-032905B, click on "What is Normal?") ----------------------------------------------------------------- EXPLANATION This section of the Snipe site's Absolute Truth section (or, the serious section) is designed to help DBU students and the DBU community in general engage culture as Christians are designed to do (we are human, after all). That means: partake of culture, influence culture, etc., etc. JUSTIFICATION The justification for this is theological in nature. Besides I Corinthians 10:30, Ecclesiastes 12:13, Romans 12:1-2, Colossians 3:17, and Colossians 3:23, our own Dr. Naugle teaches that the Christian worldview calls Christians to go into all corners of the world: film, economics, sports, politics, plumbing, music, bricklaying, and about seven thousand more. CURRENT DBU EVENTS This theology is supported and augmented by the DBU community's exploration of the concept that "worship is a lifestyle" by participating in the Worship Renewal Program. Dr. Naugle, Dr. Linam (school provost), Dr. Cook (school president), and Henry Loftin (director of Glowing Heart) are involved in this. This semester the program focuses on a book by an excellent and famous author: Robert Webber. ------------------------------- ( Just for interest's sake: Many of these people are probably Christians; check out a group of pro-life Democrats, a minority in their party, who fight for life against huge odds. Are you one of those people who doesn't know about Republican economics, or doesn't like it, or doesn't care, but you always voted Republican because the odds were the person you're voting for was pro-life? This list of pro-life Democrats running for office this year can help!)